What have we done OT and long.

Anonymous-0

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This site is comprised of people willing to help others. Farmers and the like. Today a semi pulled in to our lot after making a wrong turn and got stuck on the ice. He wasn"t from here. The US I mean and that doesn"t and should not matter here. I called the depot where he was headed to and asked for assistance. I got none and was told not to help in any way. Liability. It seems you can"t even be a good human being anymore without the threat of a lawsuit. This is what happens when you leave governing to lawyers. I know there are some retired or practicing lawyers on this site and I have read and respected their postings. But where does it stop.
 
It won't stop until the country writes a new constitution that will make the people of the country responsible for their own actions.

Our constitution was fine 200+ years ago; now it has been twisted until it is taking the country down the drain.

Kind of ironic that so many people from all over the world want to come here and partake in what we have. Well, we don't have it anymore; we gave it all away since WWII and we are so far in debt that we'll never get out from under.

This country has got to try to look out for itself first and stop the handouts both internally and externally.
 
Old indian says, white man very strange, he come here took the country from the indian and now he is giving it every body else.
 
How is it our Constitution is taking this country down? In my thinking it's not sticking to it that's the problem.
 
My guess is,that would be aiding him. If he was to go down the road and kill somebody and the wrong person found out he had been off the road and disabled and wouldn't have been capable of performing the act that resulted in death,you could be liable for it the way I'm thinking.
 
We don't need a new constitution, we just need to read and follow our current constitution. The founding fathers were willing to sacrifice their all for a "government of the people and by the people and for the people" We have allowed and voted for people that hate this nation and what it once stood for. I don't care which side of the isle, there is corruption in every facet of government today. I am glad that we basicly keep the party arguments out of YT. There are many many good people on this forum and I thank each one of you for all you bring to this forum, in answers to the areas which each asks for help ie. tractors, electrical, machinery etc.
 
I have some close friends that are lawyers, butttt.......they are the only group that could make a 10,000 word document out of the 10 commandments that would not compare to the original!
 
most states good Samaritan law will cover that---lets face it you can be sued for anything but the percent of cases that make it to court, or even a guilty verdict is very very small and if you are guilty lawyers are really lazy and only go after your liability limits.
 
The problem is with this world is that every has learn how to sue. Even where I work I have to be careful with my choice of words and how I treat those around me. I work in the public in cleaning schools. I just can not express my thoughts out load to my fellow workers with out geting some body eles mad around me. So I have learned to be quiet is golden.
 
I worked with a gal years ago that was building a house. Concrete truck got stuck and her husband didn’t want to call a tow truck so he hooked to it with his suburban. Took a bunch of attempts to get it out. Days later his tranny went belly up and he was mad when the concrete company didn’t want to pay for the damages. The driver tried to tell him not to do it.
 
That reminds me of something I did a number of years ago. I was at a Casey's General store and there was a gas tanker there that had just topped of there tanks. The guy could drive just so far trying to get out of there parking lot then spin out. I asked him if I could help and he said heck your truck will not pull me. I told yep my truck will not but the gravel and shovel I have in back will help you. So we threw a bunch of gravel on the ice and of he went and did not spin again
 
Try even getting a thank you from a lot of folks. I got a bunch of hillbilly neighbor's, I've plowed them out, pulled them out of ditches, and they still throw their skoal cans and beer cans on the road. I guess if you drink and drive a lot, it's more important to get the empties out of the truck, than to get the .10C deposit on the cans. The state police were here last weekend, I heard one of the geniuses is making meth. Might as well, none of his family can hold a job?
 
My own idea is, politics discussed here has a lot to do about tractors.
After the continental congress connived, a person asked Benjamin Franklin, vat kind of guverment did you all give us? He told her that ve gave the people a representative republic, if you can keep it.
George Washington said that one day "POLITICS" vil ruin the political structure of our government.
I believe he is right, people are so caught up in the battle over nnalert verses nnalert that they can't see vot "BOTH" parties have done to ruin this great nation that I once knew.
 
Years ago a semi with low boy got hung up in neighbors driveway, I went and got dozer got behind lifted and pushed him over the edge of the road, he never missed a shift, didn't even stop to say thank you, probably thought he would have to pay out of his own pocket. I wasn't gonna ask for money I believe in the golden rule. Things like that happen to me/all of us.
 
Spook, the Stockbridge area has been known in the past as the "Meth Capitol of Michigan". Has that changed?
 
(quoted from post at 14:51:34 03/04/14) Spook, the Stockbridge area has been known in the past as the "Meth Capitol of Michigan". Has that changed?

I think it's all over now. I don't have to worry about some ghetto kid out here in mid Michigan. It's the 20 something that lives in his parents basement, like some kind of monster. Unemployable, uneducated, if he has a vehicle, it's likely a truck. He may have a license. Probably does not have insurance. He might do some scrapping, for party matierals. He will steal anything he can. He probably has at least 1 kid, somewhere. He can't get a job, can't pass the drug test. If he does get one, he will lose it shortly, probably due to attendance or poor performance.

The sad part is, he is just like his "daddy" His ""daddy" is also a idiot, probably a drunk. His "daddy" sits around and talks about "the good old days", when being a drunk was fun. They blame other folks for all their problems. Other folks being anybody who isn't just like "daddy".
 
For one thing it stopped them from killing each other over food, territory ect. Something they did for 10,000 years before that.
 
Son and I pushed a car out of the snow the other day and he darn near ran over son as he sped off. I don't need a thankeekindly.........just same help when I need it, if ever.
 
I think you have it right. As long as you don't charge for your help--your just a good Samaritan. But that doesn't mean they will not try to extract money from you--just highly, highly unlikely to get any.

Frankly I can also see it happening the other way around and the volunteer helper slip and hurt themselves then sue the person they were helping. If I was that truck drier I'd be very careful having a person throwing gravel under my spinning wheels.
 

All you have to do is make up your mind that you are not going to be bullied by a lawyer 100 miles away, and use your brains that God gave you, and do the right thing.
 
Litigeous society to the point that we now take terrorists captured on battlefields to court instead of just doing what we should, "Ready, aim, fire" on the spot.

I heard just today that some 18 year-old girl not living at home, is suing her parents to pay for her college. I understand that she is living with a girlfriend whose father is the attourney representing her. Gives me an idea. If children can stay on their parents until the age of 26 because they are still dependent children, turn her, them over to an orphange, make them wards of the state. If any of my children ever tried such a thing, not only would I disown them, but then I'd take out a restraining order to not get with 1,000 of, or have any contact with me ever again in our lifetimes. Sue your parents? Not for free to me, and sure as h_ll not free to you either.

Mark
 
I"m not a lawyer, but I recently retired from a career that found me dealing with them more than I would have liked too. Having said that, the let-s-sue-'em problem doesn't start with the lawyer. It starts with some knucklehead with dollar signs flashing in their head that goes to a lawyer in the first place. Yes it's the lawyer who takes the matter to court on behalf of the knucklehead, but it isn't the lawyer who drums up the idea. Lawyers who work these cases often take a percentage of whatever the court awards the plaintiff, so they are not inclined to take on a case that seems unlikely to succeed. However there is no shortage of lawyers who will and charge for doing so. The end result however, lies with judges who often render decisions that leaves any sane person scratching their head. The ramifications of those decisions have long since left us with a sterile, stagnant society, wherein we live in fear of being sued. And it's not going to get any better.
 
What manufacturer of makes a transmission in a passenger vehicle that will hold up to pulling a concrete truck out that is stuck?
 
(quoted from post at 11:19:29 03/05/14) I"m not a lawyer, but I recently retired from a career that found me dealing with them more than I would have liked too. Having said that, the let-s-sue-'em problem doesn't start with the lawyer. .......
ou must not have been in an accident lately. My daughter was in an accident 2 years ago where an oncoming vehicle was intending to make a left turn and came over the top of a hill in the wrong lane and hit her head on. In 2 weeks time we received a stack of letters over 2 inches thick of lawyers wanting to represent her. I learned they have computer programs that monitor the accident reports that are published by the state patrol and generates the letters.
 

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