1960s Deutz F4L514/5 Starters and parts availability?

Hello I am new to the club and from southeastern Sask, Trying to find parts for my 57-65 Deutz tractor. Have been looking for sometime have pretty good understanding of the history of these tractors just having a hard time finding parts.
Some other numbers
7908/2874
S1452-00108 NKFE
 
Nielsen's
Brookings, South Dakota
(605)697-7543

Those guys are pretty sharp with rotating electrical. Give em a try.
 
I am no expert and haven't seen everything yet, but I have repaired many Deutz tractors in my shop. Everyone that I have seen use a Bosch starter. I know 06 and newer tractors use the same starters as German built John Deere tractors. My local rebuilder as fixed each for me lately.
 
Ya this is a strange starter to me its 24V and we've had 24 volt on jd 4020 for years and this thing looks completely different
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don't have a pic of starter handy but this is the tractor w Leon FEL[/img]
 


In 1952 the 60 hp Deutz brought strong F4L514/4 on the market. He was the most powerful model in the 514 series. Its 4-cylinder engine has over 5 liters displacement and had to be started with a 24 volt starter. As for the transmission, the ZF A 26 fitted with 5 forward gears and 1 reverse gear. As of 1957 the F4L514/7 has been built up to the increased power of 65 hp was absolutely identical to its predecessor. By the Deutz F4L514 from 1952 to 1965 were approximately 8,000 units were built. These tractors are in the classic car scene today but very popular, since only a few tractor the hard work have survived and still exist today.

The type designation f4 L 514 is composed as follows: F
-> Vehicle Engine
4 -> 4 Cylinder
L -> Air-cooled
engine series 5 -> 5 5 14
-> 14 cm height of the piston

to the F4L514 technical data

F4 L 514 / 4 F4 L 514 / 7
construction period: 1952 to 1957 1957 to 1965
engine
type: F4 L 514
cooling: air air
cylinders: 4
cubic capacity: 5322 or cm³
Capacity: 60 hp at
1650 rpm 65 hp at
1800 rpm
clutch
simple clutch: F&S G280 code F&S G280 code
dual clutch: F&S DO310 / K F&S DO310 / K
transmission
manufacturer: ZF
gears: 5 7 reverse gears
: 2 2
weight
Curb weight: 3050 kg 3040 kg
permissible. Total weight: 4500 kg 4500 kg
dimensions
Length: 3900 mm 3900 mm
width: 1907 mm 1962 mm
height: 1920 mm 1970 mm
front tires
: 6.50 6.50 -20 ASF ASF
rear: 13.00 13.00 -30

Old Deutz engines and numbers.

F2M315 means F=wehicle, 2=2 cylinders, M=watercooled, 3=means generation of engine and 15=150mm stroke. ( Sitting in a 1940 model 28HP tractor.)

Old engines may have a A at front which means that the engine is made for use in a aggregat i.e. generator, compressor, boat.

F3L912 F=wehicle (tractor 4006), 3=cylinder, 9=generation and 120= stroke.

The A was dropped some years ago. All were F in the beginning after that.
They were the same engines if A or F anyway.

F2L511 is F engine, 2 cylinders, L for aircooled, 5 for generation 5 and 11 for 110mm stroke.

In later years it is harder to follow this system.

Some models:

F2M315 as above.

F1M414: Wehicle, (tractor) 1 cylinder, watercooled, generation 5 and 140mm stroke. 1940 model 11HP. (Only one and two cylinder models.)

F3M317: Wehicle, 3 cylinders, watercooled, generation 3 (Deutz injection pump) 170mm stroke. 45HP tractor from 1937)

Then we have F1L514, F2L514, F3L514 and F4L514 which is generation 5 with aircooled engines of 15, 30, 45 and 60 HP buildt in the fifties.

A F6L514 was made in Argentina far into the sixties.

They also made a F1 and F2L612 from around 1953 used in 11 and 22HP tractors. This does not fit in with the much later F2L511. Then the generation number is somehow wrong.

Then around 1960 they renamed the tractors Model D. I.e. D15, D30, D40, D50 and D80. They all had from F1L712, F2L712, F3L712, F4L712 and F6L712 engines, which was in around 1964 replaced with F1L812, F2L812 and further used still in the D models tractor, but also in the first four digit dractors ending with a 5. I.e. 4005. This looked like the D40, only with other name. Then came the 4006 which had F3L912 engine around 1967 and a flat bonnet. This was then replaced with a F3L913. The canges from 612 to 912 was mostly the bore.

The stationary engines had a simmilar system.

A MA711 is a horisontal gasoline engine of late generation with 6 or 8 HP made up until the fifties may be. The diesel model was MAH711. It had a smaller bore and fueltank, but with the same output. Was made for much longer. Until in the seventies may be and also produced in Egypt.

A MA 416 is a sideshaft horisontal engine of around 1930 model at around 6HP. We have 316 and 216 models in Norway. The biggest change is that in the early thirties the flywheels were casted without spokes after a sertain date for safety.

Deutz also made a lot of different engines which is not common. Two stroke, horisontal stationary (CM) models and a lot of others.

Big boat engines A6M528. 6 cylinder, watercooled, generation 5, 280mm stroke. 250HP and 64 litres of displacement. You cold have it for clockwise or counterclockwise or both.
NSK with 65 hp or a NKF with 60 hp.
 

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