The Olympics do we really care??????

JD Seller

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I can remember when the Olympics where a big deal. Remember the old cold war days when there would be the big boards up with the USA and Russia medalist counts. The whole country would be buzzing about what was going on.

Now days it is not even hardly a by line. If there had not been a post about the Winter Olympics earlier I would not have even known they where going on. At least what events where going on.

I also think that the MONEY spent on all the facilities for the Olympics is a real waste.

Plus I would not want any of my children anywhere around the Olympics in Russia. It is just a terrorist attack waiting to happen.
 
I once got excited about the Olympics myself, then I began considering the fact that the Olympics are supposed to be for amateurs, instead of professionals, and one year several of the Russian athletes were members of the Russian army, I got to thinking, seems like that would constitute being professional. Either way, the Russians always won way more medals than the US, and after watching many of the performances, I became convinced that, and I hate to say this, but the US wussed out, just to satisfy the Russians. JMHO, I agree with your statements. I haven't watched in years.
 
I don't really pay it much mind, but then I don't follow sports or celebrities or lifestyles of the rich and snooty either.

I guess if I had a reason to follow the Olympics, like a family member or someone I knew was competing, then I would be more interested.

I do think it is way over hyped. Mega bucks wasted on the dog and pony shows the hosting countries provide. I'm sure a lot of struggling peoples lives are disrupted, even ended because of the clean sweep enforcement tactics used to rid the areas of the "undesirables", as in homeless, addicts, alcoholics, mentally ill, disabled... Load 'em up, get 'em out of sight.
 
Remember all those juiced-up "girls" from socialist East Germany? Some of them looked like Ah-nold in drag.

I still enjoy the summer olympics. Haven't cared much for the winter stuff since Peggy Fleming retired.
 
I agree with about all of the above. Just a corrupt way for some that are running it to get rich. Total waste of time for me. Good to hear that others feel about the same. clint
 
I guess it all depends on whether or not you have a connection to something.

Lauryn Williams graduated from Rochester High School in 2001. In 1998 or 1999 I tutored at that school. In Athens, in 2004 she took a silver medal. In London, she took a gold, both medals in track and field.

In Sochi, she is competing in the bobsled. I can't wait to see how she does.

As far as other sports, I live 25 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh, so, it is easy to get excited when you are surrounded by all kinds of all star athletes. I never got into sports myself, always been a farmer which is a sport in and of itself.


To make my post tractor related: Lynn Swann bought a Gravely 12G or 16G lawn tractor from the Ford New Holland dealership I worked at. It always impressed me that he mowed his own grass instead of hiring someone. Also, Marty Schottenheimer helped my dad and grandfather bale hay, and my dad and grandfather planted corn on his family farm. It's hard not to be a fan of what he did, when you have those connections.
 
Yea, I think the whole Tonya Harding thing several years ago brought so much dilemma to the winter games that many lost interest.
 
No, unless Lindsey Vonn decides to heal up and put her ski's on again. Otherwise not worth the time to watch.
 
Just like millions dont care about what farmers go thru putting food on their table. They think about all have new trucks and mega bucks tractors that gov pays for we are all in this thing together.
 
I could care as much about the Olympics as I do about NASA and I know and am friendly with and astronaut's father. Karen Nyberg is the astronaut. I think both are a big waste of time and money.

Rick
 
I went in to fix some hydralics problems on our forklifts when they were building the Olympic village in Montreal in the 70's. Didn't take much looking around to see all the waste going on there.

I'd rather see all that money being spent to rebuild the infrastucture in any country that you can think of (especially in the U.S.).
 
The 2004 games in Greece was a significant factor in that country's financial crisis. This year's games cost more for Russia to host than all previous winter games combined. Although most folks couldn't care less if the Russian economy tanks, it's likely that a good portion of the 50 billion dollar cost went straight into the pockets of Russian mobsters. Those same nice people who are behind most of the viruses infecting your PC.
 
It is kind of a waste.
My wife turned it on yesterday and I saw for a few minutes a couple of guys doing that snow board thing.....very cool to watch, the flips, wipeouts, riding on a handrail. But.........it makes you think....how much practice goes into this crap? And I was watching Americans do this......Too much time on their hands.....Do these guys have jobs?
Too much Hype on all the olympic crap.
 
While I think the modern big TV money controlled pageantry
is silly....
I wish all the competitors good luck.
From our recent posts of young people
being too lazy to get off the couch.
It's nice to see some with a fierce competitive drive
and the dedication to endless hours of practice.
I'd hire any of them....I know they know how to work.
 
Waste of time and money for some important for others just like tractor collecting,riding horses,football,skiing,mountain climbing,mowing grass,hunting,fishing,old cars,NASCAR,drag racing,listening to Blue Grass Music
and a hundred other things.We all have a hobby or something we do that doesn't add up to making money.So What? All work and no play makes for a really dull person.
 
It's just more games to me.
Rather than complain about the waste, I find the whole thing good for comic relief. The bugging and spying apparently continue on. It wasn't all that far from Sochi, about 70 years ago in Yalta, where the effort was spent on bugging, rather than accommodations.
 
I'm not a sports guy. I used to watch the Olympics though. The reason I used to watch was because most other nations like Russia (USSR), China, etc, had full blown professional competitors while the US had amateurs, like it was supposed to be. Many other nations had people using all sorts of drugs, some of us may remember women from the USSR in the shot put and discus throws that looked a lot like The Rock from pro wrestling body-wise. We took the high road. Then someone decided to field pros, I think it was the basketball "Dream Team" first. That was it for me. Why bother watching pros compete? Now the nations that do actually field amateurs are the on;y interesting ones, and they ain't us.
 
There is a big difference between putzing with an old tractor, doing a little fishing, playing a few holes of golf, hunting, etc and sitting like a bump on a log watching a silly game.
Sports more than anything else I can think of are contributing to the demise of this culture.
 
I had a mild interest back in the day when only amateurs were allowed to compete. Now it's all big money, many pros and often people competing for a certain country who don't even come from that country.
I'd rather watch SpongeBob-Square-pants with my kid then any of this high-dollar Olympic crapola.
 
Its ONLY a game, some love it and spend big bucks to go while others don"t even bother to watch it.

TO EACH THEIR OWN I SAY. Each is entitled to their own opinion to like or hate it and neither is right or wrong or good or evil. If you like it fine if you don"t fine, I wont make you watch it if you don"t criticize me if I don"t lol

WHO REALLY CARES IF SOME LIKE IT OR SOME DONT GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I don"t LOL

John T I"m sort of like the old gentleman in the Jimmy Buffett Song

"Writing his memoirs loosin his hearing, but he dont care what most people say"
 
None of us really know what goes on with all these high profile situations, be it sporting competition, the political world, or whatever else you can add to this category of activity and events that fall into this realm of competition or high profile events. All of it is fed to us, just like the sustenance provided by herdsman to the flock.

I thought that Olympic events represented the hard work by those who are gifted with the ability to achieve goals that many others cannot. Those that dedicate themselves to achieve the objective of meeting the criteria to attain the highest level of competition there is, amongst athletes from around the world, and only arriving at this threshold by the extreme hard work, discipline, leadership, fortitude, and a mentality based on the above with genuine sportsmanship, not money fame or anything similar. If you succeed and you are fortunate to win, you will be exceedingly thankful, gracious and exhibit the utmost respect of your accomplishments, the accomplishments of your competitors, knowing what contributed to the success, as well as realizing the rare but fortunate ability to have won in your event. Injuries, and so many other factors can and do prevent this from happening, you over come all of that, you worked hard for years, you had excellent mentoring and training, you made use of the abilities you were born with, and somehow win, which in these events will open doors in life. All of it stems from hard work, no different than any other hard work that a person may do to become a success in life. If you lose or do not reach the ultimate goals, you still have not lost, you competed at the highest level, you know what hard work is, you know what leadership is, you appreciate the comradery and a fair competition amongst all. You know that even in defeat there is no shame, and that you must always move forward. You know you must help others not only in sporting competition, but across the board in your life, being unselfish, humble, and know that we are all the same, regardless of athletic ability.

If the olympics represented that, then this would be of interest, but like with all the high salary and high dollar sporting events of modern times, have we lost this. Maybe not all but it certainly looks so. Many here have shown a dissent and dislike of any sports. I grew up with it, mother was a physical education teacher, so was a good friends dad and others I knew were coaches, none of those people taught anything but the above, providing character building methodology to the adolescent people who participated in it.

I'll cite a personal favorite, Ice Hockey. I have no use for the NHL and or any of the minor league organizations because of one reason, the propensity to promote violence during the game. Its like the gol darned WWF!!!! These idiots through wild punches at each other or they make checks to seriously hurt or injure the opponent. Thats not competition or even the remotest form of sportsmanship. Its a laughing matter to me, not a one of them even know how to actually fight, they are just a bunch of arm flailers, that would be easily taken down by anyone with a remote ability to practice self defense. It has to be the most ridiculous display of stupidity shown while attempting to compete in what is otherwise one of the most enjoyable and physically demanding games a person can play. I still do with as many friends or local college students (when available) because of 2 reasons, the fair competition and exhibition of skills, and the simple exercise it provides. We have not in years, but did play in in-line skating leagues, (similar to roller skates, but in-line) as ice was not available. Its one of the best ways to get exercise while having a blast, as a matter of a fact, that is really secondary because you are having fun, the health benefits you entirely forget, sure in heck beats a treadmill or stair climber!!! Checking leagues, is ok to a point, keep it fair and competitive, not ruthless, non check leagues are safer, lack of skill is irrelevant, because anyone can do it. You think about mastering your different types of shots, passing accurately, game strategy, goal tending, helping your team mates develop these skills, all the while overcoming each ones unique skating ability. Its low impact aerobic exercise and its more fun than anything I can think of. To me thats competition. Charles M Shulz was a big hockey fan in a similar light, I enjoyed his creation, "Peanuts" immensely as a kid, the world was a better place because of him and he was a sporting fan, his game was Ice Hockey, he built a rink in Petaluma California just for the purpose and he played until the end of his life or good health, he was in his 70's while still playing if I recall correctly.

I will admit I did watch the winter classic the outdoor NHL games recently at Yankee stadium and the other place, it was clean from what I saw, but to be honest, I have no use for the rest, I can go and watch collegiate hockey locally and not have to observe WWF mentality. This game requires a lot of a player, skating is low impact, yes you had best wear a helmet and the proper gear, if you fall, you won't get hurt, its just a lot of fun, and to me thats what sporting is all about, not what we see on television today.
 
almost like to compare them to what the local fairs used to be when some kid had a project and on his own effort showed it and it really wasnt about the trophy it was that you tried .we got a guy not far from me that keeps steers in an air conditioned barn and also we have the guy that tries to calve early and fudge the birth date fence row has a lot of dead calves. what ever happened to kids being kids i never like fairs anymore either
 
(quoted from post at 06:05:04 02/09/14) While I think the modern big TV money controlled pageantry
is silly....
I wish all the competitors good luck.
From our recent posts of young people
being too lazy to get off the couch.
It's nice to see some with a fierce competitive drive
and the dedication to endless hours of practice.
I'd hire any of them....I know they know how to work.


I rather doubt it. A lot of the US team members are being sponsored by someone, a lot of the time their parents. Poor kid with the time to qualify for skiing, snow boarding and such doesn't have the money to stay on the slopes nor to go to the competitions and try outs. So basically you have a bunch of better off young people who are using this stuff as a means of avoiding growing up and getting a real job.

Sorry but that's how I see it.
 
Really? Then you are in a disagreement with a US General in Afghanistan that was interviewed the other day on TV he said playing football was the best preparation for becoming a member of the armed forces he knows of as it teaches the same basic skills.If you've never played organized football then you have no idea the physical and mental condition you need to be a good player.In my opinion Golf has to be the dumbest thing going but hey if someone thinks its for them then go for it.Like I said everyone has their poison,I tractor pulled for years did nothing but cost me $$$ but it was a lot of fun and had a great time to me thats an important part of life and thankfully I live in a country where people are free to pick what they want to do.Also used to go to Honky Tonks and clubs and run with wild women now thats a sport that costs some $$$ and will wear you down and can get you killed buts its a whole lota fun.(LOL)
 
I couldn't care less about them. Huge waste of money and time as far as I am concerned. As long as I don't have to watch it, they can do whatever they want to do.
Richard in NW SC
 
As someone said "Most of my money I spent on wild women and drinking the rest I wasted"(LOL)Not many people when they look back over their lives remember their favorite moments was when they were shoveling manure or spending 12 hrs a day in the cold or hot doing some farm work.Anyway as the old saying goes when someone asked what did a rich man leave behind the answer from the back of the room was "all of it".Think about the favorite people you've know in life and almost all I really liked and looked up to were the ones that had a really flair about them and did something interesting and unusal.
 
Used to watch some. As soon as the PC media quit carrying any viable coverage of the biathalon at any hour a working man could watch, I quit watching. Don't even bother to read the headlines anymore, say nothing of the articles themselves. The figure skating scoring was a joke 30 years ago.
 
JD,
I think your children may be safer around the Olympics in Russia than our nation's capital.

Do you think the Russians have an ACLU that worries about NSA protecting people's civil rights over protecting people from terriorists?

I hope nothing happens. I just think our news media is slanted, has very little of interest to talk about and wants to stir the pot.
 
Having lived through the 2002 Olympics that were hosted here, I can say that Yes, I do care.

Think of it from the athletes perspective...they put their life into becoming the best they can in hopes of competing. Give them some credit.

There is a lot of pride and satisfaction from everyone involved with hosting the games. And, it is all volunteer, something America is good at.

We had the Olypmic torch run right past the house whilst we sat on the fence and cheered. That event in itself would probably change your attitude.

We did go to several events and enjoyed them all, the biathalon probably the best, as we rode a steam train and then horse drawn sleighs to get to the venue.

On the other hand, I think the media coverage is biased towards the US teams who have a chance at a medal. They don't give as broad a coverage of all the sports. As for Bob Costas, they should yank him off the stage for good.
Yes, it is a monumental waste of money, but so are a lot of other things.

Just remember this...It is the only thing left on this planet that brings just about every country together, if only for a few weeks. Priceless !
 
I'm not a big sports nut. I might watch a couple of events. It's just not my thing. The events I'd like to watch either will not have full coverage, or will be shown overnight. Bob Costas likes to casually make political statements instead of simply doing his job and that makes me want to puke.

The last summer Olympics, most of what I watched was in spanish on the "Telemundo" network. They were actually showing events I had some interest in watching, and although I don't know much of the language, the commentators seemed to have some interest in the events they were covering.

(quoted from post at 05:28:38 02/09/14)
...I would not want any of my children anywhere around the Olympics in Russia. It is just a terrorist attack waiting to happen.

Terrorism is nothing new as far as Olympic Games go. The bomb placed by a "Good Christian" that went off in Atlanta in '96 that killed a few people and injured dozens more wasn't all that long ago and the "Munich Massacre" in '72 wasn't all that long before that. I would imagine Jim McKay's "...They're all gone." statement is still remembered by a generation of Olympic television viewers and those who've viewed the highlight reels. Neither of these were "terrorist attacks waiting to happen", yet they still happened.

A terrorist attack can happen just about anywhere and just about at any time, at a major event or not. At least the Russians have had time to prepare for any eventuality to the best of their ability.

AG
 
The Olympics and the World Cup coming up in Brazil both seem like way too much money and resources being put into building big stadiums that are not really what people need in the long term. If we were going to have these big international sporting events at all I would thin it would make a lot more sense to just build a complex for winter and one for summer and keep going back to them instead of building a new one every time.
Zach
 
Bob: I was not really criticizing the Olympics. I was really meaning that they are not as important as they used to be. I think there is just more stuff going on anymore.

Was the World Cup a big event 20-30-40 years ago??? If it was I never heard of it back then.

The whole planet has more people and easier communications than years ago.

I can remember setting on the floor in my Grand Parent's living room watching the events. Cheering for the USA athletes to beat the "Commies" LOL

I also agree that todays announcers should all be fired. They just need to work the event and leave to commentary to the Sunday shows. This is for both political sides.
 
The whole thing has been ruined by politically correct nonsense, much the same way everything else has been. Unfortunately for US taxpayers what really brings just about every country on the planet together is sponging foreign aid and military protection off the US and bad mouthing us afterwards.
 
At least it makes for better viewing than say "The Biggest Looser" or American Idol or any of the other reality shows they put out nowadays. Daughter always liked the figure skating when she was at home. She still doesn't miss any of those events. I don't think she cares so much how they are scored as just watching them perform and maybe that is how it should be watched.
 
Care about the Olympics? Not so much. Being from the Des Moines area, we paid attention when Shawn Johnson and Gabby Douglas won medals in gymnastics. I"ll watch to see how we do in bobsledding because Des Moines native Lolo Jones is on the team.
 
I never keep score with the judges either... I have my own scoring system.


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not sure why some of this thread is so hotly debated... Don't get mad, just admire the "talents."

:wink:
 
Trouble is,everything else on is a rerun. They must figure too much of the viewing audience is watching that stuff. Even Dr Pol was a rerun last night.
 
Oak Island is new tonight, and also is the finale. I can't wait to see what they threw in the swamp earlier in the year so they can pretend to pull it back out now.
 
I don't particularly care for them, about as much as I don't care for people who seem to nothing but complain about how things are in the world, and think it should be run their way. However, I will support the athletes, for them that gold medal is just as important to them as things that are important to other people.
 
Hmmm,
Either you're trying real hard to misinterpret what I say or I need to take some remedial writing classes.
I've got nothing against you personally. Okay?
If it helps to explain my point of view, I don't own a TV. Haven't for most of my adult life. I think about 98% of what is on TV is a waste of a person's mind.
And I happen to think that too much WATCHING sports is the most destructive thing ever to happen to our republic.
But if you really want to know where I'm coming from just go back and read what I've posted here about sports over the last 10 years.
 

Then you would be the wrong one to ask, "Ginger or Mary Ann?"


The correct answer is Mary Ann.
 
(quoted from post at 12:12:08 02/09/14) Bob: I was not really criticizing the Olympics. I was really meaning that they are not as important as they used to be

Not as important to who? YOU? I bet they are just as important to the athletics today as they were to the athletics 40 years ago.
 
All I've heard about the olympics is the one snowboarding course is going to kill someone, foreign athletes are getting locked in their bathrooms, and elevator doors are opening with no elevator on the other side waiting for someone to step onto.

It was something when I was a kid. Now they have it every two years instead of 4, and it's, well, blah.
 
(quoted from post at 07:16:08 02/09/14) Really? Then you are in a disagreement with a US General in Afghanistan that was interviewed the other day on TV he said playing football was the best preparation for becoming a member of the armed forces he knows of as it teaches the same basic skills.

And the General was likely a sports hero type at West Point. Sports fans ALWAYS say sports does this and that. I don't see it. I played sports and I was a Marine. Other than getting in shape for boot camp, sports does little if anything to prepare for the military.
 
I'm not a huge sports fan but I sometimes watch playoff games as I enjoy watching people that excel at what they do. I can't say I'd ever watch any of the Olympic sports individually, but I do enjoy watching the Olympics.

In the old days the American Olympians were amateurs while many of the communist country's Olympians were in the military where their job was to be excellent athletes. Now they allow professionals and it has leveled the playing field somewhat for the US.

Most everyone I've talked to with the exception of a few seniors have talked about the Olympics. Judging by the responses on this forum about the Olympics and other sports, I'd say sports are a low priority for farmers. If you expand the group of people you associate with I think you'll find there is interest in the Olympics. I also suspect there are people that aren't watching, or at least not admitting to watching this Olympics because it's in Russia.

A day doesn't go by that I don't get on this forum and read about some kind of waste. So Russia spent massive amounts of money on the facilities. Some of that will be offset by the income the Olympics bring in. Then those facilities will be used for many years to come. I'm not a fan of government spending, especially wasteful spending, but if they are going to spend money I'd rather see it spent on something positive like the Olympics rather than something destructive like the cash for clunkers program we had in this country a few years ago where our government paid to destroy assets. In some (maybe many) cases,the assets (cars) got destroyed and the government didn't fulfill their obligation of paying for them, but that's another topic.

As far as Costas, I can't stand him. That goes back to his failed late night talk show that had a very political slant.

Some say the Olympic athletes lead a privileged lifestyle. That may be true to a degree but their training programs can be brutal.
 

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