Old wives tales

Royse

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I was out moving some snow this morning (seems like I do a lot of
that this year) and when I came in I was hot and sweating.
I took off my stocking cap and immediately felt much cooler.

It made me think of the old saying that you lose 70% of your body
heat through your head, which the "experts" now say is just an old
wife's tale.

It makes me think those "old wives" may know more than our experts!
What old wives tales do you believe over the experts?
 
From CBS news:
Chicken Soup Really Is Good for a Cold



B O S T O N, Oct. 17

By Melissa Schorr

Grandma was right, after all: Chicken soup is good for the cold, not just the soul.

Using an in-depth laboratory analysis of old-fashioned chicken soup, a team of medical researchers explored the science behind the broth’s reputation as salvation for the sniffly.

Dr. Stephen Rennard, a pulmonary expert at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, found evidence the soup contains anti-inflammatory properties that may help prevent a cold’s miserable side effects.

“My wife’s grandmother says that chicken soup is good for colds,” explains Rennard, whose findings were published in the current issue of Chest, the journal of the American College of Chest Physicians. “Just because your grandma said something doesn’t mean that it’s not true.”

Used in Ancient Times The idea that chicken soup, often dubbed the “Jewish penicillin,” has medicinal effects dates back to ancient times, but modern scientists have never fully deciphered the reasons.

Some doctors believe that the soup’s benefits are mainly psychosomatic, that it’s the ultimate comfort food. Others say the steaming hot soup clears congestion and provides the body with necessary hydration to flush out viral bugs.

Researchers believe colds are caused by viral infections in the upper respiratory tract. The body responds with inflammation, which triggers white blood cells to migrate to the area.

These bacteria-devouring cells, however, have little ability to kill off a virus, and as a side effect, stimulate the production of mucous, which may cause the traditional cold season symptoms of stuffy heads, coughs and sneezing.

In the lab, Rennard tested the ability of those white blood cells to migrate from one side of a chamber across a filter to the other side, as they normally do. In the presence of the chicken soup, however, he noted that fewer cells migrated to the other side of the chamber.

His theory is that some ingredient in the soup blocks or slows the amount of cells congregating in the lung area, possibly relieving the development of these cold symptoms.

Biological Basis Unclear

Rennard tested a family recipe passed down from his wife’s Lithuanian grandmother that contained chicken, onions, sweet potatoes, parsnips, turnips, carrots, celery, parsley, salt and pepper.

The white blood cells migrated less often in the presence of each of the tasty ingredients. But it remains unclear what chemical compound within the ingredients prevented their motion.

“The biologically active material is unknown,” Rennard admits. “It may be that some complex chemistry takes place, that the entire concoction makes it work.”

If you’re feeling too sick to get out of bed and cook, take heart: Rennard also examined 13 brands of canned chicken soups and found many may work even better than homemade.

They included Knorr’s chicken noodle, Campbell’s Home Cookin’ chicken vegetable, Campbell’s Healthy Request chicken noodle, Lipton Cup-o-soup chicken noodle and Progresso chicken noodle.

“You hate it when your grandma’s soup doesn’t come in first,” Rennard says, “but in our house, in terms of which one taste best, grandma’s soup wins hands down.”
 
For every foggy day in fall ,there will be a dump of snow in winter. It did seem awfully foggy this past fall. .LOL
Martin
 
Depends on what the experts are experts in. In some cases,I'd believe anybody's old wife before I'd believe them.
 
a man asked an indian what kind of winter it
would be he said cold long and lots of snow.
well how do you know insects animals moon
sign what. . indian replyed white man has big
wood pile
 
A quickly married "virgin" brides first child is often a couple months pre-mature, birth can come in 6 months after wedding. Baby may weigh 7 to 10 pounds- but it was fast gestation premature birth.
Under English common law, a posthumus baby- born after fathers death- is a legitimate child inheiriting fathers titles, rights and responsibilities-- and others sworn alliegience-- a year after fathers death. Re: Stuart succession of Plantagenant line as kings/queens. The alternative to this legal decision was 3 to 5 claiments to the throne with each having some claim and large number of armed supporters, lack of trust of each other but enough brains to figure they couldn"t win right away if it came to a fight as individuals. BUT , if the child was the legal heir and the fairly smart queen was a coregent along with the bodyguard steward of castle(a Scots nobleman Stuart) and couple of strongest claiments were subregents of admiralty and army, another as minister of excheckour/treasurer a civil war would be avoided for a few years and the claiments could maybe survive or do some low casualty count knife in the back politics. Pragmatic legal decision V scientist accepted knowledge-pick the best decision for survival, the old wives didn"t get old by being dumb.
 
My mother was full of them. Here are her favorites we had to abide by:

If you swallow a fish bone you have to eat a balled up piece of white bread (it supposedly encases the bone).

If you sleep with a fan blowing on you you will get arthritis.

If you ride your bike in the heat you will get polio.

If you drink warm water you will throw up.
 
Here's a couple of wive's tales that some believe
(not me):

It's ALWAYS colder just before the dawn.
ALL cats that are ALL white are deaf.
Throwing rice at a wedding will kill birds.
 
My dad always preached this so later on when I went into electronics service I researched it. Before WW II battery cases were generally made of rubber. Rubber has enough conductivity that batteries grounded to concrete will discharge. Since the change to plastic battery cases this problem has been eliminated.
 
"It is too cold to snow."

Hmm....

My reply to that one: Then where did all that white stuff at the North and South poles come from?

Another, somewhat revolting one: Sitting on a cold rock or cold steel will pull down your piles (hemorrhoids).

Don't know about that last one. Sat on a lot of cold tractor seats and cold slabs of limestone when I was younger and still don't have piles.
 
I'm automatically skeptical whenever I see or hear the word "expert" applied to someone.
 
Colder at Dawn. True I record the weather daily. And we also have weather unit near by that records hourly. Most of the time mine drops one or two degrees 6:30-7:00am, but Wed morning it was 24°F at 6:30am had been all night. At 7:00am it dropped to 19°F and with in a few minute it started back up.
 
I was told the same thing by a sweet single college girl who stocks shelves at Wal-Mart on weekends. She claims that the Great Value brand is just as effective as Campbells. She also told me that her mom who is a nurse who works in the OB doctor's office said that an apple a day does not always keep the doctor away.
 
Do you know where a lot of chickens come from that is used in chicken soup you buy at the store?? Years ago I worked in a egg farm sort of and there birds when they got to old to lay went to Campbell's for there chicken soup
 
An "EX is a has been, and the "SPERT" is is a little PI---S of water. Now my friends grand mother when I was a kid told us not to let elctrissy out of sockets!!! Ifin yiu didn't have something plugged in,, she would put those little plastic child covers in the holes! Kept her elctrissy bill low!
 
Common misconception. Technically - since heat from the sun travels slower than the light - it would be colder AFTER the dawn. But besides that, just because it is dark, doesn't mean it is COLD. Wind currents, wind SHIFTS, warm fronts, cold fronts, etc, have a lot to do with temperature.
To say it is "Always coldest just before the dawn", is a fallacy.
We've had several days this winter where it was 36°- 37° at sunrise, but the temps fell durring the day into the teens. Also there were several days where the low temps occurred at 1:00 am, then the temperature rose 10-15 degrees before dawn.
 
Well yeah- that is a given- they aren"t going to cut up young broilers and fryers for soup. 1 1/2-2 years of laying eggs, it"s down the road to the soup factory. Put enough salt in to preserve the old codgers, and they taste......wait for it!.....just like CHICKEN!!
 
Vell ju neffer no, sum dim expert iss purty smart.

Budt,
Vy ist der so mini more horzez azzez dan der iz horzez?
 
Old hens, isn't that the traditional source of chicken for chicken noodle soup anyway? Or for chicken and dumplings?

I bought Campbell's Healthy Request Chicken Noodle soup once. Even adding salt it had no taste. And I do eat a fair amount of Campbell's soup, just not the Healthy Request.
 

I don't think you'd lose 70% of your body heat through your head,closer to 30%.My father always said "if your feet are cold put your hat on".
 
For me I would say its more like 80%. I have a 5 inch round plastic plate in my head and when its cold out I cant stand it for long (No insulation value in plastic). If I am going to be out for long I put one of those hand warmer packs inside my winter cap and makes it much better. Doc says good idea and it sure cuts down on getting brain freeze! Bandit
 
the heat you actually lose through your head is
very dependent upon how active you are.

If you're very active and the blood's pumping hard
- yes you will lose a lot of heat out of an
unprotected head.

... of course - you're also generating a lot more
heat from the work, so it's not like you don't
want to lose it. Very important not to let a
brain overheat!

That's why the 70% number is misleading. Of the
heat you do lose - yes 70% of it can come from an
uncoverd head. But what the old wives leave out the part that your body is trying to lose the heat. If you're sweating, your body is trying to cool your brain.



But just standing still, no you don't lose all
THAT much heat through your head.
 
(quoted from post at 00:13:07 02/09/14) Old hens, isn't that the traditional source of chicken for chicken noodle soup anyway? Or for chicken and dumplings?

I bought Campbell's Healthy Request Chicken Noodle soup once. Even adding salt it had no taste. And I do eat a fair amount of Campbell's soup, just not the Healthy Request.
here ain't a smidgen of chicken to be found in Campbell chicken soup.
I think they just wave a dead chicken over the cooking pot and call it "chicken" soup.;)
 

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