One of those nights!

Deere Scotty · Feb 2, 2014

Was moving snow, & ice with a JD 3055. Tractor began missing out. Shut it off right where it was, about 1/4 mile from the barn. It was almost dark. Figured water in the fuel filter. Put my fingers around the bleed screw to get an idea of the size wrench I needed; same size as the drain screw. I felt it wiggle which shouldn't happen. Put an adjustable wrench on it, & in less than an 1/8 of a full turn it broke right off. Another fun day tomorrow trying to get the remains of the screw out on a steep icy slope out in the elements... Ever wish You went back to the barn first? I do right now! I bet the screw cracked letting air get in. JD dealer changed the filter last which means they screwed it in too tight; Is my guess.

Bob · Feb 2, 2014

WHY would you suspect "water in the fuel?

What's the REST of the story?

Are you having trouble with bad fuel from a supplier?

Careless handling of fuel by the tractor's owner/operator? If that's the care, the learning curve to never letting that happen again should be a short one!

T in NE · Feb 2, 2014

When it's down near 0 outside and your engine starts acting up a fuel issue would be the first place to look.

JD Seller · Feb 2, 2014

Bob I have got zero to below zero today here in Iowa. A drop of water in the wrong place can bring you to a screeching halt. Even the best fuel handling can still get small amounts of water/junk in the fuel that the filter would normally handle with no issue but make it this cold and you have trouble.

Bob · Feb 2, 2014

I'm not a stranger to cold weather. I keep my fuel clean/dry and run a tank of E-10 through or add some "HEET" every now and then, and would be VERY surprised to have one of my gas tractors or a vehicle shut down from a "water in gas" issue.

On the other side of the coin, I have done repair work all my life and have dealt with all sorts of water (in QUANTITY) that people seem to mange to get in their fuel tanks!

PREVENTING the problem is easier than dealing with it after the fact!

Deere Scotty · Feb 3, 2014

Swinging Temperatures up, & down create condensation which translates to water in the fuel. Take machine out of a temperature controlled barn, or garage, when its 60 inside, & zero outside, without the fuel tank being full, & everything is in place for water to form in a tank. That's why they put a drain plug on the fuel filter mounting bracket on the tractor. It has happened to me before in cold weather. I don't keep fuel inside the building; which can also cause water, mixing cold fuel with room temperature fuel.

showcrop · Feb 3, 2014

(quoted from post at 22:56:58 02/02/14) I'm not a stranger to cold weather. I keep my fuel clean/dry and run a tank of E-10 through or add some "HEET" every now and then, and would be VERY surprised to have one of my gas tractors or a vehicle shut down from a "water in gas" issue.

On the other side of the coin, I have done repair work all my life and have dealt with all sorts of water (in QUANTITY) that people seem to mange to get in their fuel tanks!

PREVENTING the problem is easier than dealing with it after the fact!

Kind words from Bob are always such an encouragement!!!!

showcrop · Feb 3, 2014

I expect that I would have shut it off right away as well. You can always hope that it is something simple and that you can avoid having to bleed it. One of my Fords will start after running out with only a half-way bleeding, and another takes a couple hours to bleed.

Pale Rider · Feb 3, 2014

Pay no attention to Bob. As usual he has all the answers but no real help.

Blackhole49 · Feb 3, 2014

On top of that, I think he missed his meds last night.

Moline Addiction · Feb 3, 2014

I usually just read here and not alot of posting, but Bob seems like a real PIA. He"s like a troll and I have never seen a comment that he"s ever been helpful with. This site would be alot better off without him and his hateful and
smart--- commments. Anyway good luck with the fuel issue, it always seems that when you think it"s something simple it usually turns out to be the biggest PIA.

thurlow · Feb 3, 2014

WOW!!!!!!!!! After 22 posts, already. For those of us who've been around for 12 or 15 or more years, there are a few people whose knowledge/recommendations you can 'take to the bank'; Bob happens to be one of those......although he doesn't need me or anyone else to defend him; his character speaks for itself.

Bob · Feb 3, 2014

Naw, I"m OK.

I don"t think my suggestions were ENTIRELY out of line, or not helpful, considering I likely live in a colder climate than he does, have learned to take care of my stuff/be prepared/keep fuel clean and "dry".

As I said before, it"s a LOT easier to PREVENT freeze ups then to deal with them when the machine is out on the road/away from the shop and stops!

It's been fifteen to thirty below here quite a few nights this winter, with below-zero "highs" and between myself, and 3 or 4 friends and neighbors who run tractors every day to move snow and/or feed cattle, I haven"t heard of a problem between the whole group.

On the other hand, most of us know someone who's ALWAYS got something stalled with a dead battery, frozen or gelled fuel, etc. As with most things in life, how you take care of things has quite an effect on how much trouble you have!

Bobl1958 · Feb 3, 2014

Those of us who have been around for 12 to 15 years don't have one ounce more of seniority or ownership than a person that has been here 12 to 15 posts, Thurlow. It's pretty hard to believe you actually think being here a certain amount of time actually is deserving of anything, when it's not your site.
Now being that I have also been on here awhile, since '97, I have watched a lot of people just plain vanish due to smart a$$ comments. My take is, if a person can't reply with a descent answer, then just keep it to themselves. The rest of us don't really care to hear it. Hiding behind a computer screen and playing tough just doesn't associate with credibility. Bob

showcrop · Feb 3, 2014

(quoted from post at 15:04:02 02/03/14) Those of us who have been around for 12 to 15 years don't have one ounce more of seniority or ownership than a person that has been here 12 to 15 posts, Thurlow. It's pretty hard to believe you actually think being here a certain amount of time actually is deserving of anything, when it's not your site.
Now being that I have also been on here awhile, since '97, I have watched a lot of people just plain vanish due to smart a$$ comments. My take is, if a person can't reply with a descent answer, then just keep it to themselves. The rest of us don't really care to hear it. Hiding behind a computer screen and playing tough just doesn't associate with credibility. Bob

I will defend Bob. I find that he has a lot to offer, and that he has tremendous knowledge of equipment, service and repair and many other topics. He is up there close to JDemaris and Rod NS. It his his delivery that is lacking, and he would probably be much more appreciated if he were to simply remove the shift key from his keyboard.

JayinNY · Feb 3, 2014

Lol, I feel the same about jdemaris , and rod ns, Rod sure is
very helpful when it comes to Fords!

GeneMO · Feb 3, 2014

Jeeezze bob, getting kinda cross there. Not everyone is perfect 100% of the time, least not most of us.

Gene

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