Cultivating Tractor

Anonymous-0 · Jan 24, 2014

Looking to purchase a cultivating tractor for one row.

Thinking about a Farmall Super A or newer that has hydraulics.

What were the changes from the Super A - 140 besides cosmetics.

Also, should I consider the Allis G or smaller tractors loke the Economy with 24" rear tires

Thaoughts

DeltaRed · Jan 24, 2014

The G will be more expencive to buy.Plus they are only good for the midmount stuff.They dont even have a drawbar. A SA-140 will be lots more versatile/adaptable.They are more readily available.They have about twice the power as a G.They are cheaper to buy as well. For me,no contest.Super A, all the way!

Anonymous-0 · Jan 24, 2014

Super A thru 140 pretty much the same, cultivater parts interchange. Plenty of them in my area, Ky.

Leroy · Jan 24, 2014

Super A should be good for 40" rows, dought you could get through on one row on 30" spacing due to running the row on each side of you down. Would have to be less than 50" total width for a single 30" row, that would make your tires within 5" of the next row. The AC G is more of a vegitable cultivating tractor with multi row cultivators down to 15" rows and up to 2 rows at 40", never seen a single row for them. And the Economy I don't think they made a cultivator for them but if they did and you could find a front mount 1 row that would be ideal for a single row on 30" spacing.

JMS/.MN · Jan 24, 2014

Model B AC is a good little one-row tractor, hyd for front or rear implements. Might cost either side of a grand for the bare tractor. Elec or hand start, depending on the yr.

Dean Olson · Jan 24, 2014

I went looking for a Super A and at the time they were bringing $2-3000 in good shape. I stumble across a Super C with Fast Hitch for $500 with the planters and cultivators so I bought that.

Super C is a 2 row tractor but I set it up with cultivators on one side and planter on the other. In affect a 1 row tractor that I don't have to reconfigure. I've been very happy with it.

I have since collected 9 fast hitch implements and another SC. I have them set up so I don't have to reconfigure. I just start the appropriate tractor for the task at hand.

gene bender · Jan 24, 2014

Depends on how much you have to do the SA does have a high clearence for tall crops and for garden stuff its great there are lots of tooling thats available for different crops and getting on and off is nice. Of course you know they are one row unless you could find a vegie model but they are hard to find as they did up to 6 rows 15 on center or any rows from 2 to 6 different spacing. Regular As hand lift works well too and they arent too hard to find but the two cults arent changeable due to the lift. So do not get an SA and try to use the cult for the A. I do have a cult for the A either exhaust lift or hand. The hand lift is spring loaded and easy to use.

rrlund · Jan 24, 2014

Van Paemal Equipment has a couple of 274 offsets and two Kubota offsets. A little pricey,but newer models.
Van Paemel

Anonymous-0 · Jan 24, 2014

You won't go wrong with an A or Super A or 140 but a Cub might do just as well.

Eldon (WA) · Jan 24, 2014

(quoted from post at 08:06:22 01/24/14) Looking to purchase a cultivating tractor for one row.

Thinking about a Farmall Super A or newer that has hydraulics.

What were the changes from the Super A - 140 besides cosmetics.

Also, should I consider the Allis G or smaller tractors loke the Economy with 24" rear tires

Thaoughts

I run an Allis G on 44" rows of sweet corn and green beans. This type of cultivator works great in my soil. I have a couple of G's for sale.

I also have this newer G clone, a Blue G 1000 for sale. It has an IHC Cub engine and Eaton 6 speed transmission and conventional cultivator.

Cue P. · Jan 24, 2014

You could also look for a Ford 1710 Offset...1980s vintage 3 cyl diesel. I think the tool bars and cultivators were interchangeable with IH.

El Toro · Jan 24, 2014

A Farmall B would be a good tractor for cultivating. I kept telling my dad to retire the horses and use tractors. Our neighbor had a row crop Oliver and he kept the cultivators on it. He even use it to rake hay. He used the lights at night when it cooled off. I had a Farmall A with the 16-inch moldboard plow and it wasn't that hard to raise the plow. It had big heavy springs on it and the lifting lever was quite long for leverage. Hal
PS: My dad had a college degree in agriculture and I think it hurt him more than helped him. My grandparents told him tractors and cars just a passing fad. I think I heard that when computers came out and was asked to attend computer school.

nybadlybent · Jan 24, 2014

Wrong Delta, the Allis G does have a drawbar and it does cultivate one row. I have several and they had many options for them including a plow, planter cycle bar mower dozer blade and even a loader. Prices will vary for the G, just as it will for any tractor, some going for $5000 and others under $1000. I have been using one to cultivate my potatoes and I did use one to cultivate my sweet corn before I got discouraged by the coons.
Unlike the Farmall Cub and the Farmall A the G will go very slow. It will go all day on a Tank[4 gals.]of gas and it is fun to use.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 24, 2014

30" spacing is very appealing to me for corn.

Will it cultivate potatoes?

Anonymous-0 · Jan 24, 2014

Sounding like the Allis G might be a better fit for me.

How narrow can you make it - can you cultivate 30" rows?

I'd like to go with something less than the 40" the Farmall cub/A/100/130/140 will do

Eldon (WA) · Jan 24, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:41:02 01/24/14) Sounding like the Allis G might be a better fit for me.

How narrow can you make it - can you cultivate 30" rows?

I'd like to go with something less than the 40" the Farmall cub/A/100/130/140 will do

I don't think you can get a G narrower than 36", the tires hit the fenders. I like the 44" spacing because I pick all my corn with a wheelbarrow and I need something close to that width. 44" just happened to be what my 2 row planter was set at when I bought it, so that is what I use. Even at that width, walking between the rows I still knock some ears off the stalk, so I wouldn't even try 30" rows, if only for the ease of picking.

JDemaris · Jan 24, 2014

(quoted from post at 08:06:22 01/24/14) Looking to purchase a cultivating tractor for one row.

Thinking about a Farmall Super A or newer that has hydraulics.

What were the changes from the Super A - 140 besides cosmetics.

Also, should I consider the Allis G or smaller tractors loke the Economy with 24" rear tires

Thaoughts

I used to do all my cultivating with a Case VAC and mid-mount cultivators that ran by my feet . Worked great. I later tried using a rear 3 point-hitch cultivator and it was awful. One slight steering error and a bunch of corn got torn out in back.

I now use a Bolens Ridemater. I love it. Kind of a "poor mans" Allis G.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 24, 2014

I have had several mid mount culivators that vere built for the Economy, they are a little scarce to buy, but day are avaiable.
I have some Economy Power-Kings to sell.

Spook · Jan 24, 2014

I've only seen one of those at a show. I think they were only made for a couple of years, they seem to be pretty rare. I think they were aimed at market gardeners, I don't see the average homeowner needing one.

Traditional Farmer · Jan 24, 2014

I have a Hines H-1600 its sort of a clone of an AC
G but with hydraulic lift and Cat 0 3pt mid mount and rear.Has hydrostatic drive and high/low range.
I've used AC Gs to cultivate with and the Hines is a lot better in my opinion.If you are looking for a new one Tuff-Bilt makes a G clone also pretty much like the Hines.

Leroy · Jan 24, 2014

Harvey, would you have any pictures of the cultivators? would be interesting to see some.

JDemaris · Jan 24, 2014

"Average homeonwer" has no use for a farm tractor either. I assume that anyone asking about a one-row cultivating tractor is not an "average homeowner."

Neither the Bolens Ridemasters or the Allis Gs are common around my area - but certainly are available and quite a few still in use. My neighbor has three Ridemasters. I've got one. They were used a lot in the "black dirt" onion and lettuce farms not far from me in areas like Florida and Chester, NY.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 24, 2014

I have no pictures of the culivators now, but I have had several in the past.
You could call Mission Sales at Princeton, Indiana
812-385-5061 they own all the rights to the Economy Power-King tractors.
They might have some literature of them.
I have some Power-Kings that are fur sale.

JK-NY · Jan 25, 2014

When I grew market vegetables I had a Farmall Cub and I could cultivate 36" rows with it. I used it to cultivate and hill potatoes, I had disc hillers that go on the cultivator frames. Not sure if it would go to 30" rows- never needed any less than 36". I know if you get the special vegetable cultivators instead of a row crop cultivator like I had you could do very narrow rows. Other options are Massey Harris Pony and Ford 500 offset series. Also Ford Kubota and John Deere made newer diesel one row offset steering tractors in the 1980"s and 1990"s. Personally I liked the offset sterring that a Farmall Cub or A offered for cultivating. I have no experience with the AC G but know they were very popular with vegetable and onion growers for cultivating.

Bret4207 · Jan 26, 2014

Another option is a Gravely or Gravely type walking tractor. I think BCS makes cultivators for theirs. You don't straddle the row, but work the inside of 2 rows. Very handy.

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