New Years ALWAYS Bring New Laws

I’m from Indiana where I live and work, and also often work in Illinois. As of today, January 1, 2013 I'm certain that both states have new laws that affect we common folk.

Indiana: All that I can find is that Illinois beat Indiana 83 – 80 in overtime in college basketball, so good luck. I’m certain that there are new laws that will creep up on us when we least suspect it. I just can't find them on the internet so far.

Illinois: As of today it is illegal, a moving violation to use a “handheld” cell phone while operating a motor vehicle. Also as of today, three moving violations within a year brings an “automatic” suspension of your driver’s license. So if you use a “handheld” cell phone like I do, do yourself a favor and lock your “handheld” cell phone up where you can’t touch it, be accused of talking, texting, taking photos of guys pulling discs down highways WHILE operating your motor vehicle.

Mark

News reports across all states, 40,000 new laws. :roll:

Mark,
What part of Indiana are you from?
In Indiana we get to pay sales tax for all amazon pruchases starting today.
George

40,000? Did you say 40,000? Forty thousand? FORTY THOUSAND NEW LAWS?

Oh nooooo, I am so in trouble now.

40,000 new laws nationwide...today? Ohhhh......

Mark

On the good side, ya can drive 70 in rural areas on Illinois expressways now.

Jessie,
Will there be a test over the new laws? Should I study? Should I take notes?
George

Elkhart County. Good thing I don't use Amazon. I don't want their drones flying around the barns.

Mark

Mark,
Elkart county, Isn't that the trailer and amish capital of the world?
George

They passed that, huh? Good to know. The new company van only does 75 now. Once or twice I got up to 80, maybe 85 on the Indiana toll road, then I got called into the boss' office and told "The max speed in a company vehicle is 70. 75 is the cutoff where you could get suspended, so don't do that anymore or else". The GPS told on me. Since that time, the new company van won't do over 75. It starts stuttering and losing speed. I look down at the speedometer, 75 and dropping. I'm not a mechanic, but got called in for doing over 75, now cuts out at 75. Maybe somehow technologies with the GPS mated to the onboard computer, the boss typing and inputting from his computer "I'll fix that guy"? Got me. Now Mario Andretti passes me, laughing and pointing.

Mark

(quoted from post at 13:49:27 01/01/14) Jessie,
Will there be a test over the new laws? Should I study? Should I take notes?
George

Click to expand...

ah, don't worry about it. If you violate & get caught they will tell you & if not caught, it doesn't matter & you will never know.

Well I have used a wireless head set on my cell phone for years. Holding any phone hurts my wrists.

As for all the laws. I think we should repeal all of the laws every 4-5 years and start over. Then make the laws be applied to the law makers first. If they pan out then apply the laws to the rest of us.

In CO you can now smoke pot, so the state will be going to pot. Stand by for all kids of accidents. The good news is the Bosses can still fire you for it. I never have and Never will nor any one working for me. Pot and tractors don't mix.

I don't know many of the old laws, so how will I know that any of them will affect me?

I don't use the cell phone in a vehicle, so never worry about that.

In TN, Amazon must start collecting sales tax........

Get a Blue Tooth wireless headset. Blue Parrott makes a good one albeit a little clumsy. I've worn out one and am on the second. I can hear the Blue Parrott better than the regular phone and my arm doesn't get tired. Downfalls are you either have it on your head all the time, blocking the hearing in that ear or you put it on when the phone rings, which is dangerous. A trucker isn't even allowed to reach for his phone or bluetooth so he has to wear it, or SHOULD (ahem) wear it all the time. Jim

Is it legal to shoot a drone that is on (over) your own property? I think it's open season! Shoot burn and shut up?

I think the operator should be treated as any other trespasser.

I know a lot of people in Texas. Waiting for drone season to open.

"As of today, January 1, 2013"

This is old news. LoL

We have a distracted driver law here too but from what I've seen, more people are doing it since it became illegal. I think it's a good law. Hands free is allowed for cell phones.

Isn't that crazy? Anti smoking laws, but OK to smoke pot.

Many places require a pee or hair sample to get a job. There goes the unemployment rate.

Can a trucker still reach for his CB mike and yak all day without being in violation?

The only thing these stupid laws do is teach some to do a better job of watching for cops... You're only breaking the law if you're caught.

Rod

Jessie, If I get caught, I'll tell the cops you said it's OK and they won't give me a ticket.
George

In Maryland as of last Oct. 1st you can be ticketed for having the drawbar in your receiver if no trailer hooked up.

"As of today, January 1, 2013"

This is old news. LoL

I'm a ceature of habit. Don't be in such a hurry to push me along to new change. I like to take things slowly.

Mark

You raise a good question. Isn't a blue tooth considered a headset? I don't know that it is, but aren't headsets banned in many or most states because they limit hearing to such things as emergency sirens or the like? Doesn't a blue tooth in the ear do the same thing? I'm just asking. Doesn't matter to me. As of today, when in Illinois, the cell phone gets locked up in the back of the company van, vmail greeting reminds everyone whose calls I missed why that is. Its the law, and besides, I don't like talking on phones anyway. In a way, I'm saved by the law as well as saved by the law.

Mark

In Illinois can't throw a cigarette out the car window get a ticket this country is get way to much government and it started with a seat belt law that they said they weren't going to in force its gona get bad

And you thought congress didn't do anything last year.

joe Pulaski co

You think its OK to throw cigarette buts out the window? Lots of big fires started that way! And besides it's littering! And if you don't wear a seatbelt and get in an accident become a vegetable, the rest of us will have to take care of you till you die of old age! Think about these things!

1 federal government = 1
+ 50 state governments = 50
+ 50 states x 10 to 100 county governments per state = 500 to 5000 county governments (Minnesota has 87 counties, Iowa has 99 counties)
+ 500 to 5000 county governments x average 10 to 40 townships per county = 5,000 to 200,000 township governments
+ average at least one city, town or village per township = 5,000 to 200,000 local goverments.

40,000 new laws across the country sounds a bit low for a large country with over 300 million people and possibly 10,000 or more different governments of all levels across the country.

JD, You want to repeal murder, theft, trespassing, inheritance, property rights, marriage law...etc etc etc every 4 or 5 years and start over...really?
I think that would be total chaos, for no reason. How could we plan our lives not knowing what the busines, and property laws would be?

Remake society every 4 or 5 years? Why?

Listen to the people, they want law and order...but they also don't want any laws....huh? Catch 22..and very fuzzy thinking.

Thanks for giving it a reality check.

People don't want any laws...until it bites them...then they want Law and Order...huh????

No need for over-reaction for the sake of drama. I think most laws should have a sunset. Totally reasonable. Same for taxes. I think most new taxes need a sunset.

There are foundational or core laws that prohibit intentional harm to one another and ownership (and rights there in) in most countries. Usually such things are established at the outset.

The problem is that ignorance does not exempt us from punitive measures. Couple that with a volume of laws that no one can fully learn and you set up a system that is inherently unjust and ripe for abuse.

And with regards to paying for someone who is paralyzed by not wearing a seatbelt, what do the people who are injured due to wearing a seatbelt? My own mother would have been killed had she been wearing her seatbelt when her truck rolled over. It's not an isolated case. That being said, I wear my seatbelt most of the time, but that's my choice. There are things we all do that may in some way inconvenience others. Should we outlaw running to avoid medical costs for blown knees that we all end up sharing through increased premiums?

But, this same process happens through history. Inevitably there will be some fashion of catharsis and things will scale back, usually after significant abuses.

And regarding property rights and benefits thereof, in all the thefts and vandalism we've reported over the years, exactly 0 have ever resulted in the return of property or the apprehension of a suspect. While I don't seek to have such laws repelled, the "real" application of such laws have to be understood.

Meanwhile, new laws that tax us for equipment on our land for instance only help to pay for poor management on the part of our local governments. While I understand the need of taxes, these governments spend recklessly. Our own local government spent 13 million to put a sidewalk that was going to go to a new housing development, that didn't go in. They labeled it "beautification". And they jumped the wheel tax up to 20 dollars. Sure, they didn't up the wheel tax to pay for the sidewalk to nowhere, but they spent the money they should have been using on roads on the sidewalk... requiring them to search for money elsewhere.

I knew drug addicts that would never steal to pay for drugs... they would only steal to pay for food... because they spent their food money on drugs.

With most new laws these days, they aren't looking to put you in jail, they are just running out of our money and need more.

George,

Used to be RV capitol of the world, decades ago though. Not much anymore. Last time RVs really ramped up was during Katrina when George Bush dumped million$ into the local manufacturers to build as many as possible to send down for temp housing. Many of those out of work RV guys got called back for months to turn so many out, that the better part of them was never used after they were shipped down there, and most of them got picked up by folks connected and used on lakes and stuff for pennies. RV manufacturing in and around Elkhart is basically dried up.

Lot of Amish folk though.

Mark

Jonfmn has told us already that he pulls the pictures off his dash cam.

(quoted from post at 19:20:58 01/01/14) In Illinois can't throw a cigarette out the car window get a ticket this country is get way to much government and it started with a seat belt law that they said they weren't going to in force its gona get bad

Click to expand...

such a shame that it is illegal to start roadside fires.

What I would like to see is to cap the total numbers of laws at the current amount. So if they want to make a new law they must do away with an old one.