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I have found my self without a drivers license for a while. I'm think a tractor would be a good way to get by. The fartherest I have to go is my girlfriends about 10 miles. I saw like an old tractor called farmall that goes by and I guessing it can go like 45. Is this a good tractor. I don't need any plows or things just a FAST tractor
 
The Hs and Ms actually ran about 22 MPH,but ya,that was relatively fast compared to the other makes. Good old tractor. Check though,I've know folks who drove tractors alright after loosing their drivers license,but I know another guy who was told by the judge that he was going to jail if he found out he was even driving a riding mower to mow his lawn!
 
Get a Ford with overdrive, will blow the doors off anything else on the road. My dad drove his Farmall H after he lost his license. About 20 miles was his limit.
 
you can get a DUI on a tractor or even a horse so if you are thinking you are driving something legally I don't think for sure you are on the right track. Heck, better off with a dirt bike and you can just go off road if needed if your intent is to bend the rules. Wear a helmet and no way the rider can be ID'ed.
 
worked 3 rd shift only 2 guys could drive forklift on street cop shop 2 doors down. check oliver some are fast i got one but rember if you do the crime you gotta do the time
 
Dumb idea! There was a long post the other day about crazy things that happened to tractors on the road because of stupid car/pickup drivers. You'll be taking a hel! of a chance especially if you do it at night.
 
If you lose your drivers license in Iowa you can't use a tractor as a mode of transportation. Neighbor lost his due to drinking. He was using his tractor to go to town and the highway patrol told him to stop. If he was using the tractor to pull wagons to town he was OK. He made many trips to town with a wagon and 20 bushels of corn. Honest story.
 
Thats funny, speaking of H's and M's...

I know of a fella that owns a few funeral homes and quite a tractor collection, all very rural, and at one of them during the Christmas season, he parks an M out front of one of his funeral home with a big wreath on it. Now here's the kicker. He and one of his workers, a retired farmer pull the M from his tractor collection miles away, free wheeling behind one of his vehicles, getting up to around 45 MPH in the wee hours of the morning. An M freewheeling down the road being pulled at 45 MPH. I told them guys, "Well, at least you're headed to the right place if something goes wrong". Great guys, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't. Maybe after a few beers and a couple of shots, but I don't think so even then. I'm not ready to die. I'm really not.

Mark
 
No chance.

Even the early mid 1950s Fords with Sherman OD units will top out at about 21 - 23 MPH at rated engine speed.

The only vintage tractor that I am aware of that that will approach 30 MPH are some Co-Op models.

In any event you certainly do not want to drive ANY vintage tractor much beyond 20 MPH.

Get a sub 50 cc scooter.

Dean
 
Same thing here.You can drive the tractor betweem 'jobs',but not as transportation.You get caught 'driveing' your tractor,you are driveing under suspention,you go to jail.You messed up,got cought.Now suck it up and do the time...
 
About 20 years ago, I sold a VERY good F-30 to a guy that lived about 60 miles away. He towed it home with a tow bar that attached to the front spindle and connected to his receiver. All 4 tractor tires remained on the pavement.

It was January when he picked it up and the temperature was in the mid teens.

He told me that he routinely towed his vintage tractors to shows in this way at speeds up to 50 MPH.

I saw the F-30 at a show a couple of years later and it appeared to be in fine shape.

Dean
 
out here you can drve a tractor but most tractors top out below 20 mph, and if the whole front end isnt tight and right your in for a chore keeping it under control, the only tractor i know of that can hit 45 mph was the mineapolis moline udlx if you can find one of those prepare to pay well above 100,000 bucks for it its one of the rarest, most sought after units on the planet, i think one of the graham bradley models could get close to that too, but again those are very rare tractors,also if you use a tractor for on road transportation, it will have to have to have lites front and rear, brake lites, which means adding the whole system since most tractors sold in the us dont have that maybe new ones do i dont buy new plastic tractors, and turn signals it also has to be within leagle size to be on the road which means something like ford or farmall maybe a smaller deere , no big dualed up monster tractors , i have used my tractor to get to and from work, before due to a accident i had no trailer for awhile and the only way to get it to a job was to drive it, its a pain in the butt, i really dont recomend it, not to mention the weather problems if its a open station tractor
 
Are you sure you dont need a drivers licence to drive a tractor on public roads most states you need one. No Farmall goes 45 but several old ones will go 17 or so.
 
That cop was wrong as you neede a drivers licence to drive a tractor on a public road even garden tractors local thought his Cub mower would be OK to drive down for a beer and that didnt work.
 
Bicycle.

Oh, and if you've lost your driver's license, your girlfriend will be next. That should considerably reduce the amount of driving you have to do.
 
You could try building one of these

http://www.tailendcharliethetractor.org/

But you need a Chamberlain (made in Australia) to start with.
 
The only tractors that I know of that will do 45 are the old Silver King,Friday (orchard tractor)and I think one of the old Allis Chalmers,
 
If You have lost Your license as in suspended? The State of Indiana considers any motorized vehicle necessary to have a licensed driver if operated on the road. They really don't enforce it till You do something illegal. If the police know You are not supposed to be driving. You will be arrested for "Operating a motorized vehicle without a valid operators license"! I have read in local papers of people being arrested on tractors, & lawn mowers, & even horses for suspensions, & DWI, & & charged with "Public Intoxication". Bottom line... If it burns gas, or diesel, & police know who to look for; then You are asking for trouble. In Indiana!
 
Donn"t do it. Driving back home, at night, no rear lights, you"ll get rear-ended and that"ll be the end.
 
(quoted from post at 23:59:41 12/11/13) That cop was wrong as you neede a drivers licence to drive a tractor on a public road even garden tractors local thought his Cub mower would be OK to drive down for a beer and that didnt work.
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It depends entirely on your State laws. What goes in one state might not go in another. Check with your DMV or local court or police agency. They may consider anything with a motor to be verbotten or they may say it's okay. Only by finding out your states rules, or what the judge in your cases sentence dictates will you be in the right.
 
Have you considered getting a bicycle? Ten MPH is very doable for most people on a mountain bike and gravel roads, up to fifteen MPH is realistic on a road bike and paved shoulders. In most states it should be legal to ride a bike along the shoulder of the road without a driver's license, but you still need to follow the rules of the road.
 
In NY they routinely put drunks, non support paying bums and other ner do wells in the slammer for exactly what you are proposing. They all think that they are just "this" much smarter than the law. They are usually wrong.
By not having a license you have already proven to some court your lack of responsibility in some area. Please instead of trying to circumvent your punishment use this time to reflect on whatever you crime it was that caused you to be in the predicament.
 
As a general rule . If you loose your license with a criminal charge. You are not allowed to operate ANY motor vehicle on a municipal , county, state, province or federal highway.
A DUI E-bike is the best you can do.
A tractor, farm equipment, construction equipment etc. Is subject to a max of 25mph when using a slow moving vehicle sign. Any faster and it becomes a vehicle requiring a license plate.
 
Hey Dean,

I guess that I left out an important detail. They don't use a tow bar. Its tethered, tied by...? The older, smaller, retired farmer bundles up and rides it out on the M. I guess thats an important part to have left out. And thats why I tell them guys as they pull it to one of the funeral homes, at least they are headed to the right place if something goes wrong.

Mark
 
Years ago a lady got a DWI in our town. She had a Farmall M you would see it sitting parked along street in town. Rumor also said she got in trouble on the tractor too !

Now for fast tractors, old ones the silver kings go FAST I don't know how fast but too darn fast for their own good ! I had one and did not even get it topped out before I gave up and said this is too darn fast as it was hard to control.
Now many modern tractors go really FASY. See JCB fast trac. I followed one and it was around 50 MPH. Many are now trading them off and buying Fendts they go fast and make a better unit off road too then the JCB.

If you do start driving a tractor on the road alot I'm betting you will still be in even deeper doo doo.
 
Cheap old tractors don't run very well, have loose steering, and bad brakes. Can you fix all that up? I suspect not.

Even at 20MPH, you need a tractor with good tight steering and reliable brakes, or you're going for a ride into the oncoming lane or a ditch.

You would be much better off to say screw the law and drive without a license. That's how most people who lose their license handle the problem.
 
Not to "knock" on anyone, but the guy that started this whole thread was a guest and most of his post is spelled wrong and must be interpreted. Also anyone that sees a farmall go by can obviously tell they are not doing 45mph! Also the original poster never came back. I do believe somebody started this thread purposely just to see if they could get a rise out of anyone, and for the most part I would say it worked! :idea:
 
(quoted from post at 19:53:48 12/11/13) I have found my self without a drivers license for a while. I'm think a tractor would be a good way to get by. The fartherest I have to go is my girlfriends about 10 miles. I saw like an old tractor called farmall that goes by and I guessing it can go like 45. Is this a good tractor. I don't need any plows or things just a FAST tractor
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Do you know what it would be like going 22 mph on an old M or an H. Maybe when they were new, but after 60 years. You are just looking for trouble.
 
Several years ago,fellow here lost his liscence.One year suspention.Kept driveing.Got caught-several times.Went to jail once or twice.In the end his liscence was revoked for 7 years.Cops dont play with suspended drivers!They drop the hammer-HARD!Play it smart.Stay away from a steering wheel!!!
 

An old Silver King is the fastest "Old" tractor I can think of..but my Grandad's Farmall "H"had the Governors set up and would definitely scare you out LONG before it would reach top speed..!!

Most "Old Tractors" are not safe at speeds above 10-12 MPH anyway..

Ron.
 
Do you know what it would be like going 22 mph on an old M or an H. Maybe when they were new, but after 60 years. You are just looking for trouble.
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There's a 560 at a local salvage yard that a Mennonite had a gear set put in the rear end that would make the tractor do 40+ MPH. It was quite smashed up after he took it and a trailer down into a highway ditch fully wound out or close to it. Somehow he only broke an arm and collarbone, along with destroying the tractor and trailer.

AG
 
Now you're just making things up. There is nothing that says that no SMV sign means a vehicle must be licensed. Implements towed by a truck aren't supposed to exceed 40km/h in Ontario, but the MTO website doesn't say that exceeding that changes a wagon into a trailer, providing it's being used for farm purposes.A SMV sign is required on a a tractor, SPIH, or implements towed by the aforementioned, not capable of attaining and sustaining speeds higher than 40km/h. Once they exceed 40.1km/h, the sign must be removed. A tractor is a tractor, is a tractor. No 2 ways about it. Everything with a motor/engine is a motor vehicle, but that's a whole different story than registration/insurance.
I'm pretty sure that a DUI charge technically applies to all motor vehicles, including tractors and SPIH, when used outside the business of agriculture. Things get sticky in this area.
 
I checked into it. The OPP and MTO frown on the 38mph/60Km capable European Farm equipment when driven over 25mph/40KM. Supposed to be plated as a highway legal vehicle at 25.1mph .
The slow moving sign is to be removed from a farm wagon then full lights and brakes added. When speeds exceed 25mph and the wagon becomes a licensed trailer.
I have a copy of the highway traffic act too.
 
(quoted from post at 06:02:19 12/12/13) As a general rule . If you loose your license with a criminal charge. You are not allowed to operate ANY motor vehicle on a municipal , county, state, province or federal highway.
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You don't lose your license to a Criminal charge. You lose your license to a Vehicle and Traffic charge. I only mention this because you hold others to a similar standard in their posts. While a DWI charge may be a Misdemeanor or Felony, it's still in the V+T section, not Criminal Law. Criminal Law would be Assaults, Robbery, Theft, etc., crimes against a person. V+T Laws are crimes in violation of the agreement you made when you got your license, to obey the laws of the State for using public roadways.
 
(quoted from post at 12:48:02 12/12/13) Now you're just making things up. There is nothing that says that no SMV sign means a vehicle must be licensed. Implements towed by a truck aren't supposed to exceed 40km/h in Ontario, but the MTO website doesn't say that exceeding that changes a wagon into a trailer, providing it's being used for farm purposes.A SMV sign is required on a a tractor, SPIH, or implements towed by the aforementioned, not capable of attaining and sustaining speeds higher than 40km/h. Once they exceed 40.1km/h, the sign must be removed. A tractor is a tractor, is a tractor. No 2 ways about it. Everything with a motor/engine is a motor vehicle, but that's a whole different story than registration/insurance.
I'm pretty sure that a DUI charge technically applies to all motor vehicles, including tractors and SPIH, when used outside the business of agriculture. Things get sticky in this area.
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Once again, this is the difference between States, or in this case countries. The Vehicle and Traffic laws, or Ministry of Traffic or whatever your Province calls it, has definitions defining exactly what is and isn't a Motor Vehicle vs Commercial Motor Vehicle vs Implement of Husbandry vs Construction equipment, etc. On top of that there will be case law and interpretations handed down that further differentiate specifications and conditions. Trying to apply one states or nations laws to another nation of state is futile.
 
Has anyone thought of changing the gears in the transmission? Is it possible to change the constant mesh gear as well some drive gears to lower the gear ratio, increasing the speed. I would like to see a 45mph+ Farmall H.
 
(quoted from post at 16:04:09 12/13/13) Has anyone thought of changing the gears in the transmission? Is it possible to change the constant mesh gear as well some drive gears to lower the gear ratio, increasing the speed. I would like to see a 45mph+ Farmall H.
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Better plan on redoing the entire steering system, do some super serious alignment and brakes too. A lot of tractors are pretty freakin' scary at 15 mph much less at 45! Accidentally running off the road at 15 mph is bad enough, at 45 you stand a good chance of dying.
 
(quoted from post at 12:00:11 12/13/13)
(quoted from post at 06:02:19 12/12/13) As a general rule . If you loose your license with a criminal charge. You are not allowed to operate ANY motor vehicle on a municipal , county, state, province or federal highway.
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You don't lose your license to a Criminal charge. You lose your license to a Vehicle and Traffic charge. I only mention this because you hold others to a similar standard in their posts. While a DWI charge may be a Misdemeanor or Felony, it's still in the V+T section, not Criminal Law. Criminal Law would be Assaults, Robbery, Theft, etc., crimes against a person. V+T Laws are crimes in violation of the agreement you made when you got your license, to obey the laws of the State for using public roadways.
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Not sure what the law is now but in the early 1980's a co-worker here in IL was a paroled felon. He didn't have a driver's license. He said his drivers license was revoked upon his conviction (not charge) and he couldn't get a license once he got out of prison until the terms of his parole were met.
 
(quoted from post at 09:45:02 12/14/13)
(quoted from post at 12:00:11 12/13/13)
(quoted from post at 06:02:19 12/12/13) As a general rule . If you loose your license with a criminal charge. You are not allowed to operate ANY motor vehicle on a municipal , county, state, province or federal highway.
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You don't lose your license to a Criminal charge. You lose your license to a Vehicle and Traffic charge. I only mention this because you hold others to a similar standard in their posts. While a DWI charge may be a Misdemeanor or Felony, it's still in the V+T section, not Criminal Law. Criminal Law would be Assaults, Robbery, Theft, etc., crimes against a person. V+T Laws are crimes in violation of the agreement you made when you got your license, to obey the laws of the State for using public roadways.
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In Ontario an over .080 alcohol conviction ( DUI ) or Impaired Driving are criminal charges. Leaving the scene of an accident can be either a fine under the highway traffic act or a criminal charge.
When it's a criminal charge associated with driving which suspends the license. There is a ban on driving any motor vehicle on roadways. The e-bike is a highly debated loophole.
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