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Yes- Here in W. PA. the winds are a-blowin, it is a-snowin" I have 2 furnaces running, and i live alone since my dear wife passed on. Now, the roads are snowy and icy, Christmas is a-commin", my Niece in Florida is beckoning with a crooked finger, and i dassen"t leave, fer fear the furnaces will puke, or burn the house down! Other than that--all is well! RJ
Whether it is or it ain't, I am so SICK of hearing "How 'bout that global warming thing?" EVERY time it gets a little bit cold, or EVERY time a flake of snow falls.
We used to have WINTER in the 70s 80s and 90s. It would get cold and start snowing the day after Thanksgiving, and stay that way until Easter. The temperature never went higher than 28 from December until mid-March. We'd get so much snow that Dad would run out of places to pile it. The farm looked like one giant snow fort.
When they closed school, you knew it was REALLY bad out. People stayed home from work because of the weather, but we still had school.
Seems like now we get a good thaw about once a week, and maybe one good snowstorm where it drops 12" or so.
Something is different. I don't know if it's global warming or a normal cycle, but winters are nothing like they used to be.
We used to have WINTER in the 70s 80s and 90s. It would get cold and start snowing the day after Thanksgiving, and stay that way until Easter. The temperature never went higher than 28 from December until mid-March. We'd get so much snow that Dad would run out of places to pile it. The farm looked like one giant snow fort.
When they closed school, you knew it was REALLY bad out. People stayed home from work because of the weather, but we still had school.
Seems like now we get a good thaw about once a week, and maybe one good snowstorm where it drops 12" or so.
Something is different. I don't know if it's global warming or a normal cycle, but winters are nothing like they used to be.
Traditional Farmer
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Yea I remember way back then when we walked the 3 miles to school because it was too cold to bring the mule out the barn,now we can pick Coconuts off the trees on the same route(LOL)
I guess record low temperatures still means we have Global Warming?
I guess record low temperatures still means we have Global Warming?
gtractorfan
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Yeabut I remember a year when I was a kid (late 1950's or early '60's) doing "fall" plowing in Febuary. Also some years way back when ponds hardly froze over. This is in east central Indiana.
gtractorfan
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Ooops, meant mine as a reply to mkirsch.
DaninKansas
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Agreed.
Ignore the growing ice caps and the fact that the earth has grown colder the last 10 years - the government (and some grant reliant scientist) have a vested interest in telling everyone the earth is warming.
Ignore the growing ice caps and the fact that the earth has grown colder the last 10 years - the government (and some grant reliant scientist) have a vested interest in telling everyone the earth is warming.
When I was a kid in the late fifties we always had at least two foot of snow on the ground at thanksgiving and the street dept. would push the snow up on a vacant lot by the post office and then flood it with a fire hydrant so we would have a place to ice skate. Our skating rink would always last until mid March. Not any more.
waltdavies
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Watching a program on the TV this weekend and they now have a way to measure the whole world temp to determin if it's up or down. Maybe we can now get a real answer to this global warming thing.
Walt
Walt
The weather has gone in cycles before man started
industrialization. I can not say any decade around here was really
noted for being snowy and quite a number of years especially in the
1980's were rather dry during the winter. So much so that I sold
my snowmobile seeing that I never was going to take it to Old Forge
or any other snow belt in New York. Quite often we might see a
cold snap for a week but the thermometer would go above freezing
once the Arctic Air Mass weakened plus the Sun coming out with no
wind blowing.
industrialization. I can not say any decade around here was really
noted for being snowy and quite a number of years especially in the
1980's were rather dry during the winter. So much so that I sold
my snowmobile seeing that I never was going to take it to Old Forge
or any other snow belt in New York. Quite often we might see a
cold snap for a week but the thermometer would go above freezing
once the Arctic Air Mass weakened plus the Sun coming out with no
wind blowing.
Anonymous-0
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Ya,, Im about sik a this crap also.. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Maybe if the goverment would take charge of the weather we would be better off. :lol: :lol: 8) 8) :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :wink: :wink: :wink:
Maybe if the goverment would take charge of the weather we would be better off. :lol: :lol: 8) 8) :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :wink: :wink: :wink:
Ted in NE-OH
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I am glad for any global warming. I hate the cold. Maybe we will be able to grow cotton in Ohio.
Ya,I had a neighbor who sold snowmobiles in the 70s who quit and went to selling lawn mowers instead. I remember one Christmas in the 80s when there was a butterfly flying around in the barn while we were milking that morning. Several Thanksgivings when the kids were outside playing football with no jackets.
gtractorfan
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Yeabut this is still fall, winter starts in 12 days.
The story we got from my Dad (and others)is that when my Aunt was born on Christmas Day 1928, the rest of the kids went to the field by the house and picked daniliond for mom....
This was in SE Nebraska.
I remember the Jan of 1972 in SE Nebraska. We went to a one-room country school. We were outside playing in the 75° temps at recess when my dad drove by in the station wagon my mom had wrecked a couple weeks before. He died that Feb, at his funeral we had temps in the 60's.
This was in SE Nebraska.
I remember the Jan of 1972 in SE Nebraska. We went to a one-room country school. We were outside playing in the 75° temps at recess when my dad drove by in the station wagon my mom had wrecked a couple weeks before. He died that Feb, at his funeral we had temps in the 60's.
I have 7 freeze proof hydrants around this small 10 acres, and all 7 are froze up. It must be a shallow place, between the pump house, and the first hydrant. I have water at the pump house and also to the house. I ran hose's to the cows tank , from the pump house, to get by, till it warms up. I came here out of Illinois, and we always went 36" deep with our water lines. Here in Wa, I could only rent a 30" Ditch Witch, and hoped that would be enough, well it apparently isn't enough. So much for our normal extreme being 20 deg. It will give me something to do this spring, besides mowing and gardening. Going to buy longer hydrants also.
DaninKansas
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So what are they going to compare it to? Until they figure out how to take the temperature for the whole world 100 years ago, 200 years ago and 4000 years ago it doesn't mean anything.
Even 4000 years ago it a short time when you are talking global climate change.
Even 4000 years ago it a short time when you are talking global climate change.
Lyle Noland
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Yup here in northern part of ontario as close as I can remember in 1868 we had a very mild winter no snow to speak of never had to feed the chickens must of been the horse manure
Goose
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Would that have been the winter of '83-'84?
Here in Nebraska, it basically started snowing the day after Thanksgiving and didn't quit until the end of February.
The entire winter, my wife drove an old 4X4 Blazer and I drove a 4X4 pickup with a plow on it. Our family car didn't leave the garage until the first of March.
Here in Nebraska, it basically started snowing the day after Thanksgiving and didn't quit until the end of February.
The entire winter, my wife drove an old 4X4 Blazer and I drove a 4X4 pickup with a plow on it. Our family car didn't leave the garage until the first of March.
37chief
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All I know is March of 64 was my first time in snow. Navy boot camp in Illinois, where I couldn't leave, the next time was in Japan around 67 in the snow again, and couldn't leave. You folks to the west of California keep that stuff right where it is. It's cold enough out there now without snow. Stan
Janicholson
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It is pretty wet to the West of Californis till you get to Hawaii. Maybe the Mississippi? I l;ive 1/4 mile west of it and it is -7 here in St. Cloud MN Jim
37chief
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OOPS I meant east. stan
ShadetreeRet
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Must have been about the time man discovered fire!
Texasmark1
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That's the same year we had a dreadful ice storm just like this year here in N. TX.. However we were ill prepared for it due to the way things were back then vs today. It was my 4th year on the farm and had few assets and wife and 4 kids and it was tough.
Mark
Mark
NEBeef,
I agree, most people including myself too often only consider what has happened within the last week to be a major weather trend.
How far along are we in the earth's next ice age cycle? The last ice age peaked about 15,000 years ago with the Wisconsin glacier extending to central Iowa?
I agree, most people including myself too often only consider what has happened within the last week to be a major weather trend.
How far along are we in the earth's next ice age cycle? The last ice age peaked about 15,000 years ago with the Wisconsin glacier extending to central Iowa?
Traditional Farmer
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Great! I'd love to have weather like Miami Beach and never have to move(LOL)
There used to be a website dedicated to just that subject. It was hilarious. Much of our weather data collection is at airports. They'd have pictures of things like the station in 1950 surrounded by acres and acres of grass and not a building in site and the same station today surrounded by acres and acres of blacktop and buildings all around it. Temp sensors in the path of an AC exhaust duct, stuff like that. Garbage data in, garbage out.
T in NE
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Don't forget we have just over half the weather stations that we had 30 years ago, and most of the ones that closed were in higher latitudes and altitudes- the colder ones.
If you can get ahold of the actual temperature data instad of the "adjusted" data, there has been little to no change in global temp in the last 30 years.
The weather service was forced to set up properly sited weather stations in the early 2000's. The temperatures recorded at those locations agree with satellite data, and are cooler than their nearby, "official" sites.
As the older equipment has been replaced with new digital stuff, it's been relocated to where it's convenient for the people putting it in and servicing it, not where it would get an accurate reading.
If you can get ahold of the actual temperature data instad of the "adjusted" data, there has been little to no change in global temp in the last 30 years.
The weather service was forced to set up properly sited weather stations in the early 2000's. The temperatures recorded at those locations agree with satellite data, and are cooler than their nearby, "official" sites.
As the older equipment has been replaced with new digital stuff, it's been relocated to where it's convenient for the people putting it in and servicing it, not where it would get an accurate reading.
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