Ammonia nitrate

BIG RUH · Nov 27, 2013

Pecan growers ( St. Louis area ) my self included use ammonia nitrate for our pecan trees. Only port in the area that has a permit to receive it has decide not to get it anymore, too much government red tape. Guess I will try urea and see how well that works

Bob Bancroft · Nov 27, 2013

Another memory from my youth. We used that to top dress wheat. I don't know why. Maybe that was an economical decision. We have used urea, ammonium sulfate, and now liquid. It came in these little plastic bags. Several years ago I was digging out an old foundation to clean it up and return the area to crop production. My cousin had dumped lots of stones/etc. in there. Well out comes this wad of colorful plastic bags, looking just like new!
Haven't had it here in a long time. And it's probably a good thing that back in the day I didn't know anything about mixing it with fuel oil and trying to blast out stumps, stones, and so on.

ohiojim · Nov 27, 2013

local farmers here have switched also..you can still buy small quantities of tech grade,it"s what the exploding targets are made of..

old · Nov 27, 2013

Yep another thing they are trying to take away from people just because a few crazies use it to blow stuff up that they should not be blowing up

Billy NY · Nov 27, 2013

I do believe those on the side of good, that are against evil, have taken an enormous amount of heat for the things these people do. We are punished for the lack of resolution of how to deal with this complexity of human nature. These people who are cloaked until they act, cause the law abiding population to receive "barracks justice", one persons evil and unlawful actions equals punishment to all others, you know, those people who don't and will not perpetrate evil in society. The laws enacted early this year in this state do exactly that, won't mention the subject, and or better stop here, no need to steer the subject of this thread to something that will get deleted, but..... I hear ya Rich, its getting to be a bit much.

samn40 · Nov 27, 2013

Join the club! We had an underground movement that got good at making bombs with fertilisers back in the early'70s So we have not been able to buy ammonium nitrate since....The price of fertilisers has went sky high( just like a lot of buildings did!) and the baddies moved on to using semtex instead!
Sam

old · Nov 27, 2013

Ya when I moved to this area I could buy an explosive calls Ni-Pack all I had to do was sign for it and be on my way. Was nice to be able to get the stuff for moving big rocks etc. Now you can not buy the stuff no matter how much you have to spend on it unless you go black market. Sad how the people in D.C. punish those who abide by the law almost as much as they punish those who do not

GeneMO · Nov 27, 2013

I was able to buy regular old dynamite up until 1988 or so. I never hurt anyone with it, just blew postholes, etc.

They take the fun out of everything.

Gene

old · Nov 27, 2013

Ya I still remember blowing some rocks and having one fly so high you stopped being able to see it. Kept watching for it and yep saw it coming back down and made sure we where out of the way. Landed in my small lake and never have found it LOL

Pair-a-dice farm · Nov 27, 2013

(quoted from post at 12:35:01 11/27/13) Pecan growers ( St. Louis area ) my self included use ammonia nitrate for our pecan trees. Only port in the area that has a permit to receive it has decide not to get it anymore, too much government red tape. Guess I will try urea and see how well that works

I don't know where they get it but I still get AN from my coop. I usually spread several tons a year on pasture. Urea works OK if you can get it in the ground. It tends to evaporate quicker than AN but has more units of N per ton.

showcrop · Nov 27, 2013

Like pair a dice says you need to spread it right before a rain. I always say that I am going to get it ahead, so that I am ready when the rain is forecast. But instead I scramble at the last minute to get everything together and get it on before the rain.

36F30 · Nov 27, 2013

Ask for stabilized Urea. I have used U-Max and U-flex, gives a 30 day release compared to 8 days with plain Urea. Just a bit more expensive up front but eliminates losses from volatilization and cuts losses from leaching.

randallinMo · Nov 28, 2013

You should be just fine using urea. All nitrate fertilizers have different handling characteristics. One of the BIG problems with ammonium nitrate is that in hot/humid conditions, it turns to soup. Did you ever go into a fertilizer plant in the hot summer time just before a rain? The ammonium nitrate bin will have a big puddle of slop running out the front onto the floor. Our local coop doesn't handle it anymore because of that reason. 'Just too much loss of inventory, not to mention the mess it makes in a blended load of fertilizer. I"ve known other fertilizer dealers to carry the product in late winter/very early spring, but try to have their inventory depleted by the first of May.

Texasmark1 · Nov 28, 2013

Ammonium Nitrate is what you get for N if you go to the commercial fertilizer dealer and buy in bulk and borrow their spreaders or have them spread it for you. No choice.

If you buy it in the bag, usually it's Ammonium Sulphate or AS and Urea. Problem I have with bags is cost and Urea is volatility if you don't incorporate it into the soil. However I like the convenience of doing my own spreading when I am ready, not when the fert dealer is ready. Besides on my alkali clay, the sulphur helps with the soil analysis.

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