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a neighbor had a $30,000 john deere skid loader stolen a week ago. what do you think the chances of getting the thieves or loader back are? the sheriff says forget about it and move on because the skid loader is probably in mexico by now. cant believe this crap is starting in our community
 
Dealer here in our small town lost a brand new MF small loader. They think it was in Mexico buy the next day. They think it is someone just driving the country with a trailer. HOW MANY OF USE leave the keys in? Take your key and see how many of your neighbors tractors it will start. We did this once at a used tractor lot. I was able to start 5 out of 7 tractors with my IHCASE key.
 
A friend of mine was tearing out a fencerow with his small Case dozer. He left it on the job one night and returned the next morning to find a 2000 Ford tractor there and the dozer gone. Whoever stole the tractor liked the dozer better and just traded, guess he couldn't haul both. The tractor was stolen in the next county but the dozer was never found.
 
Hi you must live close to Mexico as you think everything goes there. If your Sheriff would look around he might find it . We found a new brush hog behind pond as someone was waiting to cool off.
 
I suppose when someone grows a tree in Mexico, they will have a use for one.
Telling you guys it is long gone makes the job easy, especially if his cousin stole it.
Try following around all the sweet innocent fly by night loggers- not near you, but in the surrounding counties, it is under an army surplus camo net way up a logging road. They know cops don't look for evidence 4 miles up a mud trail. It will not be seen in public in daylight for years to come. If you tell the state police it might be in another county, they must get involved. they will tell game wardens, who will tell forestry rangers, who will spot it... after it is worn to a frazzle... since the thieves had no money into it right?
Keep your ears open in all the bar rooms loggers hang out and do their bragging in. Ask timber buyers who is delivering more, more often.
As I proof read this... tell the state forestry office! They hate crooked loogers as much as anyone, they will be happy to keep an eye out.
Happy hunting...
 
Most around here have a tracking device installed.
A semi was recently stolen and found the next day two states away.
 
Sounds like that TV show where you start out small and barter up, only doesn't sound like much bartering was done in this case.
 
Yep , we had one stolen several years back wright before Christmas on the coldest night of the year . They drove part way onto the farm from the back with a four wheel drive pickup that had goodyear tires . They drove to the bottom of the hill beind the barn and then walked up slid the barn door open fired it up and drove it out the back to a waiting truck and trailer then west bound down the township road and were gone . Four weeks later some guy was talking at the local coffee shop about the great deal he got on a New Holland LX 665 , well someone there made the comment that he heard that someone had one stolen . This guy went home and called the law they came out and checked the S/N and yep it was ours they hauled it to impound then my buddy went down and sure enough it was ours . AFTER we had gone out and bought another LX665 . That is when the fight started with the insurance co. They said it was theres now and we said OH NO you have not paid the clam yet so it is still ours . So now we have two LX 665 's But now they are set with a lock out code that must be punched in before you try and start it and if you try and start it with out the code it will start run for 15 seconds and SHUT DOWN and will not restart till another code is put in . And it is NOT the same . since then we have installed master switches on the tractors , you can not see the master and you will spend time tryen to bypass once you find it and crooks don't want to spend time . Also we will know if someone trys to sneak in that back way as now there are censors that are out there and are wireless . they sound and alarm at the farm and also here at my place . i can be at the back side of the farm in under six min.
 
The cops around here say the same thing, "doubt you'll see it again". Finding it would take some kind of effort! All they want is the east money.....drunk drivers and speeding tickets
 
When I was a mechanic's helper ( Assistant Service Specialist) Part of my job was to bring in the tractors after I had steam cleaned them. I kept a "tractor key" in my pocket/ P.S. I liked the job title but was not impressed with the abbreviation.
 
We got a druggy here who gets caught with stolen property ever couple of years. Gets arrested, hauled in and locked up for a few days, makes bail then never seems to serve any real time locked up. But almost like clock work a couple of months after he is arrested there is a drug dealer that gets arrested. So most of us are thinking that he's turning in his supplier every time for getting off with little or no jail time. Most of us are getting pretty tired of the thief getting off.

Rick
 
I'll tell you this much based on 20 plus years of chasing crooks- if you start losing stuff around your place, especially stuff from your garage or shop or outbuildings, and especially your home, look at "friends" or your kids friends that have been around lately that didn't used to be. Seemed like 9 times out of 10 the burglaries and larcenies had someone pretty well known to the victim involved. The perfect stranger crook that manages to go into your shed and take the new chainsaw that is behind the 2 mowers and the weedwhacker? Not a chance! It's your kids buddy or your neighbor or the guy who was with your cousin last week.
 
Rick,
My jail is too full. It's not the cop, but the judge or prosecutor that lets them go after money is slid under the table. We have too many tables that have to be replaced by money being slid under them.
George
 
One time had an old tractor at a 2 day show, come nite and didn't want to haul the tractor back home overnite so being close to an old outhouse, took a long chain and tied my old tractor to it, came back next morning and the chain was cut and the outhouse was gone
 
Lots of stuff gets shipped to Mexico. The KC Auto auto auction sends 20-30 vehicles a week to Mexico. They pull one car with the engine idling while driving the other. I see adds all the time in Grass and Grain for people looking for older equipment - it all goes to Mexico too. We just salvaged a bunch of old equipment from a waste water plant - instead of scrapping it all we found a buyer that was shipping it to Mexico - more tripled our expected salvage sale on the project. Once in the while they like to get something new.

Then as mentioned below there is always the lazy sheriff that doesn't want to be bothered with solving a crime. A person gets pulled over for DUI and there are 4 cars with flashing lights working the crime of the century, call them about a theft and they'll ask you to fax in a form.
 
I installed a tracking device in my horse trailer after I had the living quarters put in. Cost about $400.00. Trailer was appraised last year for $23,000. I think its money well spent.

If the trailer moves more than 100 yds, I get a text and email. Device will send a location signal every hour until the trailer becomes stationary for over an hour. Then its one signal every 24 hrs until the trailer moves again.

Battery lasts about 3 yrs depending on how many signals are sent. Plan on upgrading next yr when battery needs replacing.

Check out the website: trackwhatmatters.com
 
Best anti-theft device I ever heard of was in Houston many years ago.

There was a pawn shop that thieves liked to break into. The owners tried several surveillance, anti-theft devices with no luck. Since the owners were a couple of good ol' Tx boys, they came up with a pretty unique theft deterrent.

The purchased a large aquarium, placed it in the front window, built a secure lid and placed two large rattle snakes in the aquarium. They posted signs above the aquarium and on all doors saying: Snakes are turned loose at closing time" and they really did turn them loose.

The store made the news and the reporter asked the owner how he opened up in the morning. The owner said "very carefully".

The pawn shop was never broken in to again.

Of course this story is nearly 30 yrs old now. If anyone did this today and a thief got tagged by one of the snakes, the owners would be sued.
 
Well... that sheriff ain't gonna do nothing about it... Best move on from him and go up the food chain.
Personally... I think it should be legal to shoot thieves on sight and leave their carcass to rot where they fell... or at least dump them where the coyotes will clean them up.

Rod
 
A lot of tractors, landscaping machines and even lawn mowers etc. here in Denmark are now beeing chipped so they can be GPS tracked. I think most of it is found by the German police when the thieves are hauling it through Germany on their way to their destiny in Poland or another east European country.
 

If you choot em, make sure they are dead, then dig a hole and bury them. Then dont ever mention it to a soul.

Otherwise you be either sued for all you got, or put in prison for life.


Gene
 
The problem with recovery of off-road equipment is not a new one, anywhere. Unless there is something to "go on", law enforcement probably just does not have any direction to investigate. Cops very seldom get the opportunity to check serial numbers of equipment unless they develop information that leads them to believe that equipment is stolen. Cops just, for the most part, never come into contact with off-road equipment.

Back when I worked vehicle thefts, we recovered (in one shape or another)over 90 percent of cars and pickups stolen in our county. On the other hand, I doubt that we ever located more than 10 percent of the tractors, farm equipment and construction equipment that was reported stolen. Those reported stolen vehicles from that time that had serial numbers are STILL probably listed as stolen in NCIC all these years later.

It could be that your missing equipment went to Mexico or some other far away location--maybe that is what is happening these days. But I would sure keep my eyes open and looking around your own area. You might see it somewhere, and you, as a private citizen, could probably do more toward verifying that what you see is, or is not your missing loader, than a cop could do. The cop has to follow legal procedure--probably get a search warrant if he can develop probable cause, to even go on private property to LOOK at a machine. I would just go look at the machine and if it is your machine, then call for law enforcement and let them sort it out. There might be an interesting story about how the machine came into their possession. But in the end, you would most likely get your machine back.

I always wished there was a good way to improve our recovery rate for off-road equipment, but never came up with a very effective plan. We just never had much contact with the stuff that was not going down the roads. Good luck!
 
This is kind of OT, Tractor wise but it does involve theft. I had a new neighbor build on his wife's family place recently. We share a boundary line. Well, he's not from around here, he migrated South. He's always carrying a gun or two, can of mace, couple of knives etc. The guy is a hard core Conservative, and will tell ya about it. A few weeks back he shows up on my driveway driving a nice EZGO golf cart, full top cover with a heater. He starts bragging about how little he paid for it. $500 delivered to his place. The seller didn't have the battery charger. Anyone with the sense that God gave a billy goat would have to see it was stolen. Our county has an anonymous crime stoppers number but I'm not sure about calling them. What would any of you folks do?
 
I have some friends that belong to a big car club. A few years ago they had their national meet in Indy. Several collector cars were stolen from the host hotel parking lot one night. I think it was 5 cars. The police took statements, looked at the hotel security camera tapes and said they would make a report. The car club members raised a big fuss. They wanted the police to investigate. Apparently the police thought looking at the tape was all there was to investigating. A couple of them even made comments along the lines of what's the big deal, they were just old cars. WRONG thing to say to people that spent years restoring their cars! The victims and other club members kept pressure on the city and state police. 3 cars were recovered and returned to their owners. Parts of another car were recovered. The last car was believed to have been shipped to a middle eastern country.
None of the cars would have been found if the owners and their friends hadn't continually pressured the police. The cars and parts that were recovered, were found in the Indy area.
 
(quoted from post at 16:44:45 11/26/13) The problem with recovery of off-road equipment is not a new one, anywhere. Unless there is something to "go on", law enforcement probably just does not have any direction to investigate. Cops very seldom get the opportunity to check serial numbers of equipment unless they develop information that leads them to believe that equipment is stolen. Cops just, for the most part, never come into contact with off-road equipment.

Back when I worked vehicle thefts, we recovered (in one shape or another)over 90 percent of cars and pickups stolen in our county. On the other hand, I doubt that we ever located more than 10 percent of the tractors, farm equipment and construction equipment that was reported stolen. Those reported stolen vehicles from that time that had serial numbers are STILL probably listed as stolen in NCIC all these years later.

It could be that your missing equipment went to Mexico or some other far away location--maybe that is what is happening these days. But I would sure keep my eyes open and looking around your own area. You might see it somewhere, and you, as a private citizen, could probably do more toward verifying that what you see is, or is not your missing loader, than a cop could do. The cop has to follow legal procedure--probably get a search warrant if he can develop probable cause, to even go on private property to LOOK at a machine. I would just go look at the machine and if it is your machine, then call for law enforcement and let them sort it out. There might be an interesting story about how the machine came into their possession. But in the end, you would most likely get your machine back.

I always wished there was a good way to improve our recovery rate for off-road equipment, but never came up with a very effective plan. We just never had much contact with the stuff that was not going down the roads. Good luck!
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Now Hal, you can't go injecting common sense into this discussion! Everybody knows from watching years of NCIS, CSI, etc. that the cops got computerized record of everything and and everybody and pictures of their dogs and kids and great grandparents. All they have to do is take some DNA and some fingerprints off that tree branch and pop it into their pocket DNA/Fingerprint reader and the ID of the crook, along with pictures of his house, wife, kids, his entire life history, school records, bank records, phone records, etc will all pop up without a warrant being required. Then the cops get their SWAT team together and raid the BG's place, without any warrant again, and get everyone stuff back because BG's never get rid of anything they steal.

Yup, see it on TV 12-15 times a day. It must be real......
 
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