We all know there are different definitions of 'restored' tractors.The ones thaI am talking of are the 'over restored' ones with emron paint,lost of chrome,all of the brass,etc polished.....They look nice but are not accuret.I get the feeling the restorer is saying "look at me,I spent a lot of money"....I am not impressed...We all know that belts,hoses etc were painted at the factory.Give me a more realistic restore or even one in their everyday clothes with all the imperfections and farmer 'customizations'.That is what I enjoy more...
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I feel ya. I'm not into a ultra high finish on paint. Clearcoat on a user tractor is a bit overkill. All that said I still like a tractor without painted belts and without overspray on the tires.
Obviously tractor manufactures of the time took more pains with tractors to be put on display at large events. I think that would be the look that I would be going for. No paint on belts, tires, sparkplugs, wires, distributor cap and such. I just feel like ive done sloppy work if I paint such things. It's a personal thing.
As for polished brass; It would have been new when the tractor was new. My guess is that if the tractor didnt sit at a dealership very long its possible that the brass would not yet be tarnished.
Obviously tractor manufactures of the time took more pains with tractors to be put on display at large events. I think that would be the look that I would be going for. No paint on belts, tires, sparkplugs, wires, distributor cap and such. I just feel like ive done sloppy work if I paint such things. It's a personal thing.
As for polished brass; It would have been new when the tractor was new. My guess is that if the tractor didnt sit at a dealership very long its possible that the brass would not yet be tarnished.
Tx Jim
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That Foose 4020 was a huge waste of $$$$$$$$$$. It just went POOF.
I like them in all phases. The over restored tractors in my mind are not only just the cost but it takes some real talent to modify tractors to look like a hot rod and not look botched up. A restored tractor to the exact way they came out of the factory also takes talent and attention to detail above most so called restored tractors.
I really don't care what someone does with or to a tractor as long as it isn't mine.
I don't really go to tractor shows too often. Gee, look at that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H......
Rick
I don't really go to tractor shows too often. Gee, look at that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H and that H......
Rick
Thats a fun topic here. I like a clean unrestored original, still working or light use, whatever.
Sometimes I like a nicely done original, from a clean, complete unrestored status.
I think many appreciate modifications that are neatly and or correctly done for a purpose, those are always interesting for the purpose they were intended, I don't particularly like a cob job modification, sloppy or poor welds, not really thought out etc.
I don't mind a restoration with a nice paint job, mechanically sound, or a total dis-assembly, ground up restoration. Paint may not have been that quality from the factory, but they sure look nice or bring out out the "beauty" of a favorite tractor model. There are so many ways to look at this.
I don't care for a sugar coat job, just paint and aesthetics, the tractor needs to be field ready, in good working order, its nice to keep them up and looking good, even if its a plain old worker in the feed lot or manure, you will still appreciate it more, maybe clean it and maintain this status.
I for one am not into all the chrome and or bells and whistles, nor a purist freak either, there is nothing like a visible well made effort to maintain the original integrity of the factory model or a nicely done modification, like your recent acquisition, the tractor looks and performs fine, and its got character with the age of the paint and similar aesthetic wear. It could be freshly painted and new decals, but to satisfy me, it would have to be field ready to appreciate that extra mile to make it look good. Aesthetics does not get you productive hours in the field, restored or not, to me thats the priority.
Sometimes I like a nicely done original, from a clean, complete unrestored status.
I think many appreciate modifications that are neatly and or correctly done for a purpose, those are always interesting for the purpose they were intended, I don't particularly like a cob job modification, sloppy or poor welds, not really thought out etc.
I don't mind a restoration with a nice paint job, mechanically sound, or a total dis-assembly, ground up restoration. Paint may not have been that quality from the factory, but they sure look nice or bring out out the "beauty" of a favorite tractor model. There are so many ways to look at this.
I don't care for a sugar coat job, just paint and aesthetics, the tractor needs to be field ready, in good working order, its nice to keep them up and looking good, even if its a plain old worker in the feed lot or manure, you will still appreciate it more, maybe clean it and maintain this status.
I for one am not into all the chrome and or bells and whistles, nor a purist freak either, there is nothing like a visible well made effort to maintain the original integrity of the factory model or a nicely done modification, like your recent acquisition, the tractor looks and performs fine, and its got character with the age of the paint and similar aesthetic wear. It could be freshly painted and new decals, but to satisfy me, it would have to be field ready to appreciate that extra mile to make it look good. Aesthetics does not get you productive hours in the field, restored or not, to me thats the priority.
Restoration is a very misapplied term. My interpretation of restored is, completely disassembled, and returned to factory specifications.
None of my tractors have been restored. They have all been cleaned up, painted, resealed, the worst issues repaired and modernized where I wanted to. I am happy with this, but would not intend on selling them as restored.
None of my tractors have been restored. They have all been cleaned up, painted, resealed, the worst issues repaired and modernized where I wanted to. I am happy with this, but would not intend on selling them as restored.
Anonymous-0
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In 1972, my dad bought a new Oliver 1655 gas at the Indiana State Fair. The Oliver dealer that had the tractor had had nearly everything that could be unbolted chromed. Even the cast iron grill had been polished smooth and chrome plated. This was the nicest looking Oliver I had seen before or since. The panel on the hood sides that said "Oliver 1655" had been done in engine turned stainless with black letters. The "Over/Under Hydraul Shift" decal changed colors in the sun. I have a picture of this tractor and a new Oliver baler someplace. The baler was forgettable, and a total pile of crap. But that old Oliver was my prize possession for several years. If I ever got my hands on another like it, I would "restore" it just like that one was. IIRC, that tractor cost way less than $10,000 new. The chrome bill to chrome all that was chromed on that tractor would be that much, I'm sure. What would you call a tractor like that? Restored? Hot rodded? Dad had bought an 880 from this dealer in the early 60's that had been done much the same way.
RandyB(MI)
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Since that would require a couple gallons of NOS (new original stock) paint and also NOS decals or original silk screening amoung other things, then it would be safe to say there aren't any "restored" tractors. No one paints a bare steel tractor without primer and intentionally gets runs and bare spots. Just sayin'.
Tom OConnor
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This is the wonderful thing about this hobby. Everyone has their preferences. As a kid growing up many years ago it was a big day when the dealer delivered a new tractor to the farm. My personal preference is to have that tractor look and run just like it did the day it was delivered. It can be compared to looking at old cars, do you go to a junk yard to see them, a used car lot or a fine museum.
Paul from MI
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I enjoy looking at a tractor that has been restored to original as much as possible, correct magneto & carb., no 12 volt alternator, added hydraulics, etc., and good sheet metal and paint. It takes an awful lot of work to get to that level most of the time. But my two family tractors are rebuilt mechanically to good operating condition,everything works, and the sheet metal has been repaired. The modifications made by Dad and Grandpa are still on them, so they are just as the day they were being used. It's just my way of remembering how they were when we used them every day.
omahagreg
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I am an Allis Chalmers fan. Maybe 5 years ago they had a tractor show featuring AC in Pierce Nebraska. Young fellow had a WD45 diesel there with 6 or 7 wheel weights on each side. Seemed odd-come to find out it was THE Nebraska test tractor, and that is how it was set up for that test. Pretty cool when you get the whole story! I am telling you, that one was SHARP!
I actually sort of enjoy seeing them at the tractor shows. Just another form of art and a flawless paint job on flawless tin is just a show of affection for some old iron that we all sort of hold in high regard in one way or another.
My old ford is getting reconditioned one break down at a time but I hope the day comes when her tin shines again...just because.
My old ford is getting reconditioned one break down at a time but I hope the day comes when her tin shines again...just because.
You folks in the drier climates are very lucky.
When an old tractor sits outside here in Pa.
for 25 years there isn't much left to the sheet
metal. If the A I am working on looked like
yours I would leave it alone.. But it didn't/
doesn't. So when I must buy other body panels
then nothing will come close to matching, thus
after the engine/trans & rear end check &
rebuild it will get paint.....
When an old tractor sits outside here in Pa.
for 25 years there isn't much left to the sheet
metal. If the A I am working on looked like
yours I would leave it alone.. But it didn't/
doesn't. So when I must buy other body panels
then nothing will come close to matching, thus
after the engine/trans & rear end check &
rebuild it will get paint.....
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