ok i put a starter on a 2006 dodge cummins 2 days ago, the old one was bad and when done the truck started just fine, now the truck has not moved or been started, and all i get is a hard click, batteries are fully charged any ideas where to look? how does it break with nobody even in the truck
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Michael Soldan
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Check your connections..they can fool ya.
cole in mo.
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It may have been rebuilt in indoslovia or some place like it, and is only good for one start.
guido
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Hello ericb,
Now you get to be a detective. Get out your volt meter and start at the battery posts. Inside the post and outside same voltage? Does it have a solenoid switch? check the voltage after the solenoid is engaged. Check the voltage reaching the starter, and try cranking the engine and see what the voltage is, 9 to 10 volts will run the starter. Its either you have a bad cell on the battery, or a bad connection. If it was the starter , it would have bot worked the first time. Try keeping the starter engaged for a few seconds. Any loose connection will be HOT! Battery voltage should be 12.6V at 80 degrees F. this will give you something to start with. Let us know what you find..... My e-mail is always open,
Guido.
Now you get to be a detective. Get out your volt meter and start at the battery posts. Inside the post and outside same voltage? Does it have a solenoid switch? check the voltage after the solenoid is engaged. Check the voltage reaching the starter, and try cranking the engine and see what the voltage is, 9 to 10 volts will run the starter. Its either you have a bad cell on the battery, or a bad connection. If it was the starter , it would have bot worked the first time. Try keeping the starter engaged for a few seconds. Any loose connection will be HOT! Battery voltage should be 12.6V at 80 degrees F. this will give you something to start with. Let us know what you find..... My e-mail is always open,
Guido.
Prolly a bad rebuilt starter, I had a bad altanator from napa, it wouldent charge, I put a scratch on it, took it back, they said they tested it and it was fine, only the one they gave back to me was not scratched. Just some pos rebuilt in god knows were that wasent done right. On a good note I bought a muffler for my Dakota today that was made in the USA! Lol
Goose
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I was once an outside salesman selling reman starters and alternators, among other stuff.
At that time, the national failure rate for all reman starters was 8.8%. If a reman starter made it through the first dozen cycles, it would go forever.
BTW, when I started the job, the failure rate for my company was 16.2%. When I quit the job several years later, it was 6.8%. The rebuilders didn't like me. They were used to salesmen being dips who just sold whatever they chose to produce. They weren't ready for a salesman in a dress shirt and tie walking in their plant, throwing a starter or alternator on the bench in front of them, and tearing it down and showing them where they'd screwed it up.
At that time, the national failure rate for all reman starters was 8.8%. If a reman starter made it through the first dozen cycles, it would go forever.
BTW, when I started the job, the failure rate for my company was 16.2%. When I quit the job several years later, it was 6.8%. The rebuilders didn't like me. They were used to salesmen being dips who just sold whatever they chose to produce. They weren't ready for a salesman in a dress shirt and tie walking in their plant, throwing a starter or alternator on the bench in front of them, and tearing it down and showing them where they'd screwed it up.
Mathias NY
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Bad ground cable?
Anonymous-0
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it aint Dodges fault !...btdt ...spent a weekend in denial thinkin " it couldn't be the starter" ...just replaced auto zone starter that I put in the95 Cummins in march 2011 ,,never did sound rite crankin ,I agree with try it 3 times before declarin fixed.../auto zone made it rite ..original starter lasted 300,000 mi until 2011
Billy Shafer
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Friend of mine had a starter/alternator rebuild shop in Dallas. He was contacted by a major chain store. To do rebuilds for them. But they wanted them out fast and cheap. So he turned them down.
Of the 37 gazillion "fail to starts" I've had over the years, almost all of them were found to be corrosion/loose fitting issues, especially if I got a "click" or any kind on trying to start. Yes, starters and solenoids die, usually in a heavy snow storm when you desperately need to be someplace else. But loose cable ends throughout the system are the culprit most of the time. In fact, I've had batteries die more often than starters themselves.
Ford trucks have a 1/4 inch flag terminal on the starter solenoid that turns green from road salt.Ive had to get out and get under to move the wire a few times.Ford has a ring terminal fix but it cant be used on all starters.These new starters look like sewing machine motors.They can be repaired.Could be the old starter is ok.It may be a solenoid problem, The Ford has two solenoids.Never looked at a Cummins starter so I cant comment on how to check it.
Anonymous-0
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you relaced a supposedly bad starter with a remam and it doesn't work, could this be a pattern?
Blackhole49
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Your luck is way lousier than mine. I have always done my own maintenance and usually had beaters. In 44 years of experience, I haven"t replaced 6 starters (none failed) and 2 of them were on tractors.
Anonymous-0
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Hello Bret4207,
That is why I suggested a voltage check at the starter. Then he can go form there assuming the battery is good.
Guido.
That is why I suggested a voltage check at the starter. Then he can go form there assuming the battery is good.
Guido.
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