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Thrower problems.

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JayinNY

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I got out of work at noon today, went to farm to finish baling hay and had problems with my thrower. It would either throw, not throw as in pic at throw late and get caught on the out coming bale? The trip rod was bent so I leved it out as seen in second photo. I can't figure out why it works some times and not others, any ideas?
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I haven't talked to Jim in awhile, last I knew he had a foot infection! What happened to the 1690?
 
Check all the linkage out. If it is sticking it will not trip the hydraulic valve. Also make sure the belt is tight. I have had them be loose and the valve trip an the belt slip rather than throw the bale.

Will it throw right if you manually trip the thrower with the lever??? IF is does then it is the bale linkage.

Also have had the valve spool itself get sticky. They usually are not hard to figure out. The trouble is you usually are right in the middle of baling when they act up.
 
Thanks JD. Yes manual trip works fine, I tried adjusting the linkage but it won't go any shorter, it seems like it's tripping to late, when the trip at the end of the thrower is almost horizontal.??
 
Once upon a time, long ago, as a young man, I serviced a JD baler in the winter. The kicker worked fine when tripped by hand.
The first time out with the baler on a beautiful Jun. day, I had run to the hospital for the birth of our first child(daughter). When I got back, they hadn't gotten much done. Finally they had stuck a board under the back of the baler and a guy was riding along tripping the kicker manually! Of course the implication was it was all my fault- new young hired man, etc. I took a look and discovered the trip arm up by the valve was frozen up on the bushing. I loosened the bolt and let it pivot on that for the rest of the day.
Apparently a good push by hand gave it just enough more movement to trip.
I quit that job a couple months later. I didn't like being surrounded by idiots.
 
Jay I would be that your linkage is tuck some where. That is what bent the cross trip when it did not trip and the bales pushed it down. Check out all of the linkage and pivots real close. They have to be totally free or it will not work right.

Also rod #20 is held into tube #14 with roll pins. You can change the length with these roll pins. I have also seen the roll pins sheared if the linkage sticks.

The 30 ejector is a simple machine other than the hydraulics. Your issue seems to be mechanical rather than hydraulic.
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That's what I think too, the bars in your pic #18 are also bent on my thrower, if you zoom in on my 2nd pic you may be able to see them. I'm gonna look at it again tomarrow. Thanks for you time and help.
 
I just got off the phone with Jim, he was in hospital for a week, his white 2-85 is down and the case 1690, he's using the case 630 and 400 to do hay, and he is using a neighbors tractor. I guess he's had his share of bad luck this season! I gotta stop up and visit him one of these days!
 
We always had JD Balers starting with the 336.
JD Seller had some good ideas. With no bale on the pan and obviously no power, try tripping the
kicker by hand using the lever the bale uses.
Onetime I had bent the support you are mentioning and it bound the pipe and attached lever(the thing the bale hits). It takes very little binding to kick late. The Binding in any of the linkages delays kicking. I think it kicks late because the baler bounces a lot and kicker frame flexes just right at times to let it kick late.
Another thing the lever that trips the valve might be binding at the bottom bolt(previously mentioned). Also, the detent in the front of the valve might have some rust and dry grease in it.
Remove and clean, grease and replace.
I started using these kickers since they came out in the 70s. Beat a few to death over the years. I think I am starting to take up to much space here. If you want to give me a call, my cell is 585-944-2461. Live in Western New York.
Call anytime.
 
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