Just put a loader on the tractor... Gotta have MORE REAR WEIGHT.... Was just curious if anybody has already done the research on loading the rear tires with calcium versus RV Antifreeze.. RV anti freeze is about $4 a gallon. I dunno the cost for calcium nor do I know the weight difference between calcium and RV antifreeze. I do know the RV antifreeze not rotting out the wheels is a notch on the plus side.... Any thoughts guys?
- Thread starter Duetzfan
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I think in round numbers CC is 10 lbs (depends how you mix it tho) vs antifreeze close to 6 lbs per gallon.
Here in Minnesota I couldn't afford enough antifreeze, much less what the light weight of it, nor the liability of contaminating property or my tire company's tank with the antifreeze.
Other folk wouldn't touch CC and that is cool, we all have our preferences.
Paul
Here in Minnesota I couldn't afford enough antifreeze, much less what the light weight of it, nor the liability of contaminating property or my tire company's tank with the antifreeze.
Other folk wouldn't touch CC and that is cool, we all have our preferences.
Paul
Fullers Farmalls
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I got 140 gallons of used calcium for $40. it was close to 1500lbs. You can buy the calcium cheap but you do have the risk of rim rot if you have a leak and dont catch it. Its all up to you but calcium is the cheapest and heaviest.
buickanddeere
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Approx the difference between an empty and full fuel tank.
The windshield washer fluid or RV fluid can be diluted some.
The windshield washer fluid or RV fluid can be diluted some.
Bob Bancroft
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- Location
- Aurora NY
Several years ago I got a new to me tractor in the spring and needed weight fast. Dealer delivered and pumped 100 gal. rim guard into each of four tires. 400 gal. About 4000#. $1700 if I remember correctly.
old
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- Location
- Camdenton Missouri
I use wiper fluid winter grade since you do not want ice in a tire thing tend to go bad with ice in them. Wiper fluid can be found for around $2 a gal. Also if you have a 3 point hitch what helps is having a heavy machine on the 3 point and maybe add some weights to that. I run a back blade with 6 85lbs suit case weights and a 150lbs wheel weight on it plus fluid in the tires
Ultradog MN
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- Twin Cities
I think calcium has a worse reputation than it deserves. Mostly from folks who complain that they only got 60 years out of an original rim because of it.
Myself I prefer cast iron weights but they're probably easier to find for my Fords than your Duetz.
Myself I prefer cast iron weights but they're probably easier to find for my Fords than your Duetz.
Fordfarmer
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The weight of CaCl solution can be varied, depending on how much CaCl is added to the water when it is mixed. Generally, you can figure on 12 lbs. per gallon, compared to slightly less than 8 lbs. per gallon for RV antifreeze. CaCl solution was around $2/gallon last time I checked with our local tire shop.
I agree with Ultra about CaCl getting a worse than deserved reputation. It only corrodes rims if it leaks... and if the leak is fixed promptly and the CaCl is washed off, it's not a problem.
I agree with Ultra about CaCl getting a worse than deserved reputation. It only corrodes rims if it leaks... and if the leak is fixed promptly and the CaCl is washed off, it's not a problem.
Deutzfan, There is a chart at__ www.external_link __ that has been floated through the Boards here, from time to time! It will give you an approximate gallons/tire; by tire size! and approx wt @ a water wt of 8lbs/gal!
Hope this helps.
Personally I prefer Cast wt!... NO Sr-Charge when you have to call out a tire truck to fix a flat, for the water has to be pumped off first to fix the flat then pumped back in when finished! My thoughts!
Later,
John A.
Hope this helps.
Personally I prefer Cast wt!... NO Sr-Charge when you have to call out a tire truck to fix a flat, for the water has to be pumped off first to fix the flat then pumped back in when finished! My thoughts!
Later,
John A.
Steve A W
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- Location
- Northwest Indiana
Here's a link to that chart.
http://www.external_link/blog/post/Liquid-Tire-Ballast-Chart.aspx
Steve A W
Tire liquid capacity
http://www.external_link/blog/post/Liquid-Tire-Ballast-Chart.aspx
Steve A W
Tire liquid capacity
Tom OConnor
Member
There is a product called Rim Guard that a lot of tire shops are now using. You might check this out
fixerupper
Well-known Member
My 1086 with Westendorf WL42 loader has five 150lb. weights per wheel-three on the inside of the wheel and two on the outside. For the kind of loader work I do it works fine but I'm not in muddy cattle yards anymore. For pushing snow I hang a 1300 pound cement weight on the back. I just pick it up with the quick hitch and go. I had cal in the tires on this tractor for the first maybe 10000 hours and it did give good traction, but after a rim split and shot fluid under the cab, rusting the shifting linkage tight, I got rid of the stuff. Jim
ryanwheelock
Member
Beet juice is the big thing here in my town for loaded tires.
Well I just went through this a few years back. In my area North Central Ohio. I found one place that could do rim guard. VERY EXPENSIVE.
Several other tire shops are all doing some variation of windshield washer fluid. They don't mess with calicum or rim guard anymore. The ones that did do rim guard gave up on it because it takes too long to pump it in and out in cold weather.
Those that say use cast iron are wrong because most loader tractors require far more weight for counter balance then you can get from just bolt on weights alone. Check your operator manuals. These newer lighter tractors with higher lift capacity's take ALOT of counter weight.
Several other tire shops are all doing some variation of windshield washer fluid. They don't mess with calicum or rim guard anymore. The ones that did do rim guard gave up on it because it takes too long to pump it in and out in cold weather.
Those that say use cast iron are wrong because most loader tractors require far more weight for counter balance then you can get from just bolt on weights alone. Check your operator manuals. These newer lighter tractors with higher lift capacity's take ALOT of counter weight.
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