jeremy in NE
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Does anybody have a general price for walnut trees to be sold for lumber? How big do the trees have to be? Thanks
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Janicholson
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No prices as they are way variable.
Three things make them high in price. Solid through the heart wood. Straight stem, and diameter. The best big, 20" or more, logs are cut for veneer and they are high value. Small logs in the 12 to 15 inch range have value, but are cut into dimension lumber.
Three things make them high in price. Solid through the heart wood. Straight stem, and diameter. The best big, 20" or more, logs are cut for veneer and they are high value. Small logs in the 12 to 15 inch range have value, but are cut into dimension lumber.
Jeremy This farm has about 35 older walnut trees and I have been looking into getting them sold. As Mr Jan said there seems to be a lot of difference in prices. First I have learned they only want them cut when the sap is down or late fall and winter. Then as Jan says the 24 in and larger are the high dollar trees. Most folks I have had look at these tell me they will have to be cut to really know (again as john says bad centers) what the value is. Was offred 25 thousand for the 35 trees about three years ago but am still working on getting the true value.
in reply to Janicholson, 09-03-2013 16:48:16
GlenIdaho wrote,
Don"t forget the stumps. They are used for veneer in Mercedes and other high end cars. Used to be a problem in Ca. Farmers would pull up their stumps and someone would steal them. They used to bring big $. May still.
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Yup,that's right and don't overlook croches above the log. Those are marketable to bowl tuners.
Walnut is graded at the mill and that's when actual value is known. The sawer usualy offers a price based on low grade and hopes for higher grade when he sells them. Not much different to how feed lot operations sell beef.
GlenIdaho wrote,
Don"t forget the stumps. They are used for veneer in Mercedes and other high end cars. Used to be a problem in Ca. Farmers would pull up their stumps and someone would steal them. They used to bring big $. May still.
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Yup,that's right and don't overlook croches above the log. Those are marketable to bowl tuners.
Walnut is graded at the mill and that's when actual value is known. The sawer usualy offers a price based on low grade and hopes for higher grade when he sells them. Not much different to how feed lot operations sell beef.
teddy52food
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Crouches are also used for gun stocks if you saw them right.
waltdavies
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When I lived in Southern Oregon I watched these Idiots cut down a four to five foot black walnut tree then cut it up for fire wood. It made me sick to see that much money and beautiful wood go up the chimney.
Wish now I would stopped and told them how money they loosing it could have kept their house warm for years to come.
Walt
Wish now I would stopped and told them how money they loosing it could have kept their house warm for years to come.
Walt
Jeremy----market your walnut to get a fair price.
Therefore, if I were in your shoes, I would hire a professional consulting forester to mark, scale, and appraise the trees you want to sell.
Ask them to determine your cost basis (what the trees were worth when you bought the property).
You could get some nice tax benefits if you know how to sell your timber the correct way, which includes knowing your timber cost basis.
A consulting forester has a 4yr. degree and you should be able to find one thru your state forestry department.
The folks I use will draw up a prospectus, which will show how many board feet the sale is, market to responsible loggers for sealed bids, and help with a recommendation if you ask for one.
An eight acre walnut sale I was involved in recently had estimates that were $20,000 apart from low to high bid.....owner was glad to pay the few hundred for the professional help....
PS---I wouldn't do any sale on a share percentage basis...
Tim
Therefore, if I were in your shoes, I would hire a professional consulting forester to mark, scale, and appraise the trees you want to sell.
Ask them to determine your cost basis (what the trees were worth when you bought the property).
You could get some nice tax benefits if you know how to sell your timber the correct way, which includes knowing your timber cost basis.
A consulting forester has a 4yr. degree and you should be able to find one thru your state forestry department.
The folks I use will draw up a prospectus, which will show how many board feet the sale is, market to responsible loggers for sealed bids, and help with a recommendation if you ask for one.
An eight acre walnut sale I was involved in recently had estimates that were $20,000 apart from low to high bid.....owner was glad to pay the few hundred for the professional help....
PS---I wouldn't do any sale on a share percentage basis...
Tim
Geo-TH,In
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I had a walnut tree cut down in my back yard. Most sawmills don't want anything to do with yard trees and they sure don't want to cut them down. A small time sawmill in my neighborhood took the tree after it was on the ground. The trunk was about 4 ft and there was about a good 14-16 log.
The guy wouldn't tell me how much he would give me untill he cut it up. Said the rings on a yard tree will be larger because it grows faster. The branches became firewood, but I didn't want to see the log turned into fire wood. I knew the guy and have bought ruff lumber off him many times. I told him take it and give me what he think it's worth after you cut it up.
A few months later, he sent me $300. That may not seem like a lot, but I was happy it didn't become firewood.
Then I had 5 16-18 ingh red oak logs, 8-10 ft. I took them to him and later he dropped me off a load of ruff red oak. Wish I would have gotten some walnut instead of the $300.
George
The guy wouldn't tell me how much he would give me untill he cut it up. Said the rings on a yard tree will be larger because it grows faster. The branches became firewood, but I didn't want to see the log turned into fire wood. I knew the guy and have bought ruff lumber off him many times. I told him take it and give me what he think it's worth after you cut it up.
A few months later, he sent me $300. That may not seem like a lot, but I was happy it didn't become firewood.
Then I had 5 16-18 ingh red oak logs, 8-10 ft. I took them to him and later he dropped me off a load of ruff red oak. Wish I would have gotten some walnut instead of the $300.
George
teddy52food
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I would guess he would have gotten around 600 BF of lumber depending on how it was tapered. Logs are measured on the small end.
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