charlespretzer Ks.
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Bought a Farmall Cub last week. It hadn't ran for a year, ran alittle rough, smoked alittle. tried Seafoam,It smoked alot then quit smoking & ended up running real smooth.Maybe I'll put it in everything!
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Switchflicker
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I've got only good things to say about Seafoam. I've also put it in the oil and done a couple of premature oil changes and the offending mower pulled through easier and thus started a lot easier.
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Seafoam contains naptha,rubbing alcohol and mineral oil.Grampa took mineral oil as a laxative.If you insist on using it mix your own.Alcohol is screwing up fuel lines and neoprene gasket in the gas cap on my tiller.Seafoam calls the mineral oil pale oil.You can buy naptha in any hardware store.Coleman fuel is naptha.rubbing alcohol is 30% water.You can buy isopropyl alcohol free of water if you want to mix your own
DENNIS MIN
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Huh?
I am not a chenmistry major...just dumb it down for me.Are you saying I can improvise at the hardware and get a decent carb cleaning liquid?
Not meaning any harm..
D.
I am not a chenmistry major...just dumb it down for me.Are you saying I can improvise at the hardware and get a decent carb cleaning liquid?
Not meaning any harm..
D.
Ultradog MN
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My hunting buddy just retired after running a small engine shop for most of 20 years.
He uses Seafoam in everything. Swears by it.
He uses Seafoam in everything. Swears by it.
No chem major needed.Just use 1/3 of each chemical and mix in a bottle.Seafoam costs about 80 buck a gallon.Mineral oil can be found in drug stores.I paid 2.50 for a quart of water free isopropyl alcohol.I keep acetone and naptha on hand.Fuel injector cleaner is a mix of alcohol and kerosene.
Hobo,NC
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Its about $30 a gal... whats in the cheap fuel injection cleaner I dunno,,, the good chit (Techron by Chevron) has a percentage of Techron in it normally around 33%... the Best is BG 44k its 100% Techron... You can not judge all fuel injection cleaners by the price you get what you pay for...
You may be right cuzz I know you are to cheap to buy the good chit...
To the original poster if I just brought a Farmall I knew nuttin about that smoked and ran a little weak I would at the least adjust the valves... All the cubs I have ever messed with were short on power they need all the help they can get...
Okay-So where exactly do you buy Naptha to make Sea Foam.
In petroleum engineering, full range naphtha is defined as the fraction of hydrocarbons in petroleum boiling between 30 °C and 200 °C.[1] It consists of a complex mixture of hydrocarbon molecules generally having between 5 and 12 carbon atoms. It typically constitutes 15–30% of crude oil, by weight. Light naphtha is the fraction boiling between 30 °C and 90 °C and consists of molecules with 5–6 carbon atoms. Heavy naphtha boils between 90 °C and 200 °C and consists of molecules with 6–12 carbons
I am a Chemist and I don't see how you can buy and mix 33 1/3% of each and come up with Sea Foam. Natha covers a wide range. Should we get the Naotha with the crude or the heavy Naptha. Also can we buy it at Walmart? LOL.
buickanddeere
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Ever thought just running that stiff dry engine that had gummed up combustion chambers, stuck rings and old gasoline in the fuel system. Ever consider that the engine would have warmed up without the snake oil and burned off the crude without the snake oil.
Here you are advertising snake oil and not even being paid.
Here you are advertising snake oil and not even being paid.
Nancy Howell
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I thought Coleman fuel was white gas. Is white gas the same as naphtha?
Also thought Seafoam was baby oil and alcohol, not mineral oil.
Not being ugly, just want to know.
Also thought Seafoam was baby oil and alcohol, not mineral oil.
Not being ugly, just want to know.
How many opinions have YOU formed based on simple cause/effect observations, with no scientific proof? I would dare guess that you've lost count.
How many things have you declared are "good" or "no good" based on ONE experience? Do you badmouth a particular brand of vehicle after having owned one once?
Truly, a case of, "Let he who has no sin cast the first stone." I'm guessin' that ain't you.
This guy put Seafoam in his tractor and it ran better. Without spending millions of $$$ on research and still coming up inconclusive, that's about as good as you're going to get as to whether a product is any good or not.
I've had good experiences with Seafoam myself. No amount of working, fresh gas, etc. was stopping my H from smoking. Put half a can of Seafoam up the intake, and it hasn't smoked a lick since.
buickanddeere
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Check your mailbox again for your royalty from Seafoam.
Guys--Don't take comments to heart. Life is way to short to get high blood pressure over someones opinion. I kind of figure most additives work like washing your car does. It makes me feel like it runs better after I wash it. As far as additives go
I know they sell millions of dollars worth of them yearly. I have tested hundreds of additives in the laboratory and very few do what they say they will. Sea Foam sure makes the engine put out a bunch of smoke. But never having torn an engine down after such a treatment, I can't really say whether it cleans internal parts up or not. It sure as heck does smoke a lot. Maybe that is becasue it is burning engine carbon deposits or maybe it is just the heavy naptha and mineral oil burning from the Sea Foam. My $.02 worth.
Texasmark1
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Hey blabber mouth. Get your foot out of your mouth and your brain in gear and you might just learn something. Course you know all there is to know about everything.......well, not everything. If in doubt just ask you right?
Pffffffft.
Mark
Pffffffft.
Mark
Texasmark1
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You aren't going to convince the die hard do nothing with nothing blow hards that snake oil works.
Course for those of us that have tried certain shake oils and have had stellar results, the gain is ours. I don't give a red flagged pfffft about the dubmasses that are non conformists. Their equipment and their loss.
Great stuff and will never be without it. I'm sold.
Mark
Course for those of us that have tried certain shake oils and have had stellar results, the gain is ours. I don't give a red flagged pfffft about the dubmasses that are non conformists. Their equipment and their loss.
Great stuff and will never be without it. I'm sold.
Mark
You can buy naptha at Walmart. Its called Coleman Fuel.Naptha is sold by the quart in hardware and paint store.You may be a chemist but you dont know where to shop.You started spelling naptha funny,are you foaming at the mouth?You can read Seafoams formula on the safety sheets.
I just did a search on white gas to make sure I was right.Wikipedia says white gas is a generic name for camp fuel.When I bought Coleman fuel for 5 bucks a gallon Walmart started selling a fuel called Ozark Trail for 3.50 a gallon.I still have a can left.I did repair work on Coleman lanterns and stoves for many years.I was using Coleman lanterns and stoves in the 50s.It was called white gas then and most gas stations had a barrel of white gas and kerosene so you could buy a few gallons.If you look up the msds sheets on coleman fuel you will see it contains naphtha.I spell the word wrong at times.I have Coleman parts in the shop now although Im retired at 75.My hearts bad and my eye sight sight is getting worse.I will remind all of you that coleman fuel puts out carbon monoxide when burning and should only be used out doors.
Hobo,NC
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Maybe advance likes me I get it somewhere in the $30 range...
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/we...m_campaign=enhancedrm&utm_content=7080146
A few times a year I get a fuel injected car with driveabilty issues that can only be resolved with combustion cleaner products ( if I never see a carburetor again it would not make me mad) ... I use a BG tool just for this and have had some luck giving the fuel tank a good dose when its low on fuel and having the customer drive it...
If you have been lucky enuff to never have issues that required a chemical to clean the top end of a engine good for you,,, the good stuff does work as does sea foam applied correctly...
Yep, same stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha
Baby oil IS mineral oil, baby oil is just scented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_oil You can google the exact amounts in SeaFoam but its made up of naptha, mineral oil and isopropyl alcohol. In practice, when you make it at home, its cheap so its really not critical how much of each is used. Also, since most gas already has 10% alcohol in it right from the pump, why put [b:08d0f4f2b9][i:08d0f4f2b9]more[/b:08d0f4f2b9][/i:08d0f4f2b9] in? Its only in SeaFoam to remove water from the tank (and thanks to the 10% mandate, we have none now) so I just leave it out.
Here is just one of the many, many sites that talks about making your own SeaFoam http://hildstrom.com/projects/seafoam/. I posted that link because it talks a little about the differences in naptha (light, heavy, bla bla bla... it all works the same by cutting the gunked up gas). Dont make it more than what it is, dump a little mineral oil in your empty SeaFoam can and fill the rest of it with naptha and call it a day.
Thanks for posting the hildstrom site.He did a thorough study of the subject at hand.Those posters who went ape should read it.A friend did some tests on separation of 2 cycle gas and oil mixes.He found that separation of oil,gas and alcohol did take place if samples sat on the shelf for a long time.The owner of a general store who sells chain saws said that anyone who uses 2 cycle engines should put a pint of their fuel mix aside and see if it separates into layers.
Chevron Techron MSDS sheet says Techron contains naphtha,stoddard solvent,benzene.I got lots of chemical info during the last 5 years on our fire dept.Policy is to get rid of old firemen as they often die of heart attacks fighting fires.Benzene is bad stuff as I remember.Stoddard solvent is a deoderized kerosene used by dry cleaners.Sold as mineral spirits or paint thinner.
Did a search on benzene.Far worse than I remember.Any mixture that has more than .1% benzene is considered a carcinogen or cancer causing agent.Aplastic anemia, bone marrow cancer. leukemia,It goes on and on.Dose the Techron label have any warnings on it? Use you computer to check out benzene at Wikipedia.
Hobo,NC
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Advance auoy parts has a one day sale today $4.95 a pint... Stock up and make some money....
Well, what I know is this- I've worked on lots and lots of gunked up engines. Usually it's a combo of old gas, water, rust, varnish and deteriorating fuel lines blocking up the passages in the carb. These are small engines or older ones, not injected. I've tried the various snake oils and most work to one degree or another. ATF, Berrymans and Sea Foam work best of what I've tried so far, in that order. With ATF I'm told it's the solvents and detergents and that makes sense to me. There are some types of gunk NOTHING will touch short of precision drilling of the passages.
As far as sticking valves, ATF comes out on top again. Back when I could get ATF for 88 cents a quart on sale I used a LOT of it. These days I cut it with diesel and try and stretch it.
As far as sticking valves, ATF comes out on top again. Back when I could get ATF for 88 cents a quart on sale I used a LOT of it. These days I cut it with diesel and try and stretch it.
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