Thirty or so years ago there was a concerted effort to get the swine and poultry producers to get their animals up off the ground where they contacted many diseases, some of which are harmful to consumers. Nowadays "free range" is all the rage with the Yuppie crowd. Are they courting with possible health hazards??
 
They are already under suspicion of being a MENTAL health hazard. Eating dirt might be good for what ails them???
 
It seems to me kind of like the whole hand sanitizer/antibacterial spray kind of thing. I believe it is better for us to have some dirt in our lives so our immune systems stay up to speed, and I imagine it is good for pigs and chickens to get out on dirt sometimes. Ours are in moving pens so that they are on a new spot every few days, there is no risk of them wandering off or getting where they are not wanted but they get the benefit of eating bugs and worms and plants instead of just their scientifically produced feed.
Zach
 
I think the best hens I ever saw were raised on open range.I worked at it for 3 years.Lots of labor involved,that probably made it drop out of favor.It was my job to open the shelters in the morning and close them at dusk.I filled the feeders and cleaned water pans.Hens eat a lot of grass on free range.My dad said the poultry diseases were not much of a problem when he was a boy.Trouble starts when you confine thousands of birds.95% of eggs are produces by caged layers.I refuse to eat eggs produced this way.I keep a few hens to avoid eggs from cage birds.If you think big is better lock a the recent recall on ground beef.50,000 pounds.Salad greens with fecal matter in the bags.My wife says it looks like the hippies and yuppies are right about food production.
 
The only downside of free range pigs or chichen is, to do this on a large enough scale to meet the martket demand the price would increas to the point where consumption would decline. And lets face it all governments want/have a cheap food policy. If food cost rise too high voters get pizzed,governments get truffed out of office. The economy will slow even more, because fools will not have extra cash to waste on toys...smart phones flat screen TV ect. And other junk from China. And who would benifit from all this? Just a bunch of undeserving farmers and tax paying working folk, like you and me. And that would not sit too well with the share holders of any major corp. Ok, so I am a bit cynical, and I put rual/farm folks first. Bruce
 
(quoted from post at 21:15:55 08/02/13) Have you noticed how many e coli outbreaks there have been from "organic" salad mix, lettuce and other green wienee vegetables?

Gene

Nope.

Rick
 
Our chickens are more healthy when they are able to get out of the coops. They have respiratory issues when we close up the coops for winter.

Mike
 
Instead of trying to stir the pot because some people think there are other ways of doing things why don't some of you bother to look up the research done by the AG departments of different universities? Many have really good AG departments and they have conducted a lot of studies on quality of finished product like meat and eggs.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 07:32:05 08/03/13) Salad from Mexico, is what I heard this am.
(CNN) -- Diners at Red Lobster and Olive Garden restaurants in Iowa and Nebraska caught an intestinal illness tied to a rare type of parasite after eating salad mix that came from Mexico, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said Friday.

The federal agency said its investigators traced the outbreak to four "illness clusters" of restaurants, which spokeswoman Theresa Eisenman later identified to CNN as Red Lobster and Olive Garden locations. The probe didn't find indications that any bags of salad mix with the parasite -- known as cyclospora -- were sold at U.S. grocery stores.

The tainted salad mix came from Taylor Farms de Mexico, "a processor of foodservice salads," according to the FDA.

Darden -- the parent company for Olive Garden, Red Lobster and other restaurant chains such as LongHorn Steakhouse -- described Friday's announcement from the FDA as "new information."
 
(quoted from post at 10:33:57 08/03/13) Instead of trying to stir the pot because some people think there are other ways of doing things why don't some of you bother to look up the research done by the AG departments of different universities? Many have really good AG departments and they have conducted a lot of studies on quality of finished product like meat and eggs.

Rick

Why dont you link us to some articles?
 
It's not so much where it comes from or how it's raised, but how it's processed. It used to be a place would get a head of lettuce, some cabbage, carrots, shred it and make a salad. If a head of lettuce has something in it, it stays pretty isolated.

Today they take a truckload of lettuce, couple crates of other stuff, then shred and mix it together. If one head of lettuce is bad, it's now contaminated a truckload and a half of other vegetables, and possibly the next batch they process.
 

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