OT/ Some People - Rant

Thursday, James cut the coastal hay field. It runs along Hwy 144. The dogs, Lola-Basset hound & April-mut, went with him.

He had just made a turn and was cutting along 144 when he happened to look back. Lola and April where in the right of way between the hwy and the field.

Some @#$% woman had stopped, had her car door open and was trying to get Lola to come to her.

He yelled for the dogs to come and luckily he was close enough for them to hear him over the tractor and came running. Don't know if the woman (doesn't rate being called a lady) heard him, but she left.

Lola has a chip and we would have reported her stolen, but that doesn't mean we would get our dog back.

Told James if it happens again to try and get a license plate and we'll report it to the sheriff.

Needless to say, I'm chapped about it.

Remember, someone took our other Basset, Bentley, back in October.

I don't often go off, but glad I wasn't there. It would not have been pleasant.

Was it possible she thought they weren't with your husband? Or was it pretty clear they were the farmer's dogs?

Some people aren't very observant.

I wouldn"t get all het up about it. If I saw a dog in the median of a divided hiway,I too would try to get the dog for his safety.
Seems every one in Texas is constantly worried about theft and crime. Theft wood be the last thing on my mind if I saw that.

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I don't think her dogs were in the median, she said between the field and and road.

OK Sorry for some reason I read median.

Same differnce J,they were on road right away and like others said someone who is a pet lover would maybe try to protect a STRAY DOG from being hit.I don't know about Texas laws,but a lot of places,it is against the law for a dog to leave your property unleashed.I don't agree with it,but some places,if your dog is running loose on your property(10A or 10,000A)you are in violation.Nancy is right but also wrong.

This happens more than people realize, I don't understand a thief and or their mentality, nor do I have much patience for same.

A few years back, while I was still working at our farm, my father had finally taken up residence there after the house was squared away. So finally someone is at the place full time, after years of not being so. Someone gave him a nice border collie pup, and they've become good friends, but he likes to run and to be frank is a pain in the butt, I like dogs, but I hate dealing with ones that run or are a real problem. Well he had been running the neighborhood, not too far but off the farm and I'll be..... right in front of me while repairing a paddock fence, he's along the side of the road and someone stopped and tried to snatch him I called and yelled, he did respond, I spoke to my father about it, had I gone after and caught the piece of crap that was going to do this...... like I said I do not have the patience, and hence my staying put, I know better. Still to this day, I cannot believe people do this right in front of you, had I not been there he'd have been gone. I don't particularly like any dogs around the barns while I am working with horses, they very create dangerous situations, so I always chased him to the house with an attitude, I am surprised he came back to me that day. They insist with all the horse people types that come to the place, and allow their dogs, its one of the reasons I left, one spooked one of our best and favorite horses, while I was taking a halter off, and he jammed my elbow into the flange of a stall gate, damaged the ulnar nerve and dropped me to my knees, yippy little herding dog from the down under, these do not belong in a barn, as they are trying to herd or something. My solution is very harsh and I would not hesitate, that persons dog would have been put down on the spot, I have no tolerance for this, probably best I left. I am thankful this horse is smart and soon realizes things after an initial scare, had it been another, it could have hurt so much worse or been fatal, people do not understand thoroughbreds, again reason I mention it, even as harsh as I was to this dog they tried to lure away, me always chasing him back to the house, he still knew something was up with these people, and there were 2, border collies are smart though you look at him wrong, he will pee on the floor, since a pup was just kind of a wimp, but thats fine, don't like em mean, and of course no matter how much I did chase him out, he still gets treated like a king, just not in the barns LOL !! Also on his behalf, we had the same horse I mentioned above colic real bad one cold winter afternoon and that border collie knew something was wrong way ahead of us, intently barking at the stall, was one of the worst and longest days I can recall there, a fast trip to Cortland, and a few thousand later, horse made it fine, no surgery thankfully, that dog knew what was up, and he was going down, I had all I could do to save this guy, cracked that whip and got him loaded, all 1400-1500 lbs of him LOL !

Try NYC or Chicago if you want to talk about theft and crime. Don't pick on Texas as you know not what you are talking about!

Mark

some people will steal anything they think they can, while there are leash laws in towns for obvious reasons out in the country our dogs are not decorations, they work as hard as we do hearding cattle and other stock as well as keeping various varmits at bay how would they do that if they were on a leash or pen, people should have sence enough to know if a dog is in the area of a human or farm buildings he probably lives there and is not lost, nor does he need to be picked up and hauled someplace

When the mower comes out the dogs go in the kennel. They are a bad combination.

I doubt she was trying to steal, more likely trying to save some dogs she thought were strays.

I understand what your saying about theft, and your right in that respect. However being a dog owner myself, I've got to speak up in the womans defense as NO ONE really KNOWS 100% what the womans motives were. If I were in her shoes and saw a dog (or two) standing beside the road like that I would probably stop also. If the dogs had a collar that means they belonged to someone and that someone might not know that their dogs were standing beside the highway. The only way to know who the dogs belonged to would be to get one, or the other, of them to come to you to look at the tag on their collar. With that info the owner might could be contacted, via cell phone, to get their animal before it got hit by a car. Beyond that the dog I would personally attempt to call would be the one that payed me the most attention and looked most likely to listen to me when I called it. In the case of this lady she might have felt better calling the cutest one, the least threatening one, etc, etc, which was trhe basset hound.

Just because I saw somebody out in a field on a tractor doesn't mean I'm automatically going to assume that the dog/dogs belong to that person. Personally I've seen dogs running free around everything from farm machinery to mining/construction equipment, and typically they stay out of the way, but there are occasinal accidents. In the case of someone doing something like cutting hay, I wouldn't think that person would have animals with them given how easy it would be to 'lose' the animal in the hay and hit them with the mower. It happens all the time to deer, and other animals, and could happen just as easily to a dog that was running free. Then add in the fact the dogs weren't oactually on your property but instead standing on a road right of way, and the whole idea of theft goes out the window. In other words had she come on your property and taken the dog it would have been theft, but had she picked up a stray standing beside the road, then it would not have been theft. Granted that would be more debatible had she taken a dog with a tag and then not contacted the owner, but either way a dog running free, and not on your property, is a stray, regardless.

In the end until you can prove what the woman was actually thinking, or the true intent behind her actions, in my view she has done absolutely nothing wrong.

(quoted from post at 16:06:22 06/21/13) I understand what your saying about theft, and your right in that respect. However being a dog owner myself, I've got to speak up in the womans defense as NO ONE really KNOWS 100% what the womans motives were. If I were in her shoes and saw a dog (or two) standing beside the road like that I would probably stop also. If the dogs had a collar that means they belonged to someone and that someone might not know that their dogs were standing beside the highway. The only way to know who the dogs belonged to would be to get one, or the other, of them to come to you to look at the tag on their collar. With that info the owner might could be contacted, via cell phone, to get their animal before it got hit by a car. Beyond that the dog I would personally attempt to call would be the one that payed me the most attention and looked most likely to listen to me when I called it. In the case of this lady she might have felt better calling the cutest one, the least threatening one, etc, etc, which was trhe basset hound.

Just because I saw somebody out in a field on a tractor doesn't mean I'm automatically going to assume that the dog/dogs belong to that person. Personally I've seen dogs running free around everything from farm machinery to mining/construction equipment, and typically they stay out of the way, but there are occasinal accidents. In the case of someone doing something like cutting hay, I wouldn't think that person would have animals with them given how easy it would be to 'lose' the animal in the hay and hit them with the mower. It happens all the time to deer, and other animals, and could happen just as easily to a dog that was running free. Then add in the fact the dogs weren't oactually on your property but instead standing on a road right of way, and the whole idea of theft goes out the window. In other words had she come on your property and taken the dog it would have been theft, but had she picked up a stray standing beside the road, then it would not have been theft. Granted that would be more debatible had she taken a dog with a tag and then not contacted the owner, but either way a dog running free, and not on your property, is a stray, regardless.

In the end until you can prove what the woman was actually thinking, or the true intent behind her actions, in my view she has done absolutely nothing wrong.

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YOU can bet you a$$ that the would be dog napper knew that they were NOT her dogs!

(quoted from post at 07:34:04 06/21/13) When the mower comes out the dogs go in the kennel. They are a bad combination.

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Gordo do you still mess with English Setters? My favorite breed.I agree on the mower comment.Same with chain saws.

For those of you who are giving this person "the benefit of the doubt" -

You"re driving along a rural, 2 lane country hwy, there are several houses in the vicinity. You see a dog about 10 feet off the road next to a field where a man is on a tractor. There is also a house bordering this field and 3 houses a short distance the other direction. Its not a large field, only 7 acres.

The dog is wearing a collar with tags. You are concerned about the dog"s safety. Do you try to get the dog to come to you or do you ask the man on the tractor if he knows who the dog belongs to? Or better yet, do you go to one of the houses bordering the field and ask if that is their dog?

Food for thought.

several years ago some dumb azz stopped his car along the road to take pictures of my cattle (Highland).
I saw what was happening and yelled at him and asked what do you think you are doing?
There is a cow in heat and that bull doesn't like what you are doing there. If you want some pictures I'll you get some. the sob flipped me off!

ericlb,
We live out in the country (Rural) and there is a LEASH LAW!! We do adhere to it at all times when our pal is out and about on foot. Our pal doesn't crap on other folks property and sure as h-ll we don"t enjoy stepping in poop from other dogs who enter our property. Remember a leash keeps em protected from nappers and cars, road machinery etc.Pets are OWNERS RESPONSIBILITIES!! No question about it. Having pets roam free doesn't make for any good situation, including law suits from dog bites. OH yea,I can hear it now"MY DOG DON"T BITE.As a young lad I underwent naval injections for rabies because the owners weren't sure (after waiting time)the dog had rabies shot.
Keep everyone safe folks, buy a leash, and USE IT.The argument about livestock just doesn't hold water here, let the livestock run loose and see what happens, I'm sure more than a few lawsuits for vehicle damage, neighbors damaged property, injuries from animals and human contact,etc will happen. Even though I love freedom,with animals of any type,they must be protected,thus the leash law and fences.
LOU

I would be they pay taxes to the center of that road

guess your in the eastern us, out here our neighbor is probably a mile or more and anybody demanding our working dogs be leashed here will probably wish he never had the idea , he may be the one on a leash for a day or so

Next animal guaranteed not to be picked up by strangers.lol.
LOU
poke here

ericlb,nope were in the midwest.Wisconsin.I hope for your sake, your dog won't bite a kid riding a bike,quadmoto,hiking,etc.Not saying dogs don't have a place for herding livestock,but for just generally running loose, they need to be on a leash.
LOU

She has an invisible leash , it's called having a smart dog . Never leaves my side .

Just my opinion, but dogs and mowers do not mix, will clip those legs off so fast you wouldn't believe it. And dogs in the road? You were asking for a problem.

Thesmoothedeere,
Nice looking puppy, The leash is called separation anxiety, our old Blue has that same leash inside the house, outside he is on the leash,where we belong to him.lol.
Regards, LOU

Agman48,
You're absolutely correct. Thanks for a common sense post.
Regards, LOU

I"m not Gordo but I"ve raised and trained English setters for years. Great bird dogs and companions and I"m somewhat partial to the tri-colored setters.

For what it's worth, I would make the assumption that the dogs were with whoever was on the tractor

You're right I don't want my dogs around when I'm mowing or bush hogging and don't let them go near the road.

I still really doubt that a woman stopping by dogs running loose in the ditch can be called a thief unless you know for sure she wasn't trying to save those dogs.

I will not take a dog with me when working with a sickle. Its ugly when legs get cut off critters. And yes it happens fast.

I think that if the lady was only interested in saving lost dogs, she would have waved to James when the dogs ran to him - that would have gone a long way to signfy her intent.

no kids on bikes or walkers were 10 miles fromthe nearest town, but these dogs even though loose are always near they never have just wandered , the do roam around the house looking for feral cats coons skunks ect to chase but even if im not outside there usually withing a 1/4 mile of the house never a problem they dont mind humans just other critters, but thats what there supposed to do its just different out here back in the nidwest one farm boarders anothe rpretty much here they still do but there can aslso be vast tracts of government land as well as large ranches of many square miles in size mostly just range no humans much of the land is dry and will support cattle or sheep but is not sutable for crop operations , we still get plenty of lost looky lou's but i dont worry on my dogs they know not to bother people

Wisconsin and Minnesota may be "midwest", but so is Chicago.

Trouble is you have some large population centers that control the legislature, and then there are large swaths that still aren"t that rural, and the urban mentality has a strong influence.

Frontier County: 3099 people on 975 acres, and 5 paved roads (outside our 5 towns, where over half the people live).

Chances your dog"s going to run into anyone let alone bite them out here is pretty slim. If they get bit, chances are they shouldn"t have been where they were to begin with.

And I figure if your dog goes and gets run over it was probably pretty dumb anyway.

I treat dogs as if they are 4year old children, if they are away from home with me, they are on a leash, there's just too many things can happen, from machinery accidents, ladys trying to "rescue" them and you never know, some kid might shoot them along side the road, and all it takes is just one bumper and they are gone,

when at home I have a invisible fence around the yard, but I still don't trust them 100% of the time, mabey if I was home all day long every day I could.