A little bit of a discussion going on over in implement alley on mower conditioners. I thought I would create a broader discussion here. I am taking one era, the 1970's, and asking who had the best mower/ baler team back then. John Deere had the 12XX mower and 3XX balers nearly all that decade. New Holland started the 1970's with the 46X haybine and 2XX balers and finished with the 47X haybine and 31X baler. IH started with the 990 mower 4X0 baler and finished with the 1190 mower and 4X5 baler. Of course other brands had their own entries. No right or wrong answer. Just a way to have some fun on a rainy evening. I would not be ashamed to have any of the above mentioned but will admit being partial to the Deeres. For a short while late in the decade Ford received the IH products to sell under the blue paint.
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47farmallM
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i love my new holland haybine but am very partail to my 1190 cutter... never have had a issue with it or the new holland... have never cared for john deere cutters at all..... but i do bleed ih all the way.
Dustin
Dustin
Anonymous-0
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can't beat a old IH bar rake.
For it's day,the Hesston PT10 was a decent mower/conditioner. Had a next door neighbor who had the very first haybine around here. This was before the Hesstons had a dealer around here,but they said they tried out everything available at the time,bought a New Holland because when they tried out all of them,the New Holland was the only one that didn't spit out a big wad of hay when they first started in at the end of the swath after turning around on the end. It left a smooth swath right from the start.
As far as square balers,even the hard core Deere guys usually ran New Holland balers.
As far as square balers,even the hard core Deere guys usually ran New Holland balers.
tn terry t
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I myself run two 472 newhollands and a 5 ft 165 haymaxx drum mower, 504 super I Vermeer roller tonnutti eight wheel rake plus a newholland 256 (I think that's the right number)rollerbar rake keeps my son and myself busy
I think the 1190 mower conditioner and 445 baler were underrated by many. If I were calling the shots and needed to do something about the year 1978 or 1979 they would get real serious consideration. Two really close IH dealers back then. One of the drawbacks about NH locally then is a person had to drive past an IH or Deere dealer in any direction considerably to reach one.
Anonymous-0
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My grandfather had a Allis Chalmers 82-T mower, and a NI 5 bar rake, that's it. He hired baling done. I Cut Hay with an Allis 160 bush hog, for a couple years, then got a 1207 JD conditioner. Sold the JD, and the old NI rake, coupla years ago, bought a Hay Max drum mower from the Hay Dr. Also bought a NH 256 rolabar rake. Would have been better off keeping the NI, methinks!
Nebraska Cowman
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I have pushed a lot of hay through the IH 430 440 and wore the paint off a brand new 435. They were hay eating sons a guns. The harder you pushed them the better they liked it. I've had kicker bales coming out 6 strokes to the bale.
Larry NEIL
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Oliver 720 baler still works goo and pretty fast too. NH 56 rake and started with a PT-10 conditioner. Wore it completely out and cut with a 9" Hesston 1090. All work great for my small acreage. (+- 35 acres)
We mow now with a Reese 2700 drum mower, thought it
would be cheaper to operate than a disc mower. But
seem to eat up 500 dollars worth of belts and blades
every year. Rake with a old 3 pt John Deere pto
rake. it will rake anything and you can lift it up
over the windrows getting out of the hay patch. Bale
with a 4X5 Gehl round baler, it is a pleasure to run
after our old Vemeer 605C with manual tie!
would be cheaper to operate than a disc mower. But
seem to eat up 500 dollars worth of belts and blades
every year. Rake with a old 3 pt John Deere pto
rake. it will rake anything and you can lift it up
over the windrows getting out of the hay patch. Bale
with a 4X5 Gehl round baler, it is a pleasure to run
after our old Vemeer 605C with manual tie!
Brendon Warren
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I'd have to say the old 469 New Holland haybine, had aHesston 1090 after that , but now I'm running a 479 and a488, can mow a gear faster with the New Hollands but the Hesston works well with the long New Holland guards on it. 336 John Deere baler is alright but the 327 is a way better machine in my opinion. We've never run anything but a John Deere baler. My grandfather had Massey balers we called it the G whiz-bang. g whiz it's working then bang it's broke.
Erik Ks farmer
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I vote NH, 479 and 268 baler were good reliable machines. Never ran anything but a New Holland Moco until this season and if I could have found the $ I would have stayed NH. Bought an 8360 CIH which is a Hesston under the skirt. I have a 336 JD now and it's a good baler but not as reliable as the 268 was.
jwal10
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- Western Oregon
I bought a new IHC 7' 990 and a 430 baler in 1976. I was 20 yrs old. I ran a new Idea wheel rake. I did custom haying for 10 yrs with them.....James
I started out on a 474 NH haybine and 846 NH round baler. Traded in 1983 to a newer 474. Did a lot of custom hay work in the early 80's when I was in high school. Over the years lots of folks got in the business. Sorta pushed me out. Now it seems I'm one of the few left. I never did like dropping my price to buy a job. Guess in the end it paid off. Now its a 1411 behind a Cat Challenger, and a 644 NH behind a NH TB 110.
Bruce from Can.
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- Location
- Woodville, Ontario, Canada
Shoot , I didn't start my own farm till 1981, but I had a 461 NH Haybine and a 46 IH baler. ran it all with a 430 Case.In the 1970's , as a kid, the fella I worked for , had a NewIdea Cutditioner, and a 273 NH Hayliner. Powered it with a 165MF. Nice baler, rotten hay cutter. Bruce
Ken Macfarlane
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Love my JD336, just keeps ticking.
None of my stuff is new enough to fit the category allowed, except my Hesston 5500 round baler. Good machine for what I paid.
The nicest raking rake I've ever used is a Ford 3 pt pto model. I forget the number. It makes the nicest high and fluffy windrows you ever saw. Unfortunately it's worn right out and I think the previous owner raked a lot of ledge and rock with it. There are so many rips on the stripper bar it will wrap hay every chance it gets.
The nicest raking rake I've ever used is a Ford 3 pt pto model. I forget the number. It makes the nicest high and fluffy windrows you ever saw. Unfortunately it's worn right out and I think the previous owner raked a lot of ledge and rock with it. There are so many rips on the stripper bar it will wrap hay every chance it gets.
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