Found a weakness in the new truck.

jon f mn · May 9, 2013

Guess rain, sand, and a single drive axle don't add up.

Got to use the DC to pull it out.

Made it dig tho, deep enough to find the dish cable so I could fix that too. lol

D beatty · May 9, 2013

Don't you have locking rear end under that tractor? All our tandems had locking rear ends to get out situations like that.

Jim in MN · May 9, 2013

Been there..the smug satisfaction of overcoming a simple problem (pulling truck out) only to be dashed by the new cable issue. Bet you were thinking "that was easy enough" as the truck rolled forward. LOL

jon f mn · May 9, 2013

This one only has a single drive not twin screw. It does lock from side to side tho.

Anonymous-0 · May 9, 2013

Ah yeah, Your going to love that tag alxe.

LenND · May 9, 2013

That's what you get for dropping the clutch to do a wheelie! Just kidding. Used to love those tag axles in snow and ice.

Sean Feeney · May 9, 2013

Have you had that in snow yet, that amazed me being stuck.

Bill in Colo · May 9, 2013

How do you like running super singles?

Bill

jon f mn · May 9, 2013

Works great in the snow. The tag dumps the air and you have everything on the drive,

jon f mn · May 9, 2013

I haven't noticed any negatives with the singles yet. I think they have a little advantage a as far as stability goes. This truck doesn't seem to hunt the ridges and cracks in the road as much as the duals.

JD John · May 9, 2013

My brother hauled feed for a guy that had a rear tag axle truck. He said as soon as you got off the black top and onto the driveway you were stuck. Farmers started thinking he didn't know how to drive until they learned about the axle and would just shake their heads and get the tractor! John

RodinNS · May 9, 2013

I would be curious to know what the savings add up to at year end while running that single axle...

Rod

RayP(MI) · May 9, 2013

Septage hauler got stuck in my field the other day. Emptied rest of the load via hose. Made my heavily ballasted MF 180 grunt. He has a double axle with both axles driving. When he wasn"t in gear, I couldn"t move him.

Dalet · May 9, 2013

I have an old Louisville ford straight truck that has the same issue. This is a spring tag, and if I don't have momentum backing into the shed to get up the ridge, I get stuck. Especially if there is snow on the ground. Once the back axle takes the weight, time for help. Helpless is the trucks name. It's okay in dry dirt, but once there is moisture of any sort, let it sit.

Old-F20 · May 9, 2013

I must be old school because i will never own anything with singles on them......period

I demo'd a new Wilson smooth side belt trailer that had singles on it and guess what......lost a tire. i was dead right where i sat. just so happened to have a load of wet cake on so that made the tire guy real happy. at least with duals you can limp it somewhere and get off the roads.

as far as tag axles go, ive never dealt with one on a tractor but i can tell you from looking at your picture that getting stuck like that would only happen one time.

NCWayne · May 9, 2013

My FL106 Freightliner service truck has the same problems. Given that I am pushing the legal 20,000 on the rear all the time, all it takes is a shower and I can get stuck on top of the mud, don't even have to sink. On the other hand I have been pulled into and/or out of job sites by dozers, on purpose, so many times I now keep a heavy cable in the back for just such occasions....it's those times when I don't plan to be stuck that really get to me...

I wish I had pics of the last time I was really stuck. I was several hundered yards back on a sewer pump station construction site that was nothing but red dirt. It had been dry for weeks so the site was nothing but powder when I got there earlier in the day. Around 4:30 a storm came in (one of those walls of water coming toward you type of things), and before I could even think about moving and I knew I was stuck. It was Friday afternoon and everyone else had left at 3 so I was the only one there. Getting to the gravel road out meant having to pull my truck up and down a hill that also had some side slope in it. Now that was an adventure in itself. Anyway, much longer story short, it took me nearly 2 hours in the rain, with a D5, all by myself, to get my truck pulled to the gravel road so I could leave. Many, what a PITA....

showcrop · May 10, 2013

I'm sure that it can be an annoyance, but with margins what they are these days you can't just work hard you have to work smart. For the work that you do I bet that this set-up will enable you to be much more efficient than a standard 6x4 and you will retire far earlier than if you ere running a truck that were trying to run both barnyards and coast to coast.

jon f mn · May 10, 2013

This is exactly right. It is an O-R truck and fits
that well. Probly have some lower resale value at
the end of it's useful O-R life but I hope to make
enough to compensate for that. Guess we'll see.

Brad Buchanan · May 10, 2013

What a picture!

A small tractor a half century old pulling a modern, streamlined road tractor.

Only at YT!

Thanks for posting,

Brad

cshess · May 10, 2013

Cost savings are very important an i have no doubt
Darts single axle is helping that part.However in
a snow or wet road condition with a gross load of
80000 an 34000 on each tandem when it removes
weight from the rear dummy axle that removed
weight goes somewhere.With most kingpins settings
slightly behind the drive axle that axle is now
overloaded an also i am sure you are removing some
weight from front steering axle there fore seems
to me steering traction would be less an be
unsafe.Transfer of weight from steering would
happen because king pin is behind drive axle an
would tend to raise steering axle.I am thinking
safety is important also. coments welcome.

jon f mn · May 10, 2013

You are sort of correct. The system does overload the drive, but only if there is slippage. The fifth wheel is much further forward than a regular twin screw so the weight transfer is much different. I thought when I first saw it all the things you mentioned would be an issue, but after use they never materialized.

Found a weakness in the new truck.

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