Legal hauling width on a trailer

I am looking at a disk and would need it hauled home. It's a Dearborn 11-187 or something like that. Its an 8 foot disk but the wheels are on the outside of the disk and they stick out to over 9 feet. I would NOT be to wide to haul on a trailer legally right? And I don't want to get a permit as its a one time thing. Any other options? I can't tow it home its to far and on an interstate. Thanks in advance.

102" max. Just tow it but stay off the interstate. I've pulled a lot bigger stuff a lot farther. Just put a ratchet strap from the pin to the corner of the disc to pull the hitch tight to limit sway.

Can you load it sideways and take the hitch off? Some disc you can unbolt the hitch. Others not so easy.

If you have to haul it, removing the wheels might get it down to 102" unless the hubs stick out too far. With the wheels off the width won't draw as much attention. Jim

put it on the trailer and haul it home on sunday in the rain and you will be fine. Seriously if you have to be on an interstate, it has to be on a trailer. If at all possible stay off interstate, if not only be on it the least amount possible. Around here you would be fine, but I don"t know where you are hauling from and to. Advice from someone in those areas is going to be the most useful.We hauled a big IH chisel plow about a hundred miles a couple years ago, had about 3 or 4 feet hanging off both sides of the trailer, at one point got detoured through city, got back to US24, 4 lane divided highway and just stayed in right lane as far over as possible and got home just fine. Plan your travel on a non holiday weekend when traffic is minimum and just do it. A rainy day does work in your favor.

I saw a couple of new JD balers on a drop deck.They where standing up in a metal stand.Always wondered how they did that.

Vito

From the Pennsylvania Farm Bureau.
A. Width
Generally, no vehicle that exceeds eight (8) feet in
width may be driven on a highway. However, there are
certain exceptions for some farm vehicles and equipment.
1. Any implement of husbandry or vehicle loaded with
vegetable produce or forage crops may be up to eleven
(11) feet in width as long as it is driven, hauled, or towed
between sunrise and sunset on highways other than freeways.
2. An implement of husbandry or vehicle used exclusively
for highly perishable crops for processing may be
up to 14 feet, six (6) inches, if the vehicle is operated
on highways other than freeways between May 20 and
October 15 of the same year. Such a vehicle must have
two rotating yellow beacons and its four-way flashers
operating.
3. Any implement of husbandry that is not wider than
14 feet, six (6) inches in width may be driven, hauled
or towed on roads other than limited access freeways
between:
(i) parts of one farm owned or operated by the owner
of the implement of husbandry.
Operation of Oversize/Overweight Vehicles
on Pennsylvania Roads: A Farmer’s Guide
Prepared by the Governmental Relations Division
Pennsylvania Farm Bureau
510 S. 31st Street, P.O. Box 8736 • Camp Hill, PA 17001-8736
(717) 761-2740
(continued on next page)
IMPORTANT NOTE
The information contained in this document is based on laws and regulations governing agricultural
transportation that are in effect for 2012. Recently enacted amendments to state transportation statutes,
which mainly take effect in early 2013, will significantly change many of the privileges, standards and
requirements that are summarized in this document. Persons should not rely on the accuracy of any
statement contained in this document after December 31, 2012.
Farm Bureau plans to complete a revised version of this document in the spring of 2013. After its
completion, persons wanting to obtain the revised version may do so by going onto Farm Bureau’s
transportation website at transportation.pfb.com.
at a weight equal to the weight of the combination of the
truck and trailer at full trailer load capacity.
The owner of a trailer with a GVWR over 10,000
pounds has the option to reduce the registered gross
weight of the trailer to 10,000 pounds without the obligation
to increase the registered gross weight of the pulling
truck; however, the actual weight of the trailer may not
exceed the registered gross weight of the trailer. (75
Pa.C.S.A. § 4942).
Trucks whose GVWRs fall within the weight ranges
of Classes 1 through 4 may be registered at the highest
gross or combination weight assigned for the Class in
which the truck falls. (75 Pa.C.S.A. § 1916(b)). Therefore,
a truck:
(i) with a GVWR of 5,000 pounds or less (Class 1) can
be registered at 5,000 pounds.
(ii) with a GVWR if 5,001-7,000 lbs. (Class 2) can be
registered at 7,000 pounds.
(iii) with a GVWR of 7,001-9,000 pounds (Class 3) can
be registered at 9,000 pounds.
(iv) with a GVWR of 9,001-11,000 pounds (Class 4)
can be registered at 11,000 pounds.
WARNING: The operation of a truck loaded beyond the
manufacturer’s GVWR may create unsafe conditions and
also void the manufacturer’s warranty if damage should
result from such overloading. Check with your dealer
or factory representative. You should also consult your
insurer concerning your insurance coverage.
The gross weight maximum of any individual vehicle,
including farm vehicles, is 73,280 pounds. The gross
weight maximum of any combination is 80,000 pounds.
These limits are subject to the registered gross weight
of the vehicle, requirements regarding axle weight, and
requirements regarding wheel load. (75 Pa.C.S.A. §
4941).
What if I want to

I've towed and hauled over western pa roads. Whenever towing, I've stayed off 79 and 70 and really tried to stick to back roads. Pulled my square baler, round baler, and haybine on back roads. Had to bring the haybine home about 50 miles or so and avoid I70, just took it slow and made sure the SMV was visible.

I've hauled too, but I've always made sure I'm inside the 8'-0". Had to the take the head off a combine and make two trips to get it home. If it won't make 8'-0", I tow it. Either way, I'd try to avoid the interstate - and like the others said, Sunday is a good time to haul, less traffic and the weigh stations are normally closed on the interstate.

It's always nice too if you've got someone else willing to drive in a trail vehicle.

Where are you hauling to and from?

With out going it yo all the legal stuff max width is 8.5 foot as per most D.O.T. regs. Being a little over can some times get you in big trouble and some times not. Farm equipment a lot of times gets the oh ok and we will not bug you but get into an accident then it is bad. I would call the local cops and see what they say. My self I have hauled many many over size loads and now days here in Missouri you can pull a 10 foot mobile home with no problems but get wider you got to have the permits

Ohio you could pull it on non interstates with no problem but once you load on trailer that becomes a problem. I am actually hauling machinery that is just over the 9' mark all the time but I have just got a small pickup pulling width.

Once you put it on a licensed vehicle you have to be under 102 inches or have permits. IF you do not have to go on any interstate highways to get home just take some good tires and pull it home. I can be miles down the road by the time you get it loaded and then you have to unload it.

Just pulled a IH 496 disk home yesterday. It was down just north of St. Louis. We went down yesterday and got all hooked up and ready. Took off at day light this morning. 318 mile later we where home at 7:00 PM. This was a 32 footer too. Put flags on the corners and a good SMV sign and drove about 30-35 MPH.

Not knowing the disc could you laod it sideways on the trailer and take the toung off? I have done this several times and it works good and keeps it under width. If you have some hang over make sure its on the passenger side of the trailer, That way its not ware oncomming trafic can hit it. But there are times you just cant get it loaded to ware it dont hang over no matter what you do and you just have to do the best you can and take the back roads. Bandit

Its only illegal if you get caught. :twisted:

I really helps to know what state we are talking about if you want to know a true answer.
I THINK you are from Pa so here we go because I have gotten in trouble for Thinking and not Knowing before.

Legal width in Pa is 96 inches.
Federal law will kick in and force the state to allow 102 inches as long as you stay on the National truck network of roads and/or approved access routes.
Since you are buying the disk and not just hauling it between farms you own I do not think the farm exemptions will work in your favor but there may be some I did not see.

A one trip permit will cost you less than $50 (more like $25) in most states but a overwidth ticket is more like $500. Lets see $50 or $500 decisions decisions.

Hauling overwidth even with a permit on Sundays or holidays is against the law in most states.
Hauling overwidth even with a permit while it is raining is against the law in most states.
But we could follow the advise of others and haul it on a rainy Sunday morning without a permit. Yea thats good advice. Take a chance of getting 3 tickets rather than 1.

It is really hard to advise you without seeing the trailer and disc.
If you coud get the tires off; haul it on a 102 wide trailer; and load it to where it is only sticking over a inch or two on the drivers side and 4 inches on the curb side you might get threw. Get in a wreck and it is a whole differant ball game.

For me spend the 25 to 35 dollars and haul it right down the interstate. My piece of mind is worth that much.

I know that as a retired Trooper and former DOT Inspector, if I was going to do it, the first thing I'd do is ask a vague question lacking any specifics on an internet forum. That's an almost certain way to get lots of tickets and maybe sued. :shock:

What might be better it to expend the effort of calling or researching the laws in the specific state or states you want to haul in or through. If those states use the Federal laws then you'd want to learn the exemptions available to farmers, if you are a farmer that is.

John gives you a good start, the rest is up to you.

(quoted from post at 17:14:12 03/28/13) I am looking at a disk and would need it hauled home. It's a Dearborn 11-187 or something like that. Its an 8 foot disk but the wheels are on the outside of the disk and they stick out to over 9 feet. I would NOT be to wide to haul on a trailer legally right? And I don't want to get a permit as its a one time thing. Any other options? I can't tow it home its to far and on an interstate. Thanks in advance.

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I didn't take the time to read all the rplies. Maybe someone already pointed this out.

The load CANNOT be any wider than the trailer. If your trailer is a full 102" (8' 6")wide, then the load can also be 102" wide.

BUT, if your trailer is only 96" wide (8'), then the load can be no wider than 96"

i do heavy hauling for the company when they need to move a piece of equipment, in my experience all i can offer is do it leagle, or get it done leagle , the fines if your caught sneaking around with a overwidth load will be far more than the cost of doing it right, and if your load hits something or somebody, or gets hit by somebody you are in real trouble

An 8' wide disk should be less than 8' deep with the tongue removed.

Dad's IH 16' transport disk is only about 10' deep without the tongue.

I think this would be an 11-167 disk harrow, but I can't find any pictures to verify. From what little I can gather it seems pretty rare.

'Here' it would not be an issue if it was on a farm plated truck. Just use some common sense and flag the extremeties and use an oversize sign. For a commercial truck a one time overwidth permit would not be a big deal. Just the same, most things like that around here are done on weekends or under the cover of darkness...

Rod

If you can haul it lenght ways and remove tongue would probably be safest.Permits are required on all loads over 102 wide and the load needs to be flagged have flashing lights and hauled during daylight.Farmers get a break but if an accident were to happen you would not like the outcome.

(quoted from post at 23:14:32 03/28/13) . Put flags on the corners and a good SMV sign and drove about 30-35 MPH.

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Around here SMV signs are only good under 25 mph. By putting the sign on it and going over 25 mph you may be adding another infraction if stopped.

I have a pair of magnetic trailer lights that I stick on the back of things like that and hitch it to the back of the truck and go. Takes less time than loading, chaining, and then worrying about legality,

(quoted from post at 06:35:20 03/29/13)

(quoted from post at 17:14:12 03/28/13) I am looking at a disk and would need it hauled home. It's a Dearborn 11-187 or something like that. Its an 8 foot disk but the wheels are on the outside of the disk and they stick out to over 9 feet. I would NOT be to wide to haul on a trailer legally right? And I don't want to get a permit as its a one time thing. Any other options? I can't tow it home its to far and on an interstate. Thanks in advance.

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I didn't take the time to read all the rplies. Maybe someone already pointed this out.

The load CANNOT be any wider than the trailer. If your trailer is a full 102" (8' 6")wide, then the load can also be 102" wide.

BUT, if your trailer is only 96" wide (8'), then the load can be no wider than 96"

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That sounds like a State Law to me. I know it's not law in my state or on the Fed end. At least not when I retired it wasn't.