Erik Ks farmer

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There has been a run on all the grocery stores around here, I just saw a picture on the Topeka Capital Journals website showing the bread isle at a Dillions Supermarket in Topeka, it is wiped bare. What are people thinking?? If we do get the forecasted 8-12 inches there is no reason life can't carry on. Topeka schools are closed, State of Kansas has already shut down for tomorrow. This is crazy.
 
I don't know... I knew we were getting low and today was a town-job day, so I grabbed a gallon of milk and loaf of bread before leaving town.

Not in a panic. Just like to have enough milk and bread around if the kiddles are snowed in at home Friday.
 
No worries here...we bought a new Panasonic bread machine about 2 months ago. The store bought bread was nothing but expensive crap. The new machines are a lot better than our 15 year old machine....easier to use and better results. Just took out a loaf about an hour ago.....mmmmmm!
 
6-10 inches predicted here (NW MO)- wife asked if I need to check the generator - I said nope- power goes out, we save on the electric bill!
 
I did get the kerosene heater cleaned, but didn't put fuel in it. I figure I can fill it in the dark if it comes to that. Our poor four leggers, 3 cats 2 mastiffs and a golden retriever would keep us warm but not the water pipes. We live in Galesburg Iowa and when the power goes out we are usually the last ones back up.
 
If they advertise a snow around here, all the Baltimorons clear the stores of toilet paper, bread and milk. Guess they're thinking of 'clean=up', too.....
 
Nah, not crazy, just cautious! I have never made bread and I gotta have something to sop up my bean juice! The reason we buy milk when they predict snow is so we can make SNOWCREAM!
 
Don't know how we used to survive storms in the old days. I guess people grew their own food and didn't need much from town. City people now would starve to death if something happened to the food supply. Of course I shouldn't talk, I only have about a weeks worth of food at any one time. Wonder what is going on with Wal-Mart, stopped and got some food this afternoon and noticed a lot of bare shelves of the few things I normally eat.
 
Ok I admit it I was one of those crazies. I was running a little low on T-paper and stocked up today. I didn't want to take a chance in case I got snowed in without the essentials.
 
Good thing they don't live up here. We got 14 inches of snow last Thur night and it has snowed everyday since. Had 30 MPH winds last 2 days
 
thats a normal snowfall here. I wonder what people would do if you got the UNPREDICTED 5 FEET over 4 days that we got 2 years ago. it started snowing around noon on a sunday and finally let up weds. evening. this pic was taken about noon on tuesday in a wind protected area at my moms house.
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I know we could live a good week without ever going out of the house.

If I wanted a change of diet, I would stick the .22 out the door and shoot a mess of squirrels off the bird feeder.

Gene
 
Marilyn and I were in town this morn and people in the grocery store were talking about the big storm coming. One forecast is for 5"-8". Another is 6"-10". A third is 4"-5". Pick your number! We have NO snow anywhere so whatever we do get won't be much of a problem with our deep road ditches here in NWIA. The way it's been going around here I'll be surprised to see as much as 2". Jim
 
At least they have to predict a fair amount of snow for things to get crazy there. Around here if they even remotely mention snow or ice you'd think the world was going to end. A few weeks back they put off school for the following morning, by two hours, because it was supposed to get bad overnight. By just after sun up the roads were pretty clear, and by 10, when school would have started, they were clear. Thing is they put out another call around 6, while it was still dark, and cancelled everything for the day because, "Conditions hadn't inproved any". Guess they thought that the temp was going to rise before the sun came up instead of afterwards.... Funny thing, they scheduled a makeup day for the following Saturday and the weather actually did get bad, the roads iced up, and the makeup day had to be cancelled too.....But stupid crap like that is par for the course around here nowdays....can't figure out what happened because it wasn't like that when I was in school....
 
Its funny how people in different place react to snow. In 1969 I was at Fort Belvoir VA and just before I left there they got snow overnite. Everything was closed schools and stores. The snow amounted to 1/2 and you would have thought they had a blizzard. Being from Mich I thought this was funny
 
In my opinion thier is a fundamental difference in the general population of today then 3 generations ago. For one thing, there are a lot more people. That in itself increases the amount of panic in the herd. Second BIG difference is avg person is not self reliant anymore. The urbanites never were, the suburbanites used to be because they were only one generation away from thier self reliant, stoic grandparents. Rural people still self reliant but a small minority.
Even "do/fix everything myself" people like me are not longer totally self reliant because we have to use public utilities for electric, water supply.
In my opinion thats why "the sheeple" panic. They know no other way.
pete
 
The biggest difference is that it's marketed as "THE STORM TO END ALL STORMS!!!". When I was a kid good old Stewart Hall on WCAX out of Burlington would cheerfully say we we're in for 8-10" and that was it. It meant fresh snow for the skiers, a bit of plowing and shoveling for the rest of us. No big thing. Now it's got to be marketed as a DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTION!!! Everything is supposed to be another form of Katrina so the people will stay glued to their TVs while the talking heads perform their acts, telling us we're all about to die.

8-10" overnight wouldn't even get school called much of the time. Now, you wake up to 46" of "partly cloudy" some morning and then you have something to talk about! And even them there was no panic, just a lot of shoveling.
 
Come on now. Do your patriotic duty. Panic is good for the economy. Just imagine all the bread and toilet paper that is no longer sitting on the shelves and the extra shifts that are going to be put on in the bakeries to bring the bread reserve back up.
Another question along the same lines,What the heck do southerners do with all the plywood they bought for the last hurricane? Seems as though they would have enough stock piled by now to build a city.
 
its because some people are just idiots, lack of training has made them reliant on the government either local state or national for their every need, most rural people know to keep 1 to 2 weeks food on hand at all times, just basic non perishable foods, ie canned goods dry cereals, that type of food, just something to eat,as well as keep the propane tank at least 1/2 full, if you get stranded by snow, flood, ect snow is no biggie on the farm, as most of us have equipment of some sort that can move it in order to feed animals and get wood ect, now days in the cities the younger set spent their childhood wrapped up in video games, they were never learned to be prepared, and be self sufficient to a point, consequently when there is word of some kind of weather event, everybody panics and rushes down to the store to grab everything in sight, because they didnt take a few basic steps to be ready for winter weather during winter,and they live 'in the moment' not thinking a week or 2 ahead and planning, cities have at least some snow removal equipment, ie plow trucks, graders ect, so a few inches of snow, means at most a day or 2 before they can get out and about.Power outages are common in rural areas so we keep a genset and several cans of gas ready for it, city folks could easily do the same thing, but no a power failure sends waves of panic all around a lot of people, because "somebody" isnt taking care of them
 
You'd be surprised how many people these days keep almost nothing in the house to eat so the prospect of not being able to get to a fast food joint is an emergency.
 
Ivan, I kinda had the reverse experience around that time. I had a good friend who I worked with in his first year in Tennessee. He made the same comment as yours and laughed, saying everyone should get a volkswagon like he drove and quit worrying.

That year I pulled him out of three ditches in the first winter. He didn"t realize that the counties back then didn"t have much snow equipment, salt, budget funds, etc for what few snows we would get. He also didn"t realize that our snows ended up being packed on the road, partially melting, and then refreezing overnite.

Net result was that he learned the difference in driving in snow versus on slick ice and driving on hills and hollows versus flat to slightly rolling. His biggest surprise was when he was parked in stalled traffic and his little volkswagon slid off the road sideways into the ditch even though he was parked!

(Thankfully, the counties now do a better job and have more equipment. Now we need to get a snow every now and then.)
 
When I was a kid, more years ago than I like to admit to, if it looked like it was going to snow, someone commented, "It looks like snow".

Whatever amount of snow we had, we coped with it and life went on. Nowadays, at even the hint of snow the media makes a 5 day circus out of it.

Plus a prominent local TV meteorologits exagerates and sensationalizes the weather beyond belief. And my wife, for one, hangs onto every word he says. He always uses "wiggle" words. If it looks like a couple inches of snow, he says "the pototential" is there for 12 inches. I think he gets paid by the word. He can take 15 minutes to say it might rain tonight and then again it might not.

I think the media creates a lot of the panic. I heard somewhere recently that TV weather people are taught to sensationalize some negative aspect of the weather just before a commercial break on the theory people will hang on during the commercials to find out what's so horrible about the weather.
 
The idiots are also down here. In southeast Texas. Went to the store last night. Walked in the door saw the checkout stands packed.No bread,,milk,beans,toliet paper. Most of the shelves were empty.

Bunch of nuts. We are only going to get to 45 today. Hardly a reason to panic
 
Not doubting your word Wayne,but we have at least 2(or more) districts that have kids getting on buses at 5AM so it gets hairy on when to call something(school).In this SUE happy world some times you can't win.Plus some kids don't get off the bus until 5:30-6 PM.Dark to Dark.
 
For some reason I had the melody of, "A Country Boy Can Survive" running through my head as I read Eriks' post.
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I'm with on that plywood thing ! I've wondered that for years. That year back when all those were criss crossing Florida they caused a nationwide shortage and price hike.
 
It's a whole different world than it was in the 50's 60's 70's and even 80's. Everybody puts things off until the last minute.

People don't have snow tires. A few inches of snow leaves them stranded.

People don't keep food in the house. They eat out or grocery shop for the day. Can't eat the same thing twice in a row.

God forbid you're uncomfortable for a few minutes. Most people these days have the furnace cranking if the outside temperature drops below 68 and the A/C running if it goes above 72.
 

I dont think its crazy. in 2007 i was stationed in ft riley Kansas that winter i was over in iraq, my wife was on post with my 2 little girls then 1.5 and 6 months when an ice storm came through shut down all for junction city , Fort Riley and Manhattan. The army moved as many families to empty barracks buildings as they could. severe cold in the negative temps with high winds and the post was mostly without power for 9 days my wife was stuck at our home. till the army got the roads clear of down power lines, trees and most the ice salted away. only way she kept from freezing was blocking the kitchen door and and cooking on the gas stove the whole time. and building a big pillow and blanket fort under the table to keep kids happy and warm. even now when we here a sever winter storm warning we make sure we have plenty just in case that happens again.
 
Last time we had a big snow in Missouri, the governor shut down everything he could. The number of accidents and deaths was a lot less than we have had with other storms. The same stupid people might die some other way and some other time, but the police and highway department have a little easier job.
 
Remember that a lot of these big stores get the
bread delivered daily, so if people come in one day
early to buy because they don't want to drive during
the store the shelves will be bare. It's not like
the stores many of us grew up with, there's little
inventory in the back. When the truck shows up they
stock the shelves.
 
(quoted from post at 07:25:09 02/21/13)
I dont think its crazy. in 2007 i was stationed in ft riley Kansas that winter i was over in iraq, my wife was on post with my 2 little girls then 1.5 and 6 months when an ice storm came through shut down all for junction city , Fort Riley and Manhattan. The army moved as many families to empty barracks buildings as they could. severe cold in the negative temps with high winds and the post was mostly without power for 9 days my wife was stuck at our home. till the army got the roads clear of down power lines, trees and most the ice salted away. only way she kept from freezing was blocking the kitchen door and and cooking on the gas stove the whole time. and building a big pillow and blanket fort under the table to keep kids happy and warm. even now when we here a sever winter storm warning we make sure we have plenty just in case that happens again.


It's amazing what those ice storms are like at Riley, 3 tours there, 74-76, 78-80 and 93-96.

Rick
 

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