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Chev releases a turbo four diesel in the Cruze

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buickanddeere

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Quote "Chevrolet's new Cruze, which will go on
sale this year, will have a 2.0 liter, four-
cylinder engine that will get an estimated 42 mpg
in highway driving with an automatic
transmission." Unquote
The 1.4L gasser is rated at 38mpg, 1.8L with 35
or 36mpg.
Not sure how the vehicle is supposed to pay with
reg gasoline at $3.36 and diesel costing 1.17
times more at $3.93 .
42mpg on diesel is the same pump price to drive
as a 36mpg gasser.
 
It shouldn't be allowed in Kalifornia, unless Gov Motors keeps some federal highway money from them. Maybe it will be anyway, I know the clean diesels that aren't all messed up in other countries aren't allowed there.
 
Big deal, My fils jetta diesel tdi gets 52 mpg! So gm still comes up short! I wouldent touch any gm product again. But I know your a "big gov" motors supporter.
 
You miss the point, BD.

You're not supposed to DRIVE the thing. You're supposed to leave it idling outside 7-11. At least that seems to be what everybody does with their diesel pickups.
 

Sadly, automotive engineering and marketing decisions are increasingly made to meet federal CAFE regulations rather than real world criteria.

Dean
 
And the noisier the diesel rattles the closer to the door they park it. When I bought that 98 Dodge Cummins I told the neighbors now I can have a diesel to leave idling outside the coffee shop so everyone can hear I have a diesel. It rattled my bank account big time when the injection pump took a dump. For the record, the key is off and that Cummins is silent when I get out. Jim
 
It"s about time, GM products in Europe have had them for years... 42mpg is pretty crap for this day and age though...

And before everybody rubbishes small diesel engines, please don"t until you have driven one... they drive like a gas engine, believe me...
 
1986 Chevy Nova(Toyota Corolla)with the 5 speed would get 35MPG driving the crap out of it,45 on the freeway. I should add it had a carburetor not FI, and now 27 years later we get 35 MPG, also with a 1.4L gas. The old VW Rabbit Diesels would get 60MPG. Big government is a great thing.
 
Our 95 Town Car would get 24 mpg at 70+ mph with the ac on. If a car that heavy can get that kind of mileage, these little beer cans riding around with weed eater motors in them should get 75.
 
They have released it to get their CAFE fuel economy standards up so they can sell more trucks, Camaro's etc.

It is also something for fuel conscious drivers. But I'm like the others, can't make the numbers work. Don't forget batteries, starters, etc. for diesel engines are a lot bigger and more expensive.
 
jealous aren't you? Wifey won't let you have one? Closest 7-11 is 30mi away so I have to leave my Dodge idling at Shell, Cenex or Casey's instead, hope you don't mind!
 
Bingo.

That said, 42 MPG for a car the size of the Cruz with an automatic is not bad.

Dean
 
Not really, An equal size Toyota Prius Liftback, running on much cheaper 87 octane gasoline, will give a solid combined 50 mpg. I have driven one for nearly 4 years and maintain a 50+ mpg average.
 
I remember the old Rabbit diesels, 50 and better mpg, the Geo"s, yeah, crappy cars, but excellent mileage. If they could do that then, with the technology they have now, why isn"t it much better? Taxes! The goobermint needs those taxes from fuel sales. I don"t care about cafe numbers, epa numbers etc. They could and should be building cars and trucks that get way better fuel mileage than they do. Like others said, I would love a diesel car or truck, but the numbers don"t work. I guess being the tightwad I am and having a nice shop, my 97 f150 will keep running for a long time. I hate payments anyway.
 
Hey there;
I used to have a 89? Chevy Caprice with a 305 ci engine in it. Drove it from northern Ohio to Hollywood Fla, couple times. That was a heavy car, still got a rock solid 27-29 MPG ran so good I was afraid to give it a tuneup.
Bob
God Bless
 
Seems that everyone wants to top each other's outlandish mileage claims. How about this one: I had a '69 Cadillac Coupe deVille that got 28 mpg in the city, and 32 on the highway pulling a 28' Airstream trailer. Honest.
 
By a whole bunch! I know that mileage is important but it seems that people need to have a little pride in what their car looks like.
Prius looks like a cross between a manatee and a feral hog.

But--to each his own....
 
(quoted from post at 00:41:01 02/09/13) Not really, An equal size Toyota Prius Liftback, running on much cheaper 87 octane gasoline, will give a solid combined 50 mpg. I have driven one for nearly 4 years and maintain a 50+ mpg average.
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Jon, your forgetting to factor in the cost of a battery pack, that you will be replacing pretty soon. I've heard any where from $6-8K. Your going to pay for that new battery pack one way or another, either at trade in or actually purchasing one. Yours is old enough that it will be a factor. I didn't even add the up front money you paid for the Hybrid technology. Just that alone shoots your boast right in the foot, if you really want to do an apples to apples cost of ownership comparison.
 
As I said, "not bad." I did not say "best."

I'm betting that one will be able to buy the Cruz diesel for quite a bit less than a Prius. I'm also betting that it will not need a $6,000 - $8,000 battery within the next decade.

Dean
 
I have not seen any pricing for the Cruiz diesel, have you?
A Prius c sells for $19,000 a liftback for $24,000. Have to compare prices when the cruse diesel is finally at the dealer.

A rbuilt Prius battery sells for $1700 exchange, but failures are very rare almost unheard of.
Watchg the news storu from Vancouver, the yellow cab company in that town uses Prius for taxi.

In spite of the beating they take as cabs, the battery in this gen 2 I believe a 2005 model, lasted for 420,000 miles, the entire car has over 700,000 miles on it, so they are tops in being reliable.
The gen 3 out since the summer of 2009 is even more reliable and makes better mpg, in the 50+ range.
Prius are reliable
 
Nothing more than a VW wannabe. And it will never be as economical on fuel either. Last week, in that severe cold, I still got 45 mpg(US Gal).
In the summer I can get over 50. I love my TDI Jetta.
 
Just thinking.........The design work is done and tooling setup. Wonder if GM has a plan for Fiat to build a straight six version of that engine for light pickups and SUV's ?
It's a logical step.
 
It would be great to get some light veichle diesels back in North America. Those little diesel engines seem to do so well in Europe, Asia, Africa, why such poor fuel economy in North Americs ? Is it our emissions regs ?

Your post about the Cruize diesel reminds me of jeeps first diesel SUV of about 10? years ago.
The first road test I read of it was in a British car magazine. They raved about the power and economy of this little diesel Jeep, but the US version was as unimpressive as the Cruize diesel, only about 2 mpg better than the gas version and SLOW by our standards ???
 
I have a 2011 cruze Eco 1.4 turbo six speed manual and love it commute 100 miles it will consistently get 38 mpg if your light on it It will do more it likes 60 mph on two lanes better than 80 mph on the interstate I have averaged 44 mpg on a tank
 
Ron, I'm with you , the Germans have had it figured out and perfected quite a while ago. My 2006 1.9 turbo diesel Jetta with all the goodies and automatic gets 45-50 on highway and is as solid feeling of a car as any. Right now has 180,000 on it. Still looks and drives like new. Starts at hit of switch even at zero. No smoke or rattle (well a little when it's zero out) Don't remember as VW ever took any of our tax dollars to stay afloat either. GM / Chrysler and Ford , you are too late for this boy. I would buy another VW in a minute. They've been there / done that and all you are is a copy-cat. They can stick their "untested" Cruze.
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calculators are only as good as the numbers punched into them too. Course then their was always those one off experimental cars that mysteriously got sold to the public too.
 
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