I have an Allis B that I work with on a couple acres but it's just not the tractor to do so much with. It works good for cultivating but more than well forget it. I would like to get a tractor that has three point, utility, live pto, make not important, wide front. If any of you could give me ideas on the best fuel economy tractor fitting this description please let me know. I've been looking for some time now and find that tractors in the size of the Oliver 550 and Farmall 300 seem to be right (however the 300 is without three point many times). However being not well versed in the makes and their numbers it's only a guess what I know and what I'll miss. So if any of you are able to help great.
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danofarming
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Massey Ferguson 35, or 135 are great utility tractors. The only one to avoid is the 35 with the 4 cylinder standard diesel, they were hard starting. The MF 50 and 150 are the same tractors in different dress. A 50 on LP fuel would be nice. I hope to get my hands on my Father In Law's 135 diesel sold to him new by my grandfather!
Anonymous-0
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I own a Ford 860. It has live power and live hydraulics. The 3 point works great and it is rated at 40 HP. You should be able to pick one up for around $3000.00 to $3500.00
Well you could have a lot of different models that would meet your needs.
For Ford I would think any thing newer than the 01 series would work fine. Like a 641 or a little newer 2000. Then even newer yet would be a Ford 3000
In MF you would have the : 35,135,235 would be in the size you are thinking about.
In Oliver the 55 and the 550 would be a good match.
In JD I would not go with anything older than maybe a JD 1020 or JD 1520. The 1010 and 2010 where not very good tractors. So unless you like to tinker I would stay away from them.
On IH you are limited by those that have a three point. So the one I can think of quick are the 300 or 350. A little newer would be the 404, 424,444 , these area pretty good little utility tractor in the size you are wanting.
For Ford I would think any thing newer than the 01 series would work fine. Like a 641 or a little newer 2000. Then even newer yet would be a Ford 3000
In MF you would have the : 35,135,235 would be in the size you are thinking about.
In Oliver the 55 and the 550 would be a good match.
In JD I would not go with anything older than maybe a JD 1020 or JD 1520. The 1010 and 2010 where not very good tractors. So unless you like to tinker I would stay away from them.
On IH you are limited by those that have a three point. So the one I can think of quick are the 300 or 350. A little newer would be the 404, 424,444 , these area pretty good little utility tractor in the size you are wanting.
Anonymous-0
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You ought to know, but it sure seems like a B Allis would be more than enough tractor for two acres.
Glenn
Glenn
Yes it will do a lot but things like a bush hog must be trailer type and they are hard to find. Running one is a pain in the butt without live PTO. It's a lot of start it and stop it or you shear the woodruff key. Mounting the bar mower to the tractor is to say the least a bear. It's on and not worth taking it off. Plowing is fair it's easy to mount. Planting unless you have a planter like a 290 JD there just isn't anything to do it with. Try finding a planter system or a side dresser for this tractor. And if you do let me know of it I am looking. So to tell you other than work tons to get what could be mounted and unmounted easily the tractor isn't worth the hassle. Don't get me wrong I like the tractor for what I use it for but it's time to step up to something else.
id vote for the ford too for that size of place it woud be plenty of tractor, the thousand series will have live pto and hydraulics, there pretty simple to operate and repair and there well supported in the parts area most normal maintenance stuff is available at the nearest auto parts store, the tractor specific parts are easy to get,a lot of them right here on this site. there plentiful, and reasonably priced, if you have the ability to do mechanical work though virtually any American brand tractor 30 to 50 hp is a good choice,folks on this site in the brand specific pages can talk you thru virtually any repair, most of these drawbar only tractors can be fitted with aftermarket 3 point hitches too
Well,my uncle farmed an 80 acre farm with nothing but an Oliver Super 55. Another uncle farmed a 67 acre farm with a Ford 8N,later traded it off on a Massey Ferguson 35,so 14 acres is no problem at all with that size tractor. No point in having more tractor than you need. A bigger one will just cost more when you need something like a rear tire or major repair. The best salesmen I ever dealt with were the ones who told me to keep it simple.
JDSeller, I work in my family"s MF dealership. I will have to agree on the 35 & 135, but please do not recommend a 235 to anyone you do not ABSOLUTELY HATE! They had a terrible steering system on them, with a lot of unique parts, some of which are obsolete, and those that are available are VERY expensive! The 230 and 245 were nearly bulletproof! They were also the last of the American built tractors.
Frank Dodson
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The Oliver 550 is a great utility tractor. They came equipped with 6 speed transmission, live p.t.o. and live hydraulics. I have a 1964 550 and it is a tough tractor.
Well I'm fine within a few thousand. If the price is right along with the tractor I'm sure I can work out the details. Spending 5000.00 is to much. There are quality tractors out there that will do what I want for far less and more in the price range I am looking. They don't have to restored either. I plan on using the tractor and a drip or dent isn't going to be any worry to me.
The Super 55 and 550 were excellent on gas. The 66 used the same engine.The 66 had a 13 gallon gas tank,and I can run my 12KW generator all night with that one on a tank of gas. Dad always claimed he could plow a field with his 66 on the same gas it took to drag the same field with John Deere A.
As far as pulling a baler,no problem. Most of Oliver's baler literature back then showed them being pulled by a 550. Even some of the pull type combine literature showed them behind 550s.
Don't be afraid to go with the later "Improved" Super 55 made in 1957 and 58. There wasn't really a dimes worth of difference between them and the early 550s. The "Improved" Super had a 12 volt system,key start ignition,all the goodies that the 550s had.
As far as pulling a baler,no problem. Most of Oliver's baler literature back then showed them being pulled by a 550. Even some of the pull type combine literature showed them behind 550s.
Don't be afraid to go with the later "Improved" Super 55 made in 1957 and 58. There wasn't really a dimes worth of difference between them and the early 550s. The "Improved" Super had a 12 volt system,key start ignition,all the goodies that the 550s had.
No it wasn't. Fully independant PTO and hydraulics were standard on all the Super 55s and 550s. They didn't stop when you pushed the clutch all the way down. The pump ran whenever the engine was running,the PTO had a seperate clutch lever and wasn't effected at all by the tractor clutch.
Anonymous-0
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Ford 861, 3 point, live hydraulics, 2 stage clutch, easy to work on , lots of parts available
Traditional Farmer
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An Oliver 1265 or 1365 are about the same size range as an Oliver 55 but are a whole lot nicer to run tractors with better steering and more gears plus they are easy on fuel.
Just a lot harder to find is all. And you want to make sure it's one of those and not these others on this list.
Good and bad imports
Good and bad imports
Traditional Farmer
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True,also the Allis Chalmers 5040,5045,and 5050 are basically the same tractor as are the Long 445,460,550 and 560.Some also go under the MM name and the UTB(Universal)names.
Anonymous-0
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Your sure milking that red Fiat.
Ultradog MN
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Pretty tough to beat the little Fords.
3000 is a great small tractor - about 37 hp.
Get one with live power and power steeering and you'd have a little sweetheart.
Easy to work on, Parts readily available. You can get them either gas or diesel. The diesels are very easy on fuel.
3000 is a great small tractor - about 37 hp.
Get one with live power and power steeering and you'd have a little sweetheart.
Easy to work on, Parts readily available. You can get them either gas or diesel. The diesels are very easy on fuel.
For a few bucks more, I personally would go with a little newer Ford 2/3/4000 or better yet 2600-3600.
Lots of parts available, low gears for tillers and snowblowers, easy to get up on. Diesel or gas. good PTO options.
You can pick up a nice one in the 3500-5000 range.
Rick
Lots of parts available, low gears for tillers and snowblowers, easy to get up on. Diesel or gas. good PTO options.
You can pick up a nice one in the 3500-5000 range.
Rick
You mentioned baling. My Ford 2000 does fine raking and running the square baler. What I could not do is run a haybine or a small drum mower. If baling is a serious idea, you need about 45-50 hp to handle most small haybines and the smaller drum or disc mowers. Suggest you widen the scope to ford 4000/4600, farmall 5xx, 6xx, massey 165/180, deere 2020/2030,2240 etc. and the a fore mentioned fiat olivers. Many of these can be had in the less than $5000 range. I should have bought bigger than the 2000. Great tractor but about 10-15 hp too short (and too light for the smaller drum/disc mowers)
John
John
Thanks for the great ideas and I now have some numbers to start looking for. Now that I have the tractor numbers I need to find one for sale. Where is the best place(s) to start looking other than here? I'm sure there are links other than Craigslist or E bay that many of you use, what are they? Any links would be great. I'm hoping this summer will be with a new (used) tractor. Thanks for
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