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Bkpigs

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Hooked up a cheap electric fence test light to visually ensure
the the fence is working from the house. It lasted about four
days and the resistor burned out. What size resistor should I
get? The light is just an LED with no makings and the resistor
has no markings either. It is kinda shot in the dark but I
thought I could at least get some direction. Appreciate it!
 
IIRC the resister has different colored stripes around it and these are what tells you the resistance and such. Maybe someone else knows more.
 
Greg is correct, many resistor have colored stripe markings on them, but some (especially larger ones) don't. Do you have a picture of the resistor that was in the unit?
 
get a 0 to 100K ohm potentiometer of about 10 watt rating. set it to full resistance (center tap to right terminal when looking down the shaft) turn the shaft to the far left (max resistance) then turn on the fence. (do not touch the resistor when the fence is on) if it lights leave it alone if not shut off the fence and move the shaft CW one eighth turn. try it again. Do this till it works as desired. Jim
 
Anybody ever tape a fluorescent light tube to an electric fence? I've been told they would flash when the fencer fired. But for how long? Never tried it myself.
 
Are you sure the LED is still good? If the resistor burned out, the LED might have shorted first. A quick continuity test will tell; if current will flow in both directions, it's shorted.

The resistor burned out because it's wattage rating wasn't sufficient for continuous use. It will need to be replaced with one that's rated for higher wattage.

Note that the energy used to heat up the resistor is energy that's not available to shock your lifestock.
 
I have held the tube by the glass part and touched an end terminal to the fence. That made the thing light .
Have to experiment with taping the entire tube to the fence wire.
 
(quoted from post at 00:11:46 02/06/13) Bad Boys Rape Our young Girls But Violet gives willingly. Or some such wording for the color on a resister

Learned that is B.E.E school myself..........thank you good ol USN!!!
 
You are correct sir.
Black, Brown, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Violet, Grey, White.

Representing the numbers 1 thru 9

Tolerances are 5% gold, 10% silver, no tolerance band, 20%

First two are value, 4th is multiplier, 5th if there is one is tolerance.

Reading is from the end of the resistor that the rings are closest to.

So the 100K mentioned would be Brown, Black, Yellow (4 zero'),

for 1, 0, 0000.

Size varies as wattage rating and that is usually double the maximum dissipation expected in the circuit.

On resistors higher than 2watt, the value and wattage are stamped on it, not banded.

First part of my tech training in the service.

In helping to size a resistor to run a fence charger monitor, that poses a unique problem. If using an LED diode, it operates off about 1.5 volts. The fence charger will put out 5,000 volts more or less depending on model.

However, as we all know that voltage has an on-off duty which is quite small (making for low wattage even though the voltage is high) and there is an inline resistance in the charger too so that you get the "snap" of the voltage to cause the desired effect, but the current that is delivered in that snap is limited so that it doesn't pose a health (deadly short) problem for the recipient. I guarantee you it's not like getting across your local utility power line.

So personally, I can't help with the desired size.

High voltage can energize neon lights. Used to know a guy that repaired radio receiver/transmitters, and had a 40w neon bulb hanging adjacent to his test station. When he'd key a transmitter, the bulb would illuminate.

On the fence charger, I don't know if the duration of the snap is long enough in duration to ionize the neon gas.

Mark
 
I knew I was close but was not 100% sure been a very long time since I used it. Been at least 20 years since I even thought about trying to figure out the ohms of a resister by the color bands
 
(quoted from post at 10:14:07 02/06/13) You are correct sir.
Black, Brown, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Violet, Grey, White.

Representing the numbers 1 thru 9

Tolerances are 5% gold, 10% silver, no tolerance band, 20%

First two are value, 4th is multiplier, 5th if there is one is tolerance.

Reading is from the end of the resistor that the rings are closest to.

So the 100K mentioned would be Brown, Black, Yellow (4 zero'),

for 1, 0, 0000.

Size varies as wattage rating and that is usually double the maximum dissipation expected in the circuit.

On resistors higher than 2watt, the value and wattage are stamped on it, not banded.

First part of my tech training in the service.

In helping to size a resistor to run a fence charger monitor, that poses a unique problem. If using an LED diode, it operates off about 1.5 volts. The fence charger will put out 5,000 volts more or less depending on model.

However, as we all know that voltage has an on-off duty which is quite small (making for low wattage even though the voltage is high) and there is an inline resistance in the charger too so that you get the "snap" of the voltage to cause the desired effect, but the current that is delivered in that snap is limited so that it doesn't pose a health (deadly short) problem for the recipient. I guarantee you it's not like getting across your local utility power line.

So personally, I can't help with the desired size.

High voltage can energize neon lights. Used to know a guy that repaired radio receiver/transmitters, and had a 40w neon bulb hanging adjacent to his test station. When he'd key a transmitter, the bulb would illuminate.

On the fence charger, I don't know if the duration of the snap is long enough in duration to ionize the neon gas.

Mark
t is enough to ionize........all of cheap fence testers that I have seen/owned use neon bulb & resistor.
 
If you are dealing with 5KVor more, probably pockettester with NE5 bulb would like up just by proximity. Used to use them in TV service. Keep the leads apart and do not touch them. Might not be bright enough to see very far. On TV set probably visoble only couple maybe 10 feet. The little tester used to be had for a buck in the 60's. Dave
 

I am surprised the LED lasted four days.

I usually keep the old neon pilot lamps from various applicances etc. I just checked one, it uses a 68K ohm resistor in series for use with 120 volt AC. I am not a sparkie however, for a fence charger output of 5000 volts I believe the resistor would be (5000/120) x 68K = 2833K ohms. Now that's a resistor.

Perhaps someone else has experience with the neon lamps and could comment.
 

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