3 point herbicide sprayer

I'm thinking about getting a 3 point sprayer. I only spray about 20 acres (corn)a year so it would be fairly economical for me to spray my own. I have my spraying licence so that is not an issue. Do you favor trailer sprayers over 3 point for any reason? I have heard that most 3 point sprayers need to be repaired frequently because of the weight they hold. I am looking at a 300 gallon sprayer, which I would only have to fill up half way if that would help. Anyone know what a reasonable price would be for a used 3 point sprayer? Thanks.
 
Don't know what tractor you plan to use it on, but will your 3 point handle 1245 pounds of water plus weight of sprayer? Typical 9N/2N/8N will have trouble with that weight. A PERFECT one may lift it, but front wheels will be skating lightly if not air born.
 
I've got a 200 gallon 3pt that I made out of a Century saddle tank and a 3pt boom I bought at an auction. The only thing I don't like is putting it on. Not like just dropping a pin and hooking the pump to the PTO,but it sure rides a lot smoother on those 18.4 34s than on flotation implement tires. I like it.
 
I don't know if you can handle 300 gallons with that or not. I generally use my 200 gallon on my Oliver 1850 with 2 slab weights on the front. I used to use it on a 4040 Deere. When it's full,it makes me real nervous going up much of a hill. Get it down half way or so it's OK,but I wouldn't want 300 gallons on it. Mine's the oval saddle tank and sits in a lot closer to the back of the tractor than a round tank would too.
 
Paid $75 for my 150 gallon JD 25A with only a so-so roller pump and nozzles that needed replacing/updating. A friend also gave me a spare 25A poly tank. Both old trailer and 3pt sprayers sell cheap at auctions. Bought a good used pto centrifugal pump (cheap), new electrical shutoffs (the shutoffs were a little expensive) to replace the manual valve, put it all together and decided it was better to hire it done rather than mess around with the chemicals and cleaning everything up.
 
Hiring it out is EXPENSIVE around here- we use a neighbors after we do a little fixing on it and spray our own for pennies on the dollar.

The one we use, I think is a 200 gallon sprayer. It makes our Massey 285 very light on the front end with 5 suitcase weights on it. Once we get about a 1/3 out of it it quite a bit better. We spray about 25-30 acres.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
My experience was exactly backwards; way back when.....before the Spra-coupes.....we had 2 (300 gallon) trailer-mounted ones; each had 24 ft/8-row booms; one had a ground-driven John Blue pump and the other a pto pump. With either one, you could be hooked up and ready to go while still trying to get hitched up to a 3-point hitch one. I agree with others; for 20 acres, I"d hire it done......
 
Ya,that's the American way ain't it? Maybe he could get some illegals to do it with back pack sprayers. A whole lot better than hiking up your britches and doing something for yourself.
 
It was always crazy what my Dad was being charged to have our corn sprayed. The guy would come, be done in a matter of an hour, and then the bill came.... The markup on the spray was part of it, the rest was ego.

We need to buy an impellar for the pump on the neighbors sprayer (he let it freeze last winter) and maybe look at fixing some of the wing hinges. We fix, so we get to use. Thinking about making him an offer on it as he never gets a crop in on time anymore to be worth spraying... I think it does 16 rows in 1 pass, so it's a good size. Each side folds up 3x.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
Most sprayers here (central WI) consider it a nuisance to come and do such a small amount. They want to charge more for the nuisance. They don't want to make a special trip so if I have conventional corn in and the neighbors all have RR, it's even harder to get them to come.
 
The only thing I like about a trailer sprayer (I've never had one) is that you can carry alot more water with alot less tractor. Other than that I think the 3pt has more advantages. I believe it runs down less crop and is more manuverable. You can adjust the spray height very easily on the fly. I agree with everyone else and think that 300g may be bit much with your tractor.(even with the loader)

Have a good day!
 
I think you'll be alright then,provided the cylinder for the 3pt is good. I had to put a log chain around the arms on my 1850 for a few years til I got around to taking the top off the rear end and putting a new o-ring and spacer in the cylinder on that one. It would hold it up full with the throtle wide open,but not down at two thirds where I wanted it to be,but it kept getting worse as the oil got hotter.
 
One thing about a sprayer that big, is you can always fill it 1/2 way and refill it, or if you get a bigger tractor you can fill it all the way. I'd like to find some more weights to put on our 285 for spraying, but the prices are crazy.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
I have a Hardie 280 gal manual fold 3pt.on my 3010. Do 120 acres per year for the last 12 yrs and most times it is two passes. Paid $1800 new. I don't mind the extra work as it gives me more seat time. I have extra weight on the front end but still light. Other than that works fine for me.
 
I just sold my 300 gallon 3pt. I only paid $150 for it because it had a hole around the 200 gallon mark. On my NH3930, 150 gallons was plenty anyway, not a real big tractor. The loader and the FWD on front helped for weight.

As far as repairs, I never did a thing to it other than rinse it properly when I was done. The guy I bought it off had rebuilt the pump a year or two before I bought it, that was 10+ years ago.

A 300 gallon should be fine, just dont fill it all the way.

Rick
 
I can sympathize with you we try to do as much of our own as we can. Our co-op charges in the ballpark of $120/hr which isn't bad on bigger fields but I figured it to almost $15/acre on small patches and we can pick the chemicals instead of either getting common program they push or waiting until they get caught up so they can switch. I can do it for $4/acre with the pull type. I had a 3pt. for a while and even with big enough tractors the pull is much nicer to get hooked and unhooked from and not carrying the weight on the tractor is better in hills IMO. We bought our 750 gal. Top Air with a hyd. fold 45' boom for $1800 in good shape, the only change we made was putting a gear drive Hypro pump on in place of the Ace belt drive. The pump is mounted on the sprayer with a PTO shaft running to the tractor, much nicer than the pump hanging off the tractor. I have seen perfectly usable small pull sprayers on sales around here for $500 and under I'm not sure what you can find in your area but for my money I'd go with a pull type over a mounted any day.
 
rrlund-I guess I rattled you-I have a JD high-boy-I do all my own spraying-By the time I figure my time, my depreciation,my fuel,wear and tear and what ever else goes with it I feel I would be better off hiring the coop to spray my crops-I don't have GPS,Don't have row shutoff and don't have data recording--Why fool around with 20 A- Hire it done!!!! What it going to cost 10-20/A?





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Tsc sells a nice 30 foot 200 gallon roller pump sprayer. I think you can get out the door for about $1100. Do some calculating and get the proper stainless nozzles in the deal.
 
I"ve had 500 gallon pull-type, 2- 200 gal saddle tanks with HM mounted booms and HM 60 foot boom I made out of an anhydrous applicator frame. Now I don"t need much, so made a 300 gal 3pt type out of a 5x7 inch mounted cultivator frame. No breakage with any of them. 3pt is used on a JD 4240.
 
I've got a 100 gallon 3pt 20 foot, and a 300 gallon 2 wheel 40 foot pull type.

Can do 8 acres with the 100 gallon, think that would work fine for you 3 fills wouldn't bother any, but yes I've had it since 1991, works fine.

--->Paul
 

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