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Not a bad deal for the big time farmers.
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Looks like another government welfare program to me. Cash for clunkers rural style. Your federal taxes at work folks.

No not a bad deal for the farmer, just everyone else. They will create more polution harvesting & processing raw material, and building a new tractor than the old one will produce in it's expected life if kept in good running order. So the BTO's' profit while the tax payer gets the shaft yet again.

Rick

It is a California state program. It is how they think they will have cleaner air. It is a joke. I have seen a bunch of the tractors making it back to other areas. The engines are ruined but the rest of the tractor is fine.

There is one fellow that is buying CIH magnums and he just goes and buys a salvage yard engine and puts it back into them. He has done 10-15 of them. HE is doubling his money.

What a Joke and what a waist of a good piece of equipment . Ok so they don't want it in there screwed up state fine we could have used it here and it would make our small time silage bunker filling go much faster . And more then likely only get used a couple times a week and two weeks during harvest. They are some real nut cases . Heck they need to bring in Amish and use Horses , Oppps they Fart and make green house gasses and leave Hazardest waist piles all over the place.

Out with the American made,in with the Chinese.

Yep tht was exactly my take on it too. Just a feel good program that is less efficient than reality.

Isn't California broke? I wonder why....

One hundred and fifty years ago, a number of states seceded from the Union. We had a terrible war over it. Is there any chance that we can KICK a state out?????

Ain't that the truth.

(quoted from post at 11:11:37 01/23/13) One hundred and fifty years ago, a number of states seceded from the Union. We had a terrible war over it. Is there any chance that we can KICK a state out?????

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Now that's funny!

Rick

This crap goes on all over the country. The fed government offering a ridiculous program to "help" farmers with everyone else' money.

Wow a JD544E is "old equipment" according to the article.

Please send me your "old equipment", I will pay for shipping.

Rick

Gov't stupidity is one thing we never have to worry about running out of there is an endless supply.And it'll be all the US taxpayers/$$$ lenders that end up footing the bill when CA needs to be bailed out when they go broke.

State program which is at least in part FEDERALLY funded. Quote from the article "The district's funding, about $20 million this year, comes in part from state and federal grants."

(quoted from post at 11:39:28 01/23/13) Gov't stupidity is one thing we never have to worry about running out of there is an endless supply.And it'll be all the US taxpayers/$$$ lenders that end up footing the bill when CA needs to be bailed out when they go broke.

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Well the millionaires that live there are starting to realize they are supporting the state...and are now starting to move out. Shouldn't be long before they are belly up.

well what is to stop you from going to a junkyard or auction and buying a total basket case tractor, then having them scrap it and give you up to 80 percent of the purchase price of a comparable hp tractor???

I remember that they did this recently with cars and created another issue, Higher resale value of the existing used equipment and a higher price on used parts can you say "Brilliant" we just continue to keep paying for the stupidity of government

By what that saying, I can't see why there still scraping horse drawn stuff?

It's a bad deal for all, big, small, and non farmers.

Classmate of mine said a few years ago, we lived the best years of this country, won't be passing down anything as good to the next generation.

How true.

Was buying gas the other day, gal in front of me was buying cigarettes, took a bit of time. Attrendent said to me, he had toexplain to her why he had to card her. I don't like cigarettes, don't know nothing about them.

Guess it is state law, they need to card anyone who is under 40 to sell cigarettes to. Hesaid from time to time they send people that are 37 years old to buy, and if they don't get carded the state fines them.

What the??? Wasting time and money on such a program????

We've lost it, there used to be a time the govt actually helped people, helped this country be something good.

No more.

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Everybody better watch out this will start in every state before long, look at the new engines and all the laws on cleaning them up. You know where all this started, CA and the goverment made it law across the nation. Looks like another bunch of bull for them to mandate for everybody! Wonder if the salvage yard updated there own equipment first?

That is exactly what happens when idiots in a corner office make rules, laws and programs. They don't know what end of a crowbar to use, but they know what we need.

I think those programs are useless. Texas had something like that about three years ago on farm tractors. I think they had to be at least 10 years old. All they required was a torch cut hole in the engine block. We ended up with four ih 66 series that were easy fixers. I think now the State of Ohio is also doing that to the surplus heavy trucks that come up for sale if they are over something like 20 years old or so. The cut the frame. Lots of waste going on in the name of making the envieorment better. I have never thought the state of California should have so much influence on the rest of us. Their clean air standards are not needed in the less populated parts of the country but we have to pay just as well. In case any have not noticed a new 100 hp tractor just went up about 8 grand because of emissions standards.

And folks wonder why California is broke, and professional golfers are getting set to flee the state for ones with no state income tax.

Gene

All the anti-pollution stuff just costs all of us more money, one way or another. Went to township hall meeting the other night. Item on the agenda was to send a sub-contractor who does our DPW work to a "Stormwater Conference" to "get certified". Huh? Turns out the Michigan DEQ has been on our butts because we've got a construction "project" (asphalt bike path) that's in the final stages of construction and we haven't been doing "stormwater runoff monitoring" evidently. The contractor putting in the bike path will do it for $1400 per inspection and bill it to our small township (i.e. every time it rains, send someone down to look at the site). It's cheaper to get our guy certified and pay his hourly rate to do it.

But the point is, it's a 10' wide asphalt path, it's not a strip coal mine. So, besides construction companies and municipalities having to pay conference fees to get their people training (full employment for the training companies), we've got a bunch of bureaucrats who are hired solely to monitor rain water and where it goes.

Same goes for the ISO 14001 certification (environmental). Last company I worked for, we paid thousands of dollars every year for auditors to come in and make sure we were disposing of our paint thinners, parts cleaning stuff and even our light bulbs with a paper trail through a 3rd party company. That was on top of the thousands we were paying a month to have the company come in and get the stuff. What really irritated me was that we kept the fluorescent bulbs in a special area for them to pick up when we accumulated enough and we got dinged by an auditor for not "dating" them. He said we could only hold the used bulbs for a year before having them picked up. I was tempted to just throw them in the dumpster like most other companies do.

Better yet, how about an all out BAN on farming? Get rid of all the pollution and dust and chemicals and GMO"s and the whole lot. Save all the spotted skunks and striped owls and flipping fish too.