Pre soak tire to break down??

SteveinMo

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Need to pull the tires of therims on my TO20 Ferguson. I am sure they have been on the rims a long time and I don't want to damage them. Any suggestions as to what I might use to soak them with in order to break the bead loose without causing dammage? Something like brake fluid, PB Blaster or Coke??
 
Just use soapy water.that other stuff is not needed,thge brake fluid will damage paint,coke???Haveing the right tools is almost as important as the lubricant.A 'rich' mix of soap/water is just fine.
 
You don't want to use those things. Go to NAPA and get some liquid tire soap and a big slide hammer type bead breaker. Sometimes old tires will come off pretty easy if the bead seat isn't rusty.
 
I agree with the other two replies. I will add that the tire and tube grease I have is basically the grease form of Murphy's "pure vegetable oil" soap. You can get that at the grocery store, and dilute it to any consistency you want.
I've never had any luck lubing an old tire. But I'm not very patient. Possibly if you had the whole thing laying down flat, and pulled the bead away from the rim a little, you could pour some liquid in there and it would soak in. But that's only one side!
 
As cold as it is here wrestling with a tractor tire would be a nightmare. Put them right next to the stove in the shop would be my advice. I would still be afraid of splitting it along a weathered spot. Nothing here has an flex to it in this weather.
 
Breaking the tire from the rim usually needs no "lube". I recommend using the bead breaker tool, like gemplers sells. If not that, anything that gives you a mechanical advantage. Also agree, point a salamander type heater at the tire, get it warm, and things go faster.
 
Hi I had a tire on the front of a Major I wanted off I beat on it with a bar and 14 lb hammer round the bead, It would not budge so sprayed WD40 round both sides of the rim, then it popped right off after 20 mins soak and light adjustment with the bar and hammer. Im not sure what effect the wd has on the tire rubber. after half an hour beating on it first I don't much care lol.
Regards Robert
 
I use down pressure on the loader on our Massey 35 to break beads loose. Just raise the bucket or forks high enough to slide the tire under, get the bead right by the edge of where it will push and away you go. Usually I have to break in three spots at 0,90 and 180 degrees and then a hit with the sledgehammer will pop it off.
Zach
 
NEVER EVER USE any type of oil product on a tire it softens the rubber and that in turn make it stick even more. Dish sop and water if the cheapest and most common thing a guy will have on hand. Next there is a stuff called Murphy's soap that some tires store ave and might sell. The big thing it having the know how and the correct tools for the job and most of the time it is easy but I have the tools and the know how and been doing tires for decades. A good tire hammer be it a slide type of other type or a bead breaker tool is the ticket for the job. I have never had any luck with loader is driving on them or jacks but the correct tool always works
 
there is a product out there called SKID we use it on tough truck tires pour some on and return 5 minutes later and darn near falls off
 
Cheap Ivory dish soap diluted 50/50 with water & a large slide-hammer bead breaker. If you can't get a slide-hammer bead breaker you might try a "Duck-bill" hammer, but be careful of your SHINS.
 

The major deciding factor to me is how long of a "long time?" Not damaging either is a good goal but may not be realistic. You may be able to determine the chances of removal without damage by evaluating a short length of the rim surface that the tire bead contacts. I had to get some junk tires off rims awhile back. After cutting the tire from the bead with my recip saw it was amazing how tough it was to move the bead of the tire at all due to the rust. Beads don't like to stretch much and they have to in order to get them over the rust. After the tire is cut from the bead if you go that route, the bead is easily cut with a cold chisel.
 

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