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Pete76NY

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...been noticing a trend here that is both amusing and I would think annoying to the original poster; Poster asks a question and gets answers that are completely irrelevant to the question. A couple of recent examples: Guy from accross the Pond posts a question asking if Rte 66 can be traveled in a motor home...almost immediately gets answers pertaining to roads in Canada and elsewhere. Not even an attempt to answer the question as asked and then segue into something else; eg: "Sure you can travel Rte 66 in a motor home, parts of it aren't there any more, some are really fun and nostalgic, long distances between services...I would also suggest that if you get the chance maybe you would enjoy traveling (enter road name here)in Canada as it is beautiful and nostalgic also."
Today some poor guy posts a question pertaining to the power of his Farmall H and it's ability (or lack thereof) to pull a running gear in the 2 highest gears as he would like to give hay rides. Immediately he gets a wing dinger of a lecture on the safety of the practice of pulling hay rides in town in the 2 highest gears.
I am sure that eventually some very knowledgeable people answered both questions appropriately, and the poster went away happy, but c'mon...some people just wanna see their own ramblings posted I guess!
 
Yeah, what you say is true, Pete. I guess I stray somewhat from the original subject from time to time, but some do get completely off the subject. As you say, though, usually the initial question is answered, often in two or three different ways, all of which may be correct. And of course, that is the purpose of asking, to determine how many possibilities there may be to solving a specific problem and which may be the most practical solution for the one asking. All the others, especially those so far out in left field, I just enjoy a chuckle and let it go.
 
I'm probably guilty of what you say. Massey333 told me so just the other day....

Most conversations in real life drift all over the place, a conversation on the net from folks on 3 different countries is likely to drift even quicker?

Like you say, most questions get answered, and the extra comment help add a lot of flavor and interest. Without that, every question would just have a single reply, no need for anything else. That would sure get dull.

I agree with your comments, but your ending seems kinda rough - there are so many lurkers on a site like this, we should encourage them to join in more often, not be telling all of us to shut up and stay away. :)

Don't we like the conversation?

Thought that was the point.

Perhaps it would be easier to get short proper on-topic answers if the questions would contain all the info a person needs. How many times do people ask, I got 7 acres, what is the best crop to gow on it???

Well, do you live in Death Valley, or Alaska, do you have clay soil or a rock layer 6 inched under the soil, fill us in.

I didn't read the H parade thread, but I'm headed right there sounds interesting. If someone really did ask about pulling a hayrack in high gear with an H, they _need_ some safety advice in my opinion! :)

It is interesting how subjects change and evolve and veer off track, that's for sure. I just thought that was normal human conversation.

--->Paul
 
I know that I"m guilty. In my defense, sometimes I simply misunderstand the question and other times the original poster has not asked a question, just shown something that they are proud of, which BTW are the posts that most attract me here. I enjoy most of all looking at some of the cool projects that people here do. Did you folks catch the thread about how the member repaired the manure spreader cog? I don"t think he is asking a question. He is merely showing us how he repaired that cog. When he posted the picture of the broken one a day or so ago, I tought he would have to fabricate another one, but I liked seeing not only the end product, but the step by step. (Like I said those threads are my abolute favorite line of threads, which is why I enjoy Georges posts). Do you remember a post recently about where the oil filter on a Dietroit Diesel is mounted? Did you notice that he didn"t tell us what machine this 371 was in? Since it is very common to mount those filters not on the engine, but on the equipment it powers (Not always, but it is common), how do you answer the question? I thought that mentioning that frequently the oil filter is mounted on the frame of the equipment and giving an exemple or two was all I could do. Sorry, Pete. I try to stay on topic, and I do my best. Sometimes I do deviate, however. Feel free to call me on it at the time, so I can correct it then.
 
Well, free advice is often worth exactly what you paid for it. However, often as not the original poster didn't ask the right question, and it's pretty common for folks to point that out, not necessarily in a very tactful manner.

In the case of Bill the Scotchman, he asked if you can travel US-66 in an RV. Well, the answer is obviously "yes". You can travel it on a moped or a Farmall M, for that matter. But I don't think that's what he was really asking. Bill wanted to know if this is a trip folks over here would recommend. And I think he got good feedback on that. (Many Europeans I've talked to have romantic images of US-66; I'm not sure where this comes from.)
 
Speaking of that, it's gonna rain here this weekend. And while we're on the subject, I gotta pay my cell phone bill today. What were we talking about?
 
But...Bill from Scotland said:
"Well guys your comments have been great and will give us lots to think about. Once we have talked through a few ideas I think I will post again for more thoughts. Thanks, Bill"

Would have been boring if all folks had just replied cut & dried answers:
Good idea / bad idea
Yes reasonable camping / No reasonable camping
RV well suited / RV not well suited
Suggest ___ days for trip
 
I figure if you ask a man to give you a free pony and you get the free pony - you can"t object to a little pony poop that comes with it. After all, you still got your money"s worth of pony! (Now, if you have to pay for the pony, then that"s a different story!)
 

This is a good place to have a conversation. Kind of like going down to the local coffee shop or maybe even the break room where you work, but if you're looking for honest answers, well, those answers MIGHT be here, but you'll need to wade through a whole bunch of hot air and do a whole lot of sorting out to determine which remarks actually answer the question.
 
You're right Pete76, sometimes the answers get completely away from the original question. Sometimes so much it makes a person laugh....or get really PO'd. But to me that's what makes YT forums so dang interesting.
 
Getting irrelevant answers is the nature of forums.

90% comes from the lack of reading comprehension. People don't read, or don't understand what they read, and answer the question that they *THINK* was asked.

Example question:

"I just changed the fuel filters on my 856 diesel and it won't start. What is wrong?"

Inevitably, someone will respond with:

"Did you change the fuel filters?"

Happens ALL... THE... TIME...

Keep in mind that responses you get on the forums are worth exactly what you pay for them: ZERO. You gotta figure out who knows what they're talking about and who's giving you bad advice.
 
You are correct and maybe I've been guilty of it too. I guess it's kind of like an internet coffee shop. The direction of that talk can go 180° in a heart beat.
 
Ever notice that someone says "Well my 8N tractor won't start this morning and I did this to it and this". Do you have any idea what could be wrong. There are a few that always spin the answer to "The reason it won't fire is because of who is running the country". What does that have to do with the question asked? I guess we have to think like a combine and separate the wheat from the chaff. Some just like to stir the pot.
 
It comes from many of us on here being older than dirt. We can't remember the subject long enough to finish typing the answer to the post. So we just wing it. LOL

Plus many of us are old enough we don't really care if the answer is PC like they want today.
 
Where else are we gonna get some of these things out there. Somebody will throw a girly fit if we start a new post for every one of these little side topics.

Haven't you ever sat in the coffee shop and wondered how the conversation got off to where it did?
 

Well, I will respond pretty much the same as I have when this same topic has come up before. I look at it as being much like the coffee shop in the AM, The lunch counter at lunch time, or Ed's garage at 5:30. The conversation is going to wander and I see nothing wrong with that. The other thing though, is that there are some who contribute in a manner that despite it being a good contribution is not delivered in a way that is pleasant to others. In the coffee shop situation that person would eventually find others getting up and leaving as he comes in.
 
Answer the question that was asked! Now theres a novel idea lol

Seriously, thats often (NOT always) what I do, in fact I type out QUESTION anD copy and paste their question VERBATIM, then I type out ANSWER and post my answer.

I agree sometimes you see an answer (maybe right maybe wrong as rain) BUT ITS NOT AN ANWER TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED??????

However, I enjoy being here and all the great gentlemen who try thier best to help out and I do my part anytime I can, and I figure if a body dont like the answers given or the format or rules they have the right to NOT read them or to leave, its their free choice, I exercise my choice to try n help out when I can

Fun chat, good foood for thought, you have a great day n God Bless

Ol John T
 
Boy my recommendation that a farmall H isn't the right tractor to safely pull a wagon full of people through busy city streets in high gear really bothered you, didn't it!

Perhpas if you read all the posts you'd see I did try to answer the op about the clutch being his problem, and the question of safety was added after his specific question was answered by myself and others.

Perhaps you should follow conversations more thoroughly before blessing us with your critique of them.

But, ...some people just wanna see their own ramblings posted I guess
 
I agree, sometimes someone will get of topic,and then it seams that discussion turns towards reply instead of original question.
 
(quoted from post at 06:12:02 12/13/12) ...been noticing a trend here that is both amusing and I would think annoying to the original poster; Poster asks a question and gets answers that are completely irrelevant to the question. A couple of recent examples: Guy from accross the Pond posts a question asking if Rte 66 can be traveled in a motor home...almost immediately gets answers pertaining to roads in Canada and elsewhere. Not even an attempt to answer the question as asked and then segue into something else; eg: "Sure you can travel Rte 66 in a motor home, parts of it aren't there any more, some are really fun and nostalgic, long distances between services...I would also suggest that if you get the chance maybe you would enjoy traveling (enter road name here)in Canada as it is beautiful and nostalgic also."
Today some poor guy posts a question pertaining to the power of his Farmall H and it's ability (or lack thereof) to pull a running gear in the 2 highest gears as he would like to give hay rides. Immediately he gets a wing dinger of a lecture on the safety of the practice of pulling hay rides in town in the 2 highest gears.
I am sure that eventually some very knowledgeable people answered both questions appropriately, and the poster went away happy, but c'mon...some people just wanna see their own ramblings posted I guess!
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That is exactly the reason I change my oil every 3 months!
 
And if you want to cross the Big Mac bridge you just get on 127 north and go, it will turn into I75 and eventually go across the bridge. Take some $ for the tolls.
 
Guess you have never had a conversation with my sister in law. Start out with something that is in common with everyone and she can ramble on for an hour about everyone and every subject under the sun before you can even get a word in. Been that way for the 40 years I have known her. See how easy it is to get off the topic? Now we can talk about sister in laws.
 
Sorry but almost no question here can be answered with a simple yes no or maybe. I did in fact answer the route 66 question to the best of my knowledge and did in fact tell him what I knew of that road in Missouri how else could I have done better or worse?????????????/ Few question here are easy to answer and many take a lot of questions and also a lot of explanation to answer.
 
(quoted from post at 10:12:53 12/13/12) Guess you have never had a conversation with my sister in law. Start out with something that is in common with everyone and she can ramble on for an hour about everyone and every subject under the sun before you can even get a word in. Been that way for the 40 years I have known her. See how easy it is to get off the topic? Now we can talk about sister in laws.
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My mother was a master at that. I would be wanting to comment but could never get my voice started quickly enough when she got done with one thought before she went to the next. I kept studying her and finally saw that she would take a breath in the middle of a phrase, so that she didn't need to pause at the end of a sentence. That lady knew how to control a conversation.
 
Quit knocking my team! I bleed orange and brown! But to answer your question? The Browns have as much of a shot at the playoffs as I have of Faith Hill calling me and wanting a date!!
 
RELAX! Too much Starbucks today?

I agree that 5th gear is too much for pulling a hayride on city streets. The problem is inferior Farmall brakes and the fact that the H (or M) couldn't start the load in 5th gear after a red light turns green.

Super H? Different animal due to gearing. With a Super H, 4th gear is faster, fast enough to pull a hay wagon on city streets.

So there's my slightly OT reply!
 
Again that is a yes no or maybe since may answers come by the road of hard knocks so to explain how a person did it in the past in turn helps the person understand things better and maybe how to not make the mistakes others have made
 
66 is over hyped and only a piker would drive a Foamall. By the way, my dog can't have puppies according to the vet. He's fixed....
 
It is difficult to type with the schnauzers on my lap. Bill from scotland would enjoy timing his trip to be able to take part in the 66 Fun Run.
 
AND YOU SAY IT JUST ABOUT RIGHT MOST TIMES.
GOT TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.. IF YOU DON,T LIKE THE ANSWER READ ON OR SKIP IT.. YOU GOT CHOICES.
 
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