Gotta friend who I believe should get an award for being a cheapskate. He bought a JD lawntractor and went to every dealer in the area, beat up on them, and then bought one from Home Despot. And then complained about how bad it was after the deck rusted through after six years of mowing wet grass. He bought a Hyundai Sonata ten years ago, and just got a dealer to replace the engine and tranny after nine years and 90,000 miles to beat the 100,000 mile warranty. Just took a five year old TV back to costco, and had them replace it because he didn't like it and the guy at Costco had told him to bring it back if he wasn't satisfied with it. He traded it for one that was a foot or so bigger, and was now the same price as he paid for the original, and then managed to get about half of that returned because they went on sale a few months later on a closeout. And just told his son to come over to his house and get a bridge pass over the Susquehanna so he wouldn't have to pay the toll. Just so he didn't have to spend $5 on his own vehicles, he gets one sticker, and pastes it onto a magnetic duct cover, and then switches it between cars when he has to go over the bridge. Now, he wants to save the son some bucks, too. I don't believe I've ever encountered anyone quite that cheap....