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Fritz Maurer

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Across the street from my farm there is a village of lo-rent residents. They persist in dumping grass clippings and leaves in the ditch in front of my farm. This is a long ditch with a low percentage of fall, so I have to keep it clean in order for my tile to work. The TWP. is too busy with their new fire truck to worry about ditch cleaning. Sheriff has to catch them in the act, otherwise there's no way to prove which house it came from. City people. Why is a pile of grass unacceptable in their yard, but it looks o.k. 50 feet away, across the street?
 
Dig it out of the ditch with your loader and drive across their yard and dump it on the porch, take the long way across the yard back to the road.

I kept finding empty yogurt cups on the road by our house. Then I noticed the road grader operator taking his lunch break on the side of the road, he threw his lunch sack and yogurt container out the window and ran the grader over top of it when break was over. I called the county commissioner and complained, said he have a talk with him. The operator is an askhole, never waves at me or the kids playing in the yard, never moves over when you come up behind him. The mail lady is the nicest little old lady ever and she has told me she hates him too.

Nate
 
I live right across the road from the city limits. A gravel road just to the north of me is the area dumping ground. My wife takes walks along this road and tells me about all the new stuff she sees every week. Last week somebody threw a chest of draws out. Was made out of particle board and looked like it seen it's better days when it was tossed. Bags of grass clippings, pails of who knows what, mattresses. One time I came across a pretty nice looking sofa bed so I stopped and it looked pretty clean yet. Loaded it up in the truck and put an ad in the paper. Sold it right away for $75.
 
Got to agree with the post that says give it back to them. Since there is no way to prove where it came from in the beginning, there's going to be no way to prove where it came from going back when you make a late night run. Heck it might even get the idiots dumping it in trouble with one of their 'low rent' neighbors who think it was dumped on them, and put a stop to things that way.....
 
Have you actually seen them doing it? Have you talked with them about it, and explained why it cannot be done? What difference does it make if they are low rent people or not.....were you born with a silver spoon in your mouth? So what if they are "city people", as you put it; county people do the same things.

bob
 
In Vermont the whole state won't bury their own garbage. Public garbage service is minimal if available and all the people seem to just put it in the neighbors yard.

If you mow your lawn make sure you spew it next door.

If you trim the woods just push it over the property line.

They hate garbage in the name of green.

I watch as some stop by the grocery and deposit it like a return in the garbage can at the entrance.


It's magic it just dissapears the green way.
 
After reading some of the other posts sounds very familiar. Our oil road out front is less than 2 miles long. There are 3 roads it intersects with. Our road is the first cross road on the south side of town. People leave home, come down our road and throw out furniture, tires, trash, you name it, then they circle back around and go home. I always think, why don't they just drop this crap off by a public trash can in one of the parks. I would think doing that would be less punishable than littering along a public road. I think I'm going to write the newspaper...
 
No I'm not. Has he (OP) talked whomever is dumping the grass? Doesn't say yes or no. Does it matter if they are city or country folk? No it doesn't matter, but it is in the complaint. Does it matter if they are low income or rich? No, it doesn't matter, but there again, it's in the venting. This is someone who wants to complain, instead of finding the culprit and tell them to stop dumping their mowing in his drainage ditch.
 
Around here, you can tell when you ar 10 miniutes away from a Micky Ds or BK!! the garbage trail begins and continues for a couple miles until the soda container is tossed!!!
Loren, the Acg.
 
I still cannot figure why people take the clippings off the yard every time. It will mulch down and refeed the yard. I only do it when the yard is very long, even mulch the leaves.

They are not harvesting hay to sell.
 
If its a low rent resident area most likely the occupants are not the ones doing it. Most don't own a lawnmower and would be too lazy to haul it anywhere if they did cut their grass.

What you probably have is a lawn service that is under a government contract to cut the grass at the projects and is required to haul it away.
 
I must live in a different neighborhood, the biggest find in the county road ditchs is the several dozen beer cans and bottles the 2x a year I mow the ditches for hay.

--->Paul
 
My parent's house is on a fairly busy road. They've passed away, but I still keep the house up.

It's got about 100' of frontage - and every time I go there to mow the lawn, I've got to pick up all the trash first.

It really amazes me that people feel it's ok to just toss so much out their windows, and so regularly. Soda bottles and cigarette packages seem to be a favorite.

It gets to the point where I have to wonder if it's not personal.

I can't imagine THAT many people smoke AND litter - that they're tossing cigarette packs out the window at the rate of one or two per week per 100 feet of roadway. Eventually the road sides would be covered with them.

I've walked up and down the road and haven't see all that much trash in the woods - but it's hard to say for sure.

It's a very nice house for the town it's in. People always thought we were rich when I was a kid (though nothing could have been further than the truth).

So I do wonder if there's a stick-it-to-the-man effect that makes the house a target. Or maybe somebody in town hated my parents???

I don't know - but point is - I feel your pain.

People are annoying.
 
We did lots of traveling when I was growing up. We never threw ANYTHING out the window!

Today, people think nothing of tossing trash out the window. Even worse, they change a diaper in the car and leave the dirty one in the parking lot.

Several years ago, I was working in the right of way by our farm. A couple of young males (being a man is a choice) came by. One looked right at me as he threw his banana peel out. He needs to be very glad looks don't kill or he would have fried on the spot.
 
3 houses below me border us near the old farmstead, house and barns, old fence at their back yards, used to be lawn, hedge clippings, old potted plants, not harmful, but I get sick of it, put it in the loader and dump back on their side, bust their chops, just replaced a section of fence, put a sign up. Thing is, they knew me well enough and know I will not hesitate to take action, though I keep that to myself, oh crap that old D7 got away from me, headed right at your house, look out....... get my drift, most people know well enough to keep their distance in this town, mostly due to those who used to test us in the past.

Some neighbors I don't like, so I avoid them, right now the 3 down there don't cause any trouble, best left that way, in years past it was different, funny thing, is I bother no one, ever, for any reason, expect the same, but we all know how that goes.
 
What bothers me is the larger trash - like tires. There"s one large one in the ditch down the road in the edge of my swamp right now. I"ll have to pay to have it disposed of. Can"t burn them, township contracted garbage service won"t take them. Old tire recyclers want several dollars a copy to take them off your hands. Beer cans are common, but often picked up by passers-by or some one riding down the roadsides on a bicycle collecting them for the return deposit.

Having a township wide garbage service paid by a millage solves a lot of the trash accumulation in back yards, garages, etc. No one has an excuse when the truck is out front every Monday. That doesn't cover yard waste, but folks can still burn that here, or plow it into the garden, etc.
 
Try that anywhere. I am out in Howell, I swear it's majic, darn thing fills itself!! Really got me a few weeks ago, the dumpster guy came into the shop - he couldn't take some paint cans - about 20, including some 5 gallon pails. Now I have to get rid of somebody eles's crap. Nobody wants to pay for garbage disposal, they just dump it somewhere.
 
OP & sheriff haven't been able to figure out who is dumping yet to talk to them.

It does matter and you can characterize people by income and whether they are city or country. I'm sure the folks dumping are oblivious to the problem. Not evil or bad, just ignorant.

I have different discussions with potential tenants based on background. It helps set the tone of what I expect from them. As an example: you have to tell a city person moving to the country that there is no curbside trash pickup and that THEY have to take the trash to the dumpster out back.

Low rent implies RENTERS! I manage properties and my low rent clients DO NOT have the same values and principles as my low income homeowner clients.

Renters WILL tear stuff up and because it's not theirs renters WILL NOT take care of it like homeowners it will.

Non of this is in any way prejudice! I do not discriminate against any of them. It sure makes my life easier, and theirs, to recognize differences in people and manage accordingly.
 
and so you've lit my fuse! I routinely walk through a nearby cemetery to keep an eye on things and it's a good, quite place for a walk. A few days ago I found that someone reached the conclusion that dumping their broken sofa IN THE CEMETERY was somehow morally acceptable. Herman Melville said it best: "for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."
 
it does matter, the white trash people around here are too lazy to even scoop the snow away from the door or pick up the trash in their own yard and usually have an a$$ as wide as a truck, too much time at the hog feeder and too little time trying to make a living or even trying to improve their lot in life, meanwhile the rest of us are paying their rent, cell phone bills, utilities and buying their food
 
Nancy believe it or not in most states it not illegal to toss your apple core or banana peel out. If it came from the earth without any changes then it's OK to toss it. Dumb laws HUH.
Walt
 
JRSutton,

Oh yeah! People do whatever they want, where ever they want. We mow our road ditches so they look nice - and people freely toss garbage into them as they drive by. It is annoying!

When traveling, we keep all trash in our car until we get home or to a gas station with waste receptacles. Just common decency...but there is VERY LITTLE of that in people anymore.
 
Might want to research your local laws. IIRC Michigan law had some features that forced the county and state to be a little more active on drain maintenance and my limited exposure to Wisconsin law indicates they too have similar laws. One that come to mind was diminished value on property taxes if drains weren't maintained. This became effective two ways first through a property tax appeal, meaning you challenged the accessed value of your property based on the fact the non-functioning drain limits the productivity of the land and thus diminishes it's value. There was also an appeal/ legal process where you could sue the State/County/Town if a feature they built and are supposed to maintain limits or impedes drainage and get a cash reward if they don't correct the problem. We dealt with both of them on our farm as the road came across a swamp/drain and the culvert under the road was to high, not large enough to carry adequate volume during the spring thaw and rains and the culvert often became plugged. When it got plugged between our place and the neighbors their would be 30-40 acres flooded. First time we appealed the taxes they were right out to clean the culvert. Second time they installed a larger culvert at a lower level, that fixed the problem, the road didn't flood after that either.
 
You have to do what a buddy of mine did years ago when a dog would squat down to go poop. Use a BB gun to hit the dog in the rear and it would leave. So, get a BB gun when they are about to dump their grass and they might get a hint. Or dump your garbage on their trailer park lots. Food for thought.
 
I have a neighbor that moved out from town and uses my place for a dump.He dumps leaves,fire place ashes and yard waste over the fence on my side.I took my backhoe,cleaned the mess up and dumped it in his yard.Haven't had a problem since.
 
Have a van the goes by every day, finally saw then toss their taco bell cups. Ran up to the house jumped in the truck with the cups and went to their house.
Lady acts all b!tchy, like how could I accuse her and her sons of littering. Showed her the names she had wrote on the cups in marker, end of story. No more trash in front of my house, maybe once a month, before this happened it was every day. She looked like she enjoyed a little to much fast food anyway.

Now the one kid stops by wanting to shovel my sidewalk all the time (for money of course).

Go figure.
 
(quoted from post at 05:46:03 11/20/12) No I'm not. Has he (OP) talked whomever is dumping the grass? Doesn't say yes or no. Does it matter if they are city or country folk? No it doesn't matter, but it is in the complaint. Does it matter if they are low income or rich? No, it doesn't matter, but there again, it's in the venting. This is someone who wants to complain, instead of finding the culprit and tell them to stop dumping their mowing in his drainage ditch.
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The point is that people, especially low rent welfare rats and citiots have no respect for private property or the landscape in general. It's that simple.
 
We have the same sh!t on the farm here too. Surrounded by the city, lots of houses and not many have respect. We've had people in the past dump their grass clippings on our side. I went up with the loader and pushed it all back on thier side. No problems since.

I also made a post earlier this summer about a gal who let a bag blow into our field and I caught heII on here because I was picking on her and it wasn't her fault. You can certainly tell who deals with it and who doesn't.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 

Well don't you feel sorry for the poor folks who somehow lose a piece of paper out of their car window that has their name and address on it? And then some jerk comes along and dumps a big load of trash on top of it. Like in the Thanksgiving song Alice's Restaurant? I was a trustee of some town owned land once and there was a place on a back road that I tried to keep an eye on. A couple times I found trash dumped and I poked through it and found a paper with a name and address on it. I took them to the police chief and somehow he would get the people to come and pick up the trash and then have them walk up and back the road a half mile picking up all the trash.
 
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