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tomtirediron

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Being only 40 I've only seen but a handfull of elections since 18. I'm finding myself getting worse every presidential election in regard to general stress and non-sleep. I guess I'm getting older (and supposed to be wiser)and am starting to realize how much is at stake. I can't fall asleep on election night or am awake every hour checking the TV. I find even having a few cold ones don't take the edge off. If we're looking at a positive change in the whitehouse tommrow night and it's close I'll be up all night. Anyone else here suffer the same insanity?
I know Wednesday at work I won't be worth a chit.
Tom B.
 
I'm considerably older than you (the first election I lived through was Roosevelt's third), but this is the first one I've had a fear that the very fate of this country was at stake.
 
The way I see it, we're either voting for a snake or a donkey. Not much difference between the 2, and not much will change. The new will blame the old, promises will be broken, tons more BS will be slung, and the US will still be in massive debt. I doubt I'll live to see the US pull itself out of debt, and I'm only 28.

Nothing but liars, cheats, and theives in politics. Either way we're screwed.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
Donovan from Wisconsin
Well said I'm 72 have severe asbestosis voted absente Libertarian but a strong Ron Paul Backer
 
Nothing to worry about .. for two days now media says O has it in Pa .. Haven't met anyone yet voting for him.. Media has first pick the rest will follow.. I'm not happy either way
 
The USA and its people will still survive no-matter how all the idividual elections go. If you get caught up in the hype and get all worked up about it you just stress yourself out and make life harder for youself and the people around you. I do my part and then I don't worry about what I can't control.
 
I feel the same way . My bloodpressure is up and I am worryed .I do feel Romney means what he says , dont mean he will be able to do it though . He sure aint doin it for the money ! If we let O stay in OUR house we are in trouble , may as well get in the soup line and sign up for our share .
 
I've seen quite a few elections, and every one has been "the most important election ever!". Here's what I'd suggest. Think back on the elections you've lived through and think about how much has actually *really* changed after each one. The fact is that very little usually changes, they all promise change, but real change rarely happens. Romney is a moderate nnalert who governed a Democratic state, external_link is a more like a 1990's nnalert than a radically abundant nnalert. In other words there's almost no difference between them.

So stop losing sleep, the country will still be here and still be in the same path it's been on for the last 30 years in 2016. Yawn....
 
All the candidates lie, it's just that some lie more than others. Our country will survive the next four years no matter who gets elected.
It really is amazing that voters believe just a fraction of what comes out of their mouths.
 

So, I guess you are saying that the Country is "Too Big to Fail"..???

Better re-think that idea...

If Romney gets in, I have no doubt he will will be villianized for making cuts to try to balance the "Budget"..(assuming we have a Budget)..
Those 47% on the Dole just might find they have to do some "Work", for their money too.. and the "unemployment" riders will not see any extensions.
Imagine..an "America' where everyone must actually "Work" or go HUNGRY...
Not a bad idea, I'd say..
Now, for that Voter Referendum, making ALL Exemptions the Senators have given theirselves ILLEGAL...we NEED to work on that, next..
Ron..
 
(quoted from post at 13:52:56 11/06/12)
So, I guess you are saying that the Country is "Too Big to Fail"..???

Better re-think that idea...

If Romney gets in, I have no doubt he will will be villianized for making cuts to try to balance the "Budget"..(assuming we have a Budget)..
Those 47% on the Dole just might find they have to do some "Work", for their money too.. and the "unemployment" riders will not see any extensions.
Imagine..an "America' where everyone must actually "Work" or go HUNGRY...
Not a bad idea, I'd say..
Now, for that Voter Referendum, making ALL Exemptions the Senators have given theirselves ILLEGAL...we NEED to work on that, next..
Ron..
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Not saying that the country won't fail, just saying that neither of these guys is going to change the path we're on. No saviors to be seen in this election

As for your being on the "dole", that 47% thing is the biggest misspeak in this whole election. My 90 year old mother is in that 47% at this point in her life - are you saying she should go get a job or starve? Nice...
 
Its amazing how people aren't worried about the direction the country is going. More and more people don't work, more and more people demand its their right to get things free, and others just think its normal.
It sickens me to watch this happen.
 
I won"t be staying up all night to watch the returns. Election may not be decided for days.

Change I would like: I would really like to have a candidate that I actually liked. I would like to vote FOR a candidate rather than against the other guy or voting for the lesser of two evils.
 
That is just one saying that the press got a hold of and ran with it. Actually, 47% is a very low number. Most farmers are on the "dole", it's just that they are not unemployed, just getting government payments. Kids eating school lunches are on the dole because the government kicks in to help pay for them, but most of their parents are no unemployed. State colleges are on the dole because the government kicks in to help pay tuition, but you can't call a college administrator unemployed. Road constructions crews are on the dole because the government pays for road maintenance. Probably about 85% of the American people could be considered to be on the dole, but they are not unemployed. The press just had a field day with it. It's how they justify their job.
 
Yup. Lots of doom and gloom out there, I am confident that this coutry will not only survive, but thrive, regardless of who wins.
 
I used to stay up watching it but now I figure once I cast my one vote I have done all I can so no use worrying. The truth is that a majority of Americans have forgotten or never knew what the constitution is and how that document made us the only free nation on earth. Even if we get a new leader today it won't be because the majority of people were voting for rule of law, the preservation of Americans rights and values and common decency it will be because they think Mitt can bring prosperity back, I happen to believe he will do that if elected but I also know that the economy would correct itself if the government quit meddling with it.
 
I think everyone should remember why external_link was elected in the first place. Remember what the country was in this time four years ago. How people forget. A lot of you people hate to see unemployment and other gov. programs. But you never mention all the big money the gov. gives the farmers. Farmers in my area are getting 16/17.00 beans and corn is high and they get 60.00 an acre to plant cover crop. WHY. Just take 60.00 an acre times a couple 1000 acres times 100's of farmers in my area WOW tax money going to a good cause huh. That's why farmers in my area have multiple farms. One farmer was bragging he just purchased #19 off of gov money. So when you are upset about some guy getting unemployment or some other gov program lets get rid of all of it and see where were at. By the way I don't get any gov money. I do get SS but I paid in that for a long time...ED
 
The 47% comment from Romney seems to have been misunderstood. I listened to the whole clip and it seems he was saying that there is 47% of the people that will never vote for him and he's not going to worry about them, implying he's not going to expend resources trying to get them to vote for him. I don't think the implication is he won't respond to them or address their issues if elected. He was making a statement that they won't vote for him so he isn't worried about their support and focus his efforts on people that actually might vote for him.
 
(quoted from post at 18:26:07 11/06/12) The 47% comment from Romney seems to have been misunderstood. I listened to the whole clip and it seems he was saying that there is 47% of the people that will never vote for him and he's not going to worry about them, implying he's not going to expend resources trying to get them to vote for him. I don't think the implication is he won't respond to them or address their issues if elected. He was making a statement that they won't vote for him so he isn't worried about their support and focus his efforts on people that actually might vote for him.
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Wis - he said much more than that.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Again I'll defend my 90 year old mother. She went to college at an age when most women didn't, and then helped win a world war. She married a vet, and starting raising three kids. When her husband, my father died, when I was 13 she went back to school and got another degree, got a job and and finished raising us kids, sending two to college. She has worked hard for what she has, has never felt like a victim, and doesn't think she is entitled to "you-name-it", she only feels she's entitled to what she has earned. She doesn't feel the government has a responsibility to care for her, so is not dependent on government. She has a very high degree of personal responsibility and cares for her own life. She is a fine US Citizen, proud of her country, yet she is one of the 47% that Romney has no pride in and has deeply insulted. People like him are a much bigger problem in this country than people like her.
 
Like my grandfather used to say, out with one crook and in
with another! We won't see any changes. Same old bs.
 
Picking a politician is alot like going to the lumber store and picking out some lumber to build a deck. You know all the lumber is going to have some crook to it. You just pick threw the stack and get the ones you think will hold an straight edge for the longest amount of time. :lol:
 
People are very short sighted if they don't think there is a difference in the direction that these 2 candidates will take this country in. Look at the new taxes that will be implemented just after the election by external_linkcare.
 
The Farmers are only participating in a scheme that is legal... it's their SS, they paid taxes also.no different to you.
 
(quoted from post at 06:29:57 11/06/12) Its amazing how people aren't worried about the direction the country is going. More and more people don't work, more and more people demand its their right to get things free, and others just think its normal.
It sickens me to watch this happen.
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I was concerned enough to actually go work for the Romney campaign. You still have to remember that God is in control and his plan may be that we need to be brought down for our own good.
 
(quoted from post at 15:53:09 11/07/12) What 47% is she a part of?
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t this time in her life - 90 years old, retired - she is one of the 47% of Americans who pay no federal income tax. According to Romney's comment that made her guilty of all the rest of his list of evils...

Which is NOT to say she pays no taxes, of course.
 
She is most certainly not one that he was referring
to. But you know better.

Like how it's great that we borrow 4 billion
dollars every single day. No, that's not an issue
anyone should care about. Your hurt feelings
matter much more.
 
He wasn't referring to Social Security and Medicare
you kook. Just how think is your head?

Or did you already have preconceived feelings about
Romney and this is just a good way for you to
express it. You sound very abundant, just looking to
be a victim of something.
 
His words, not mine.

I don't disagree with your debt comments, but funny how the guy who made his money by creating debt to be paid off by others is the one who was going to fix that?

I did call his 47% comment a mis-speak, but I'm not sure it doesn't reveal in him an underlying disdain for those who don't travel in his circles. Remember, in his business model (Bain again) companies are not something that provide jobs and build things or provide services, they're something to be "harvested" for profit. Again, his words, not mine...
 
Hope everyone is ready for a pay cut at the beginning of the year and a tax penalty if you don't have health insurance through the external_linkcare policy. It's coming, get ready for it. Only people it won't affect is the poverty class who don't have a job to begin with and don't want one.

Myself, I hope I am still employed. external_link has made life miserable on the coal industry. All the "in the know" coal gurus say the coal industry is in for doom and gloom with external_link. I have seen strong signs of this happening over the past 2 years. It will only get worse. If power demand comes back to normal, be ready for some blackouts because external_link's standards is causing fossil plants to get mothballed everyday and new ones are not replacing them.

Joking with my wife (she has her own business) about shutting it down and living off government handouts. Less stress, more time to do other things, and a steady paycheck. The external_link way!
 
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