Spring back ahead fall.......i giive up

Well its 4:27 according to the cell phone, 3:14 according to the i pad and 4:14 according to the battery clock onthe wall. I give up. Im gonna get my coffee and go out in the barn. Wish i still had a wind up watch.

I was u? at the sho? at 230am, new time. its gonna take me a year ta get used to the time change

Nothing changes in AZ; we don't do DST.

Wife leaves for work at 4:30 , she was gone about 5 min. and I remembered about the time change so I called her so she had a hour to kill . She came back home and fixed me breakfast . T-bone , 2 eggs sunnyside up , hashbrowns and wheat toast to sop it all up . Got a new look at this time change stuff !

What I can't figure out is do we lose an hour of daylight in the morning or the evening.

Dog is at the door wondering why I'm not outside.

I reset all the clocks last night, but I been up for an hour and that alarm clock just rang. We lose the light in the evening James, been dark here until 730 latley.

If you would put a clock in the dog house or get the dog a wrist watch you would not have that problem. Whoops dogs don"t have a wrist.

Why don't you spray some wd-40 on that there dang "p" button. Only half awake here, Read your post and thought you were Me.

I wish they would just pick a side... and then leave it one way or the other. Don't care which way - just don't like the body-clock adjustments twice per year.

James you lose an hour early this evening. It will be very noticeable.

That's true, Have to get the dang dog a cell phone. That way he could call James when he wanted something.

There you go SweetFeet! Just move it a half hour once and be done with it! :shock:

You should live in Indiana we have 4 or 5 counties that are always on a different from the rest of the state.

Sweet that is how it use to be in Indiana until our current governor pushed for a change. Now we have cows dieing each time the clocks are changed. One way to cull the heard.....

right yeare ago majority voted to stay on what is or was known as fast time That was ok . then our screw up govenor decided we should go on DOUBLE fast time.

YUCK, dark at 5:30 tonight.

Indiana used to be on the same time year around - no spring back, fall forward nonsense. Our governor fixed all that by going to day light savings time a couple years back. He explained it all by saying, everyone would know what time Indiana was on and make us a more business friendly State. Smart feller - I would have never figured that out. It still confuses me when I think about it.

I thought I had everything covered when we went to bed last night. Three kitchen clocks changed and the rest should take care of themselves. Found out this morn the alarm clock, the most important one that is SUPPOSED to change to regular time automatically, was set on the wrong date. It showed 11/3 instead of 11/4! Took fifteen minutes to figure out how to change the date after I figured out it was wrong.

But there's more. There's two tractors, three pickups, and a car left to do. Well, two pickups, The 79 Dodge can stay where it is. Jim

I got tired of changing my watch back and forth about twenty years ago. Left it set an hour ahead one fall and been on daylight savings time ever since. Wondered why the computer clock was an hour behind this morning.

Why do farmers care what time it is by the clock?
Half the time I don't even know what day it is and could care less as do most of the animals.

You obviously don't produce milk.

You're right I let the wife handle that one.

So what time did I wake up this morning. Four clocks in the place and none say the same. Plus one of those fancy Atomic clocks(run by a battery). That still says it is yesterday.

I think the time change thing is a dumb thing that should be part of the past. Lots of folks work at jobs that see them leave home in the dark, and return home in the dark anyway. Our kids used to get on the bus in the dark at 6:50 am. No big deal. As time changes go though, I like to have the fall back better than the spring forward. All done milking ,cows fed and cleaned out,and back in the house in good time this morning. So I am going to take the missus out for breakfast. Bruce

You got that right, Hemihead. We milked about 35 head. Dad had a "day job" (carpenter), so we milked at about 4:30 AM. My job (age 8 or so) was to go get the cows out of the pasture in the morning. What a disaster when we went on daylight time in the spring- cows thought it was 3:30, and were still asleep. I'd no sooner get one on her feet and going and 3 others would lay back down and go to sleep. Took FOREVER!

But of course, in the fall, when we went back on standard time, they'd be lined up outside the holding pen, and all I had to do was open the gate and let 'em in.

I had to wait until the sun came up this morning to change my "SUNDIAL" to DSL,.... it was just too dark at 2:00 AM to see what I was doing with it.

DST is just more "bureaucratic bullsheet" that serves no logical purpose.

What is DSL?

(quoted from post at 12:23:33 11/04/12) What is DSL?

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hould have been "DST".

No problem here in Sask. where it is the same time all year round. Never need to change the clocks. Some day the rest of the world will figure out that you can't make your blanket longer by cutting a piece of the bottom and sewing it onto the top. The sun rises and sets regardless of what we do with the clocks and there are only so many hours of daylight in a day.

Nobody posted why they do change the time ? I was told once that it's so it will be brighter in the mornings for the kids going to school and buses. I Could be totally wrong though.

If you live near the equator, day and night are nearly the same length (12 hours). But elsewhere on Earth, there is much more daylight in the summer than in the winter. The closer you live to the North or South Pole, the longer the period of daylight in the summer. Thus, Daylight Saving Time (Summer Time) is usually not helpful in the tropics, and countries near the equator generally do not change their clocks.

A poll conducted by the U.S. Department of Transportation indicated that Americans liked Daylight Saving Time because "there is more light in the evenings / can do more in the evenings." A 1976 survey of 2.7 million citizens in New South Wales, Australia, found 68% liked daylight saving. Indeed, some say that the primary reason that Daylight Saving Time is a part of many societies is simply because people like to enjoy long summer evenings, and that reasons such as energy conservation are merely rationalizations.

According to some sources, DST saves energy. Studies done by the U.S. Department of Transportation in 1975 showed that Daylight Saving Time trims the entire country's electricity usage by a small but significant amount, about one percent each day, because less electricity is used for lighting and appliances. Similarly, in New Zealand, power companies have found that power usage decreases 3.5 percent when daylight saving starts. In the first week, peak evening consumption commonly drops around five percent.

The rationale behind the 1975 study of DST-related energy savings was that energy use and the demand for electricity for lighting homes is directly related to the times when people go to bed at night and rise in the morning. In the average home, 25 percent of electricity was used for lighting and small appliances, such as TVs and stereos. A good percentage of energy consumed by lighting and appliances occurred in the evening when families were home. By moving the clock ahead one hour, the amount of electricity consumed each day decreased.

In the summer, people who rose before the sun rises used more energy in the morning than if DST were not in effect. However, although 70 percent of Americans rose before 7:00 a.m., this waste of energy from having less sunlight in the morning was more than offset by the savings of energy that results from more sunlight in the evening.

In the winter, the afternoon Daylight Saving Time advantage is offset for many people and businesses by the morning's need for more lighting. In spring and fall, the advantage is generally less than one hour. So, the rationale was that Daylight Saving Time saves energy for lighting in all seasons of the year, but it saves least during the four darkest months of winter (November, December, January, and February), when the afternoon advantage is offset by the need for lighting because of late sunrise.

In addition, less electricity was thought to be used because people are home fewer hours during the "longer" days of spring and summer. Most people plan outdoor activities in the extra daylight hours. When people are not at home, they don't turn on the appliances and lights.

Although a 1976 report by the National Bureau of Standards disputed the 1975 U.S. Department of Transportation study, and found that DST-related energy savings were insignificant, the DOT study continued to influence decisions about Daylight Saving Time.

The argument in favor of saving energy swayed Indiana, where until 2005, only about 16 percent of counties observed Daylight Saving Time. Based on the DOT study, advocates of Indiana DST estimated that the state’s residents would save over $7 million in electricity costs each year. Now that Indiana has made the switch, however, researchers have found the opposite to be the case. Scientists from the University of California, Santa Barbara, compared energy usage over the course of three years in Indiana counties that switched from year-round Standard Time to DST. They found that Indianans actually spent $8.6 million more each year because of Daylight Saving Time, and increased emissions came with a social cost of between $1.6 million and $5.3 million per year. Commentators have theorized that the energy jump is due to the increased prevalence of home air conditioning over the past 40 years, in that more daylight toward the end of a summer’s day means that people are more likely to use their air conditioners when they come home from work.

However, the Indiana research findings don’t necessarily apply elsewhere. In cooler climates, for example, energy savings may well occur.

In addition, some argue that there is a public health benefit to Daylight Saving Time, as it decreases traffic accidents. Several studies in the U.S. and Great Britain have found that the DST daylight shift reduces net traffic accidents and fatalities by close to one percent. An increase in accidents in the dark mornings is more than offset by the evening decrease in accidents.

However, recent research indicates that pedestrian fatalities from cars soar at 6:00 p.m. during the weeks after clocks are set back in the fall. Walkers are three times as likely to be hit and killed by cars right after the switch than in the month before DST ends. Researchers from Carnegie Mellon University, who found a 186 percent jump in the risk of being killed by a car for every mile walked, speculate that drivers go through an adjustment period when dusk arrives earlier. Although the risk drops in the morning, because there are fewer pedestrians at 6:00 a.m., the lives saved in the morning don’t offset those lost in the evening.

This research corroborates a 2001 study by researchers at the University of Michigan, which found that 65 pedestrians were killed by car crashes in the week before DST ended, and 227 pedestrians were killed in the week following the end of DST.

There may also be an economic benefit to DST, as daylight evening hours encourage people to go out and shop, potentially spurring economic growth.

Idea of Daylight Saving Time

The idea of daylight saving was first conceived by Benjamin Franklin (portrait at right) during his sojourn as an American delegate in Paris in 1784, in an essay, "An Economical Project." Read more about Franklin's essay.

Some of Franklin's friends, inventors of a new kind of oil lamp, were so taken by the scheme that they continued corresponding with Franklin even after he returned to America.

The idea was first advocated seriously by London builder William Willett (1857-1915) in the pamphlet, "Waste of Daylight" (1907), that proposed advancing clocks 20 minutes on each of four Sundays in April, and retarding them by the same amount on four Sundays in September. As he was taking an early morning a ride through Petts Wood, near Croydon, Willett was struck by the fact that the blinds of nearby houses were closed, even though the sun was fully risen. When questioned as to why he didn't simply get up an hour earlier, Willett replied with typical British humor, "What?" In his pamphlet "The Waste of Daylight" he wrote:

"Everyone appreciates the long, light evenings. Everyone laments their shortage as Autumn approaches; and everyone has given utterance to regret that the clear, bright light of an early morning during Spring and Summer months is so seldom seen or used."

Dave2,

I love it!

Just made it my desktop background pic for a few days.

You don't need to make your cows adjust. Take care of your livestock by your own clock, one that is 1/2 hour off all year long. That is how my uncle milked his cows forever.

Milk by your own clock that is 1/2 hour off all year long. Your cows will love you for that.

About 25 years ago I set the clock the wrong direction. I sat in my truck for two hours waiting for it to get light enough to go deer hunting. I am MUCH more careful about the time change now. I could not find a radio station that would give the time either.
Sde

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So the rest of the World has to revolve around the
.00000000001% of the population that milks cows and has another job?