Ford 4000

Hello,

I have a Ford 4000 or 4400, I don't know which. I inherited from my father. It was a highway department mowing tractor which has low profile wheels. This thing looks like about 12" rims on the front and maybe 20" on the rear. It's a 3 cylinder gas engine that ran good the best of my knowledge. What I need to know is what other wheels and tires can I buy to raise the clearance of the tractor. I won't be mowing any steep grades with this tractor anymore and might want to put a loader on it.

I have a 4000 TLB, with 16.9x28 rears, either 15 or 16 on the front. Many Ford backhoes have 26 inch rears.

What is the model number, could it be a 5110 or 531? I worked on a Golf course that had Ford tractors our two mowing tractors were a 2110 and 231. Both LCG (low center of gravity) Seems other than tires, gear ratios and the front axle they were some kind of Ford 3000 series tractors. I was responsible for updating the 2110 by purchasing new rims and tires to go to the wider higher flotation tire, that was a bolt on swap out. The other possibility is it could be a regular utility tractor. Back to your question I could take the rear tires off of our Ford 3000 with the mounted hydro-gang mower and bolt them onto the 231 or 2110 however the tractor would slope 15-20 degree to the front because the LCG tractor had different front axle that caused the front of the tractor to be 15-20 inches lower than the row crop 3000. I think they used about the same size front tire. We also had a 2000 LCG with an industrial loader, the LCG front end wasn't heavy enough for the loader. I guess what I'm saying is post a model number, if it's a LCG I wouldn't recommend putting a loader on it and if you really want to put bigger tires on it you'll probably want/need to change the front end out or at least the axle ends and spindles. If it's a regular utility tractor you have more tire combinations you can use without changing axles and it'll probably do okay with a loader.

It sounds like you have a LCG model.

If so, you can convert to 28" rear rims/tires and 16" fronts.

Be advised that the LCG spindles are significantly shorter so even with the 16" front rims it will still sit lower than the AG models in the front.

Dean

Sounds like a 4110 (4000 LCG).
You can change the wheels... but unless you change the axle ratio you're going to have a wildly fast tractor. Truthfully, I don't remember if those things changed their ratios on the transmission output or the differential. Or mabey both...
I'd hardly think it worth the aggravation and expense to change the wheels. Just sell the damn thing for what you get and buy something else more usefull. You'll be time and money ahead by the time you're done.

Rod

Everyone is right. I have a 2110 which is a 2000/3000 with short stubby axles. I plan to change them out if a good deal comes around. Until then, I put 12.4/28 on the back and 7.50-16 on the front. Almost level. Had to install the fronts dish out to insure enough clearance for the steering cylinders.

Here are some before and after pics





I have seen the 4110 version and it is very similar in overall size to mine.

I don't agree about wildly fast. Yes it can go faster in 8th gear on the road, but first is still slow enough to run my square baler and not overfeed the pickup.

I am not advocating others to do what I did. If I knew better, I would have not bought it. Having what I have now, a mutt, is ok for my needs. If I sell it, it will be to buy a more powerful diesel tractor, but as it sets, it gets the job done and works well for raking, square baling and running the bushhog.

Tires and rims were expensive. I had to buy rear rims, and centers. Then used tires that did not hold up, so bought new imports this year. Fronts needed new rims and found a good set of used rib tires. Could have used old truck tires there. Good used tires in the 28 in size are rare. I spent $1100 to get where I am at now. $700 of that was for the new import tires (not pictured) when I finally gave up trying to find good used tires.

Rod is right, sell it and buy something more appropriate to your needs.

John

John,

Your before picture is a exact copy of the one I have. My rear tires are rotted and since the tractor is up at the farm in Oklahoma I don"t have the tire size available. I"ve been thinking about just getting it runing put some tires on it and selling it like others suggested.
What tire size were the originals.

I still have the tires, both front and rear. Make you a deal!

Where do you live? Got a trip to Dallas planned for December. Maybe could arrange something. Here is a pic...



I will go out later this morning and get the sizes for you...

John

How much do you want for the set?

http://carbondale.craigslist.org/grd/3251536833.html

Give me a call to work out the details - number in the ad

John

I never got your number. Still have the LGC wheels and tires? What would you ask for them. Still making a trip to Texas.