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I'm looking to buy a 30hp. compack tractor.Don't like to buy foreign but thats all that seems to be out there.
Anybody have experience with Kioti tractors?
Tell me what you can...good...bad or whatever.
Thanks...Jimmy
 
BIL has one it will do SOME work, but you have to be CAREFUL - there is a FINE line between working and doing in the tractor. I'd not recommend them. Have to be REAL careful on implements you get, too. My 8N is a better machine, except for loader work.
 
(quoted from post at 07:16:25 10/15/12) I'm looking to buy a 30hp. compack tractor.Don't like to buy foreign but thats all that seems to be out there.
Anybody have experience with Kioti tractors?
Tell me what you can...good...bad or whatever.
Thanks...Jimmy
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Don't know anything about them, don't even know of a dealer in my area. Typed in my zip , none within 100 miles. For my area that's kinda a bad sign to me. We have a lot of lake shore owners and small hobby farms in the area and compacts are very popular. If you can't get or have poor dealer support you could be in trouble. Not saying they are a bad tractor but do yourself a favor and check on dealer support before you buy. If you get it and the dealers folds or drops the line because of problems or lack of sales it's the same thing as bad support. You really don't want to get caught with having to mail order/online order parts. I'm going through that with my JCB TLB right now. That sucker is going down the road first chanch I get! Now my closest dealer is well over 100 miles.

Rick
 
There where several Kioti dealers around me twenty years ago. Now there are zero. So parts mean a drive to the nearest dealer. It seems like they will make any small repair shop a dealer. Then the guy sells a few and finds out he is not going to get rich and he quits.

The tractors themselves are not different than many of the other lesser brands of Compact tractors. I mean the TYM, Brandson, Century, Montana, etc. They all are Korean or Indian built.

If I was buy that type of tractor I would look at a Mahindra. They are a larger company that seems more stable. There are quite a few of them around. I have ran them they are not the heavy utility tractors most on this site use. So you need to know what you really want to use it for.
 
They aren't really a bad tractor, they are built by DaeDong machinery in Korea. IMHO they are on par with Kubota as far as quality, and they are easier on the pocket book. If I were shopping Kubota for a chore tractor, I'd buy a Kioti. BTW Kioti has been selling and serving tractors in the US for over twenty years, so they aren't going anywhere. Now, all of Mahindra's compacts are make in Korea, the only thing they sell here made in India are the warmed over IH tractors they build, which are really a good machine for the money,but are about a brand new 50 year old design.
 
I'd stay with a Mahindra or maybe look at a Cub Cadet which is a Yanmar with a yellow paint job or for more $s look at Kubota or John Deere. The important thing to remember is a tractor should be a durable good, meaning it'll last a long time. Go with a brand that is established so you'll have parts and service available for a long time, if you're not going to keep it for a long time buying one one of the major brands insures you'll have some resale value. Look at some of the folks that bought cheaper tractors 30-40 years ago heck they bought a Leyland 'cause it was $2,000 cheaper than a Deere, Farmall or Massey Ferguson. The Deere, Farmall or MF is still worth $4-6,000 dollars or more and you can still get parts, the Leyland is worth 1/2 of that and there are no parts available. Some guy in the area has two tractor for sale a late 50's Ford and a Belarus from the 80's $2,800 your choice.
 
Skip the Kioti and step up to a Kubota. My dealer service is 2nd to none as I only go there to purchase oil and filters. I have abused mine a lot and I have never had the first problem in the 11 years since I bought it new.
 
Although good units, they have had lots of problems with loaders and front axles failing as they learn how important loaders are over here. Loaders aren't common in asian markets.
 
(quoted from post at 07:54:05 10/15/12) They aren't really a bad tractor, they are built by DaeDong machinery in Korea. IMHO they are on par with Kubota as far as quality, and they are easier on the pocket book. If I were shopping Kubota for a chore tractor, I'd buy a Kioti. BTW Kioti has been selling and serving tractors in the US for over twenty years, so they aren't going anywhere. Now, all of Mahindra's compacts are make in Korea, the only thing they sell here made in India are the warmed over IH tractors they build, which are really a good machine for the money,but are about a brand new 50 year old design.
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I wasn't saying the company itself is bad but if the dealer drops them or goes away then getting parts and service becomes a very long drive. I'm in west MN. Nothing within 100 miles. That covers the Fargo ND/Moorhead MN area, part on north east SD and about 1/3 of the state of MN. If I were in an area that had 3-4 dealers within 100 miles I'd be ok with them. But if there is only one......well I'd have to go with something I could get service for should that one dealer go away.

Rick
 
The shop that works on my stuff is a McCormick/ Kioti dealer. Over the years Ive seen what comes and goes in his shop. I have seen quite a few in with clogged fuel filters from dirty fuel and a 45 horse with a broken bell housing that had been used in a junk yard moving cars around, in my opinion abused. If I where to buy a new tractor it would either be a kioti or kubota. I understand they build tractors for Bobcat also.
 
The 30 and less HP are glorified lawn mowers. I knew lots of guys who bought them, and only ONE - BIL - still has his. Only because it is better than they used to have.....NOTHING.
 
Have a good friend that is a Kioti dealer.He has very few warrenty problems.Has had some problems with bearing failures in the front axles. No engine problems that I am aware of.I am very impressed with their machine work on gears etc. Parts availability seems very good also.I work on tractors for a living and I would buy one,if I were in the market for a compact.
 
I honestly don't know where the nearest Kioti dealer is around where I live,nor do I know the difference in price for comperable models, BUT, I do know that Kubota has a good dealership base around here, and I have personally used a compact model, (BX23) and was impressed with it. It belonged to my daughter and her ex. and that fool could tear up an anvil with a rubber hammer, but the little Kubota held up admirably. I would pay a little more for a Kubota.
 
I looked at them, but the dealer was a guy that fixes tractors, not a real dealership. Another place was selling the same tractors as Bobcat tractors, but the dissappeared after about a year. Only a vacant lot there now. I bought a Kubota, I'm very happy with it.
 
We are a Kioti dealer in NC & they are on par with any of the Major brands in the same HP class. Some of the older models do lack refinement and creature comforts. As long as you have a strong local dealer you will be very happy with it. The parent company has been in business since the late 40s & they have been in the States for over 20 years.

BTW If you put one beside a Mahindra you will notice that it is a much better built machine. Castings are clean and the sheet metal has a better fit & finish.
 
There's a lot to be said about being able to get the machine you want and need, configured exactly the way you want it, TODAY.

With "yesterday's tractors" you can spend months weeding through overpriced ads trying to find that right tractor. Then if you needed a loader, and it didn't come with one, you spend months more just trying to find a loader that fits, in good shape, at a fair price.

After all is said and done you still have an old used tractor. Dripping gas and seeping oil from every nook and cranny. Heavy and clunky.

I'm totally in to that. A lot of other people are too. Still it would be nice to have those as "hobby" tractors, and have a little Kubota 4x4 with a loader and backhoe to do the real work around the place.
 
Everybody says Kubota is tough....Well I dont think so. I have a friend that has one, seat is worn out, rusted to schitt too, Steering linkage is jacked up. I wouldnt buy one. Kioti, the closest dealer to me is over 60 miles away I think. There are other brands, Cub Cadet with Yanmar engine, NH, Deere.
Good Luck.
 

besides my five Ford I also have a Kubota. The first was an '86 that I bought new in '86 for $13,000. 12 years later they allowed me $10,000 on it towards a new bigger one. Have yet to need any repairs on either one, in a total of 2500 hours. Works for me.
 
I've had a 45 hp Kioti since 2006. So far it's been a very good tractor and have used it for about every thing farm related that you could think of including spraying, bush hogging, plowing,front-end loader work, etc..........
 
I think Kioti makes them for Bobcat. You probably can't buy Kioti tractors anymore. Just go to Bobcat and get a white one.

I am sure they are good tractors, but I am partial to John Deere.

Anyone who says that a 8N will do more work than a new compact tractor, apparently hasn't driven both a new compact tractor and a 8N. A 8N is $1500. A new compact is $15-$25,000. The compact tractor is probably worth it compared to an 8N.
 
What fords do you have? Any 4wd with cabs? I drool over
getting a 5610 II with 4wd c/h/a but more tractor than I need
right now! my 4610, and 1720 do what I need them to do!
Lol.
 
An 8N actually has more HP to the ground then a
Kioti CK30. I've compared them side-by-side, The
Ford is easier to run, easier to use, and will out
pull the Kioti. You don't need a lot of "fancy" to
work, just a lot of extra cash to run a newer
machine.
 
(quoted from post at 13:02:41 10/15/12)
besides my five Ford I also have a Kubota. The first was an '86 that I bought new in '86 for $13,000. 12 years later they allowed me $10,000 on it towards a new bigger one. Have yet to need any repairs on either one, in a total of 2500 hours. Works for me.
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I have a '57 960, it's a puller. A '59 971D. It's my rake tractor. A 1961 961, that's the one that is freshly restored that I have posted some pictures of. Then I have my '71 9000 which is a puller. Then my '96 8240 FWA CHA. That one pulls the mower, baler, spreader etc. It is for sale on Tractor House for $25,500. It has new transmission and hydraulic pump. You should give it a new home.
 
The smaller Mahindras at least are made in Japan by Mitsubishi. I have a new Max25 and a "49 8n. Other than the ground clearance being greater on the N,the Mahindra is much better all the way around. weighs 1694 which is heavy for a compact.
Admittedly my N is old and worn,but with 4wa and diffrential lock the Mahindra gets much more power to the ground.
 
(quoted from post at 04:02:55 10/16/12) The smaller Mahindras at least are made in Japan by Mitsubishi. I have a new Max25 and a "49 8n. Other than the ground clearance being greater on the N,the Mahindra is much better all the way around. weighs 1694 which is heavy for a compact.
Admittedly my N is old and worn,but with 4wa and diffrential lock the Mahindra gets much more power to the ground.
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It may have more traction but may not actually get more power to the ground. Lot of the compacts have hydro trannies that eat HP just to move the tractor where the old tractos actually only used a couple of ponies to drive the tractor in 1st, pulling nothing on flat ground. Good example was the old garden tractors. Same models setting side by side, one gear the other hydro. The gear tractors used right at 1 HP to drive while the hydros used 3. I think your tractor is gear so you may get that power to the ground but if it has shuttle on it you dump HP there.

I have a couple of N's and work them hard. I'd love to be able to replace one with a Compact.

Rick
 
The local Bobcat dealer sold them before it got some Bobcat
tractors to sell. Don't know who made the Bobcat tractor. No news
on reliability or anything else on tractor.

Mark
 
I bought a Branson in '07. Didn't have a Kioti dealer around when I was looking. My tractor is well worth the money and it wasn't cheap. It's loaded with whistles and bells and a Cummins direct injected engine.

Mark
 
Because I like the new technology......even though several years ago I had 7 of what you speak up thru JD 100 PTO HP. Just like in trucks. No way will I LUST for a 20 year old truck. I've been through that with 4 kids and about 5 vehicles each and I have had my belly full of it. If that is your partee then enjoy. It's surely not mine.
 
texasmark1, my reply was to the original poster. i appreciate and enjoy this forum but it sure does confuse some folks with both the classic and modern view.
 
and when koolaid responded to my reply to the OP, it shows him responding to someone named "soundguy". there is no "soundguy" that reponded anywhere in this thread. i wonder how this happens?
 
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