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Bryan,
You commented the other day on the 6.0s being money pits, typically around $4-5k. Can you give me a little more detail? Or were you referring to the Ford 6.0 diesel?
Tossing around the idea of the chevy 6.0 vs the duramax. 5k goes a long way towards the price of the dmax. Plus resale is better. Was looking for a 8.1, like finding hens teeth.
Thanks.
Rick

I am pretty sure he was talking about the Ford 6.0 diesel. They have all kind of issues in pickups. You can thank the EPA for a lot of that. The same engine is school buses and delivery truck did not have near the problems. There they ran at a cooler exhaust temperature. They had to have it higher in the pickups to get them to met the new EPA standards. Those same standards are what caused the end of the 7.3 Diesel.

As for the Chevy engines. The 6.0 gas engine is a fine motor that pulls well. The only issue is that they are a fuel hog. My one son has one. It runs great but it is 12-13 miles per gallon ride. I mean even empty. Load down it can get down to 7-8 miles to the gallon. If gas goes down then you may be alright owning one.

The Chevy Duromax is a fine motor but the fuel economy is not as good as many think. Empty you will get 15-16 and loaded 10-12. I do mean goose neck and a heavy load but they are not near as fuel efficient as the older motors. They are a nice truck to drive. My brother has had several of them. The only issue is that they are not cheap to work on either. A set of injectors can be several grand to have done. The exhaust is sky high and some of the front wheel bearing assemblies can be $750 or more. So they are not a cheap truck to maintain.

So far I have been able to find first generation Cummins in Dodges in good shape. The ride is not as nice but they will take a beating. The 7.3 Fords seem to be just about as good but finding a good older one is getting tough. Everyone is finding out the issues with the newer diesels and the value of the older simpler ones is going up.

I was referring to the 6.0 / 6.4 ford diesel . The 6.0 Gm gas is very durable ,but not easy on gas, though lot of power . JD is right on the money about emissions on the ford diesel. Also they detuned the heck out of them in the bigger trucks to promote longer life span. They had so many issues in pick up they had to reflash PCM to detune them . Amazing they can add or subtract 100-200 hp with reprograming the computer alone.

Another thing you don't hear about on the 6.0 Ford Diesels is that Ford/Navstar outsourced the design on them, to meet the emissions requirements they farmed a lot of the design out to a European Firm that has a lot of experience with emission compliant diesels. I suspect this might be part of the reason Ford went independent on the new engine. I have also heard that Ford owns most of the stock in Cummins but the agreement with Cummins & Dodge precludes Ford from using Cummins engines in pick-up trucks so I got to wonder if the new Ford diesel has some Cummins DNA in it.

Thanks all.
That was the info I was looking for. I plan on getting rid of my 1/2 ton, then get a gas one ton and a grocery getter to drive the rest of the time. I need something a little bigger than the half ton.

Rick

Run as fast as you can from a 6.o ford f250,wife had one, great truck to 130000 miles took a couple trips with the RV of 2000 mile and hauled a load of cows to our son in East texas then the trouble started spent 9000 to trade for 5000. Truck pulled well and had decent fuel economy. We are ford people so wife replaced with a 6.4 plenty of power fair fuel usage.
I don't plan on replacing my 99 f 350 anytime soon