Old, A Question about Your Axle....

Absent Minded Farmer · Sep 11, 2012

Did you post the make & number of your axle? I might have missed it. There's still a couple of '60s Ford truck parts catalogs floating around here. Might be able to find the parts you need or at least the numbers.

Mike

old · Sep 11, 2012

Haven't even seen any numbers on the axle it self but never really looked all that hard either. I know being a fleet truck they used some odd stuff at times and so far that is what I find. Shoot if I could just come up with a master cylinder for it that would get me where I need to go at least on this 1 ton. The other ford I am working on the parts are easy to find and king pins and doing the machine shop work will be around $100. The old 1 ton is where I always have problem getting parts. Shoot if I could get a master cylinder for it I could just cap off the line going to the bad brake cylinder and use it like that since it is only a farm truck any how

Anonymous-0 · Sep 11, 2012

Shoot Old, Just use any master cly, btdt. just build a adaper plate the will center the donor master cly to where the old one mounts, Bolt it on there, then mearsure the rod from the pedal to the master cly and make sure it has 1/8th " clearance. I used a power brake boster and master cly from a 76 Ford LTD to put on a 64 1 ton, I could stop on a dime and get 15 cents change back.

old · Sep 11, 2012

Oops forgot to say it has power brakes also so that makes it a tad harder. Had thought about doing a newer master cylinder with the double resivor (sp) but was told I would then need another part or would end up with other problems. Just a thing I have that I wish I could fix but not on the high priority list

Anonymous-0 · Sep 11, 2012

Old: Regarding your brake cylinders, Hagens Auto Parts in Puyallup Wa. (253- 845-7020 ask for Brandon) will bore your existing ones and press in stainless sleeves so you won't have any more problems. They did a few for me when I was in the repair business. I own a 1963 Volvo classic and they are done that way. The master cyl and wheel cyls were done over 15 years ago and still work perfectly with no leaks. Might give them a call as they also deal heavily in older machines. Joe

Ken Macfarlane · Sep 12, 2012

They really aren't too bad, just find one with a similar bore and similar bolt pattern on the ears. You will have to cut the push rod likely or make a new longer one out of some rod stock.

If just a farm truck and old enough for non-split brakes tee the outputs together or convert it to split so you could have front brakes at least!

old · Sep 12, 2012

Yep just a farm truck I use to haul hay with and or gravel out of the creek for the driveway. Has not been off the farm in 10 plus years now. As I said have thought about doing the split cylinder master but was told I needed a proportioning valve in the system or it would not work. And yes fronts would be better then what I have and even thought about plugging the line going to the back and see if the master would work that way

Ken Macfarlane · Sep 12, 2012

As a farm truck, brakes without proportioner won't really matter, a front to rear proportioning is setup for use on pavement at speed, and may or may not have a load sensing arm. In short, at low speed on dirt or grass its not proportioned correctly anyways.

Without one, equal pressure is sent front and rear and the proportioning handled by brake design (piston areas, amount of self energizing on the drums, swept area, diameter etc)

old · Sep 12, 2012

Well again this is one of those low priory things. So far every time I start working on it again something else comes up so it gets left for latter and then it seems I never get around to it again Really should at least get it so I can use it when I want but always seems to be other things ahead of it that need TLC

Absent Minded Farmer · Sep 13, 2012

Well old, things were looking good. I found a whole book on brake components & started searching. It was when I got to a section on air brakes I realized the book was for the heavy truck line. So are the rest of the truck books. >:v(

Ford is a name that catches my ears, so if I hear something about a master, I'll let you know first thing. Someone mentioned Hemmings Motor News, before & I couldn't agree more. If there's going to be someone who has a pile of parts for your trucks, they'll be in that magazine. NAPA would be another choice. They should have an affordable replacement wheel cylinder, too.

Glad to hear you have the king pin situation worked out. I've heard, since my first car, that replacing those bushings should be avoided like a bad spring on an overhead door, unless you have a press & reaming set. Never sounded like much fun to me.

Take care,
Mike

old · Sep 13, 2012

No NAPA's around this area closes is a good 30 miles one way from me. Over the years I have looked and tried to match the master with parts and O'Reilly's has never been able to find a thing due to it being a fleet truck and not standard parts. Oh well not a real big deal right now.
Have the king pins heading to a machine shop right now and hope the installing them in the axle does not become a big deal

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