Little Wonder plow question

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

Thanks if you can help out.

We where told both these plows are IHC Little Wonders...
Which style is older? The flat beam or the cast I-beam style?

We are trying to narrow it down to a specific plow that we hope to get someday... because we are thinking we may purchase a plow book for one of these types of Little Wonders.

Oldiron29 · Sep 10, 2012

Dear Sweet, I think plow B is much older than A
It seems to be built no as heavy. Very old PO?
I am no expert, Just taking a shot. oldiron29

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

oldiron29,

We are clueless, hoping some others will weigh in too.

I do know there was an old PO chaindriven plow on the auction... did not watch that one sell.

Thanks for your reply.

Uncle Ernie · Sep 10, 2012

The Little Wonder has flat beams.Little Genius has I beams.

Don-Wi · Sep 10, 2012

Where are you at? we've got a little wonder here that we don't use, and it's got quite a bit of life left in the wear parts. I had it slightly shined up once upon a time, and I painted the bottoms after but they're starting to rust again.

I'm thinking it's be better off if we got rid of it to someone who would use it at some plow days and such. Not sure what a fair price is. What did those ones go for?

If I'm feeling nostalgic, I'll get the 1600 hooked onto the 3 bottom 565 we've got. That's as small as I want to go. But then again, I'm ussually against the clock so I don't have time for playing with the small stuff when it comes to plowing.

Normally it's our 1855 hooked to the 4 bottom 546.

Donovan from Wisconsin

Walt Davies · Sep 10, 2012

I got one of those out on my lawn. Payed $25 for it.
Walt

Harold H · Sep 10, 2012

Little Genius is I beams. Little Wonder is flat beams.

Harold H

Harold H · Sep 10, 2012

Both the Little Wonder and the Little Genius were built during the same time but the Little Genius continued for a number of years after the Little Wonder went out of production.

Harold H

Leroy · Sep 10, 2012

Whoever told you they were both little wonders was wrong, the top one is a little genious, not a little wonder. And Genious is what you want for your Regular - F 20, the wonder is for the F 12 & F 14

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

Leroy,
Thank you so much for the info... then we will buy a book on Little Genius - and that is what we will look for (after the old Regular is running).

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

Harold H,
Thank you very much for your help. When we are ready - it will be a Genius that we look for then.

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

Walt,
Which do you have...Wonder or Genius? Wow, you really got a deal, no matter which you have!

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

Don WI,

Thank you for the offer. But my husband has decided that we will wait until after the Regular is running, before we seek out a rusty plow. (He does have a good restored Genius-for behind our restored F20). So he'd really rather put the $ toward Regular parts...there are still a good number of things needed for her before she will run.

But I will copy/save this thread... and who knows, maybe next year I will give a shout out to you to see if you still have it and still want to sell it. Thanks again!

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

Uncle Ernie,
Thank you very much for the information. We always appreciate the help from everyone on this site.

plowman · Sep 10, 2012

Plow A is a Little Wonder #4 Bulit from 1940 to 1956. Plow B is a Little Wonder # 3 The were built before the #4. I have manuals for both plows. Give me a call Steve 419-618-0017 Thanks

Don-Wi · Sep 10, 2012

Apparantly ours is a genious if that's the difference. It's got a tail wheel on it that is partially rusted away because it was in the dirt in the shed for 30+ years before I pulled it out. The hitch is a little different too, but the rest looks pretty much the same.

I understand having to wait to get the main project done first. Somethings just have to wait.

Donovan from Wisconsin

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

Plowman,

Thanks, I will tell my husband about the manuals... and get back to you if he is interested. (I have no idea on cost of a manual at this point...ALSO are you set up to receive payments via PayPal?)

Are you a plow collector?

We have had people tell us all ways... that A is a L. Wonder - but also that it is a L. Genius. Also have had some at auctions who told us BOTH are Wonders, same as you are stating.
So we are just trying to figure it out and are confused. But PLOW A is the style that we best like the look of.

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

Don-WI,

Ok, so your's is for sure a Genius? That type with the cast/poured I beam and two steel wheels with the tiny steel wheel at the back, is the kind he wants.

My husband just asked me to verify the type... and I'm not sure if he may be interested or what. I know he's tired after 10 hours welding in a hot factory all day. So if he is interested, I will make a new post to your attention. (He may ultimately decide to wait until next year - so I apologize for being a pain in the neck).

Also, it the back wheel considered a "rolling landslide" rather than a tail wheel? I know he has a book on our current Genius which is on rubber - so he is going to look in that book to see if he can make heads or tails of anything.

Thanks for your time and your help.

plowman · Sep 10, 2012

Yes I am a plow collector, also buy, sell and trade plows and parts. I have 15 IHC plows, 1 ,2 3, and 4 bottoms. Also have about 20 other plows and parts. Little Genius or # 8 plows have rear tail wheel that turn. They where built 1927 to 1961. Thanks Plowman

Don-Wi · Sep 10, 2012

If the cast beams makes it a genious, then that's what it is. I guess it is a rolling land slide on the back (whats left of it) and it does need a little work to the hitch I think.

I may be out on the farm tomorrow, I can snap a picture with my phone when I'm out there if I remember.

Donovan from Wisconsin

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

That would be great!

SweetFeet · Sep 10, 2012

Plowman,
Thanks for the info! Like I said, I will tell him about the plow manuals.

Fullers Farmalls · Sep 10, 2012

Hi SweetFeet, Love you pictures. I have 2 Little Genius #8s. A 2 and 3 bottom. They don't look like that. Mine had a different hitch style and a tail wheel.Mine also have the cast I beam.They I believe are the later models. If I remember reading before the Wonder was prior to the Genius. Mine could have been altered but I have seen few and they all have this hitch type.

John B. · Sep 11, 2012

I have to disagree with you Leroy. The top plow has the triangle hitch with no side adjustment where it's attached to the beams which makes it a little wonder. But the top plow looks like it has wide front wheels which the little wonders did not have.

SweetFeet · Sep 11, 2012

FullersFarmalls,
Thanks I really enjoy taking pictures.

Thank you for posting your Genius photos. Will show my husband.

Spook · Sep 11, 2012

I wonder if the beams are really forged, not cast? Or a type of cast stell, rather than iron?

IHCPloughman · Sep 11, 2012

Good gracious, folks. Plowman is the only one who was half right.

The top picture, the one with the forged I-beams, is a #4 Little Wonder, built 1940-1956.

The bottom picture, the one with the flat-stock beams, is a #2 Little Wonder, built 1925-1942.

Pete76NY · Sep 11, 2012

Plowman...ya got parts? Need a couple Plow Chief single piece mouldboards!

SweetFeet · Sep 13, 2012

IHCPloughman,
Thank you for verifying plow A as a #4 Little Wonder. That is the type we would like to get eventually.

SweetFeet · Sep 13, 2012

Spook,
I am sure you are correct. I often do not know the correct terminology.

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