Unstick tire from rim

SteveinMo · Sep 10, 2012

Have a three rib front tire that has been on the rim a LONG time. I need to break it down without dammageing the tire as I need to reuse it. Any suggestions on soaking the tire/rim with something to help get it started. Brake fluid, WD-40, PB Blaster, Coke? I should say this is just a small tire on the front of my TO-20 Ferguson.

Tom in TN · Sep 10, 2012

Steve,

I use liquid hand soap on beads that I'm breaking down and when I'm putting the tire back onto a rim.

I hammer the bead with a tire iron (spoon) and a 3 pound hammer, and wherever I get the bead to come down the slightest bit, I insure that there's soap on it. It's slippery and slimy, but I always eventually get the bead down.

Good luck. Be patient and just keep beating.

Tom in TN

showcrop · Sep 10, 2012

I sometimes use the loader bucket edge to start it. The rust is a great anti-slip surface. I have also backed over the tire right next to the rim with my truck. That works well too.

showcrop · Sep 10, 2012

I sometimes use the loader bucket edge to start it. The rust is a great anti-slip surface. I have also backed over the tire right next to the rim with my truck. That works well too.

Bill in IL · Sep 10, 2012

Ken Tool T26B They are about 200 bucks but will take any tire off. You need to stand on the tire and hit at a 60 degree angle down and into the bead.

John B. · Sep 10, 2012

When the tire repair guys use to make road calls on the old split ring type wheels they would pour a can of Coca Cola in the bead and let it set for 5 minutes. It works...

tomturkey · Sep 10, 2012

Whatever you end up using, wear gloves. your hands will end up black from all the slime you've created btdt gobble

JMS/.MN · Sep 10, 2012

No need to beat on them if you have a loader or skidloader- just put the wheel on the ground, tilt the bucket 90 degrees and power down. Can do the same with a hyd jack with the wheel under a tractor drawbar or other heavy object.

Walt Davies · Sep 10, 2012

You can take it to just about any tire shop and they will break the bead for free. Why take a chance on hurting yourself.
Walt

Dean · Sep 10, 2012

Borrow a slide hammer. Buy one if you change tires regularly.

After learning the proper technique, you will have any automotive, light truck or farm tractor tire broken down in mere minutes.

Dean

Dean · Sep 10, 2012

I bought mine from Northern tool for closeout price of $50.00 about 3 years ago. Regular price waw about $150.00.

It will , indeed, break down just about any tire bead that you will likely encounter on the farm.

Dean

cd1 · Sep 10, 2012

I say if you don't know how to do it then you should be either finding a friend to show you that does or let a professional. Tires are not rocket science but they can kill you.

old · Sep 10, 2012

NO OIL PRODUCTS at all. Use simple dish washing soap and water. Pour it on and be sure you cover it well. If you where closer to me I would just say hey bring it by I know I can brake it down for you but I have a truck tire bead beaker that will pop one off a rim easy

RodinNS · Sep 10, 2012

Dish soap and water.... Myres Skid, Murphy's tire soap mixed with some water...

Rod

Anonymous-0 · Sep 10, 2012

Handyman jack under a tractor drawbar. You can do both sides in less then a minute.

M. Doud · Sep 10, 2012

yup its hard to beat a small hydraulic jack and a heavy object like bumper or tractor. Just set the tire on the ground, put the jack on top of tire, and try to jack up the truck or tractor. Guarantee that tire pops off rim before vehicle comes off the ground.

RodinNS · Sep 10, 2012

If you guys can break a tire in under a minute with a half ton and a bumper jack then you'd probably as well jumped on the bead... A tire maul would knock that tire loose in 2 seconds and one blow.
I've never understood the desire to use these rigged contraptions when a tool exists to easily do the job.
Hydraulic bead breakers for large heavy ply tires... that I understand... but the ole duckbill hammer will do the rest.

Rod

M. Doud · Sep 11, 2012

cause thats bs. I have smacked a rusted on tire with a 10 pound sledge and didn't do anything but get a good bounce. The jack and bumper are far more reliable and a heck of a lot less work than swinging that stupid sledge. Its also a lot less likely to dent the heck out of the rim if you screw up.

Not sure how getting the jack is more work than getting the sledge. It sure isn't more work to pump the jack than swing the sledge.

You keep swinging the hammer if that's what you like..... But as far as the jack being more of a hassle, the best I'll give you on that is a wash.

Indiana Ken · Sep 11, 2012

I just removed a 11.2 x 28 rear tire from a parts 8N I have. I have a Ken tool slide hammer that has never failed me until this tire. Worked on it on and off for more than a week, finally got one side but the other bead would not give up.

Today I took the hot wrench and warmed the rim about half way around...just until I could smell hot rubber. The bead came off within a couple hammer strikes. The tire bead appears to be okay and I plan to remount the tire on a good rim with a replacement tube. The rim was rusted though from salt and not usable.

Royse · Sep 11, 2012

I wouldn't use any petroleum, not if you want to keep the tire. Dishsoap.
Little Buddy Bead Breaker works well for me, and cheaper than a quality hammer around here.
I just took a tire off the rim with it that I couldn't get off with my FEL and trailer hitch/bumper jack combination on it at the same time.
They probably loosened it up first though.

JMOR · Sep 11, 2012

Yeah, most of these fellows that have their "sure fire, always works, easy way" to break a bead have only done the easy ones! A lot of B.S. here! Sorry if you are offended, but you haven't seen a hard to remove/break one ....yet!

mark in booville ny · Sep 11, 2012

skid steer or backhoe bucket deffinitally the best way for getting stubborn tires off rims and even then sometimes you have to bounce around with the edge on the tire to give it a little more preasure

oldtanker · Sep 12, 2012

(quoted from post at 21:11:53 09/11/12) skid steer or backhoe bucket deffinitally the best way for getting stubborn tires off rims and even then sometimes you have to bounce around with the edge on the tire to give it a little more preasure

I 2nd that. Backhoe is the best tire breaker I've ever used!

Rick

showcrop · Sep 12, 2012

(quoted from post at 23:06:11 09/11/12)

(quoted from post at 21:11:53 09/11/12) skid steer or backhoe bucket deffinitally the best way for getting stubborn tires off rims and even then sometimes you have to bounce around with the edge on the tire to give it a little more preasure

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I 2nd that. Backhoe is the best tire breaker I've ever used!

Rick

Loader, skid steer, backhoe, excavator, bulldozer, yes they all do it quick and easy but the pick-up is often more likely to be handy to jump in and back over it.

RodinNS · Sep 12, 2012

Number one... I don't EVER use a sledge. I use a duck bill tire maul, made for the job. I bought it after I wasted enough of my time with jacks and front end loaders. Breaking beads requires precise aim and the good sense to move around the wheel on tires that are badly stuck. Most will fall in two or three swings. Bad ones might take a couple minutes. That still wouldn't get the tires positioned under a vehicle to place the jack on it.

Rod

massey333 · Sep 12, 2012

You mean like the ones you have to take off with Sawzall and grinder because most of the bead rubber stays with the rim.Then loosing the rim half the time because you can't get all the bead ground off the rim because the tire was rusted to the rim.

JMOR · Sep 12, 2012

Those are the ones! They don't give up to mauls, slide hammers, FEL, hoes, PUs, jacks or any homebrew rig man comes up with.

showcrop · Sep 12, 2012

(quoted from post at 13:43:32 09/12/12) You mean like the ones you have to take off with Sawzall and grinder because most of the bead rubber stays with the rim.Then loosing the rim half the time because you can't get all the bead ground off the rim because the tire was rusted to the rim.

I had a pair like that once. They were, I believe the original duals that had come with a tractor new in 1969. They were well rotted and I needed the rims. After struggling with them for awhile I called a friend. He told me that where he works they cut them off the bead with a sawzall then use a cold chisel to cut the bead. It worked slick, with no damage to the rim.

Anonymous-0 · Sep 12, 2012

Take it to a tire shop, it will only take them a couple of minutes to do, it will save you alot of sweat. Some of them old tires are glued on like cement.

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