It's always something

I was baling up some hay yesterday( I cut it for Monday, but it was dry enough and rain was forecasted for Monday) and was just starting into my forth load. I was moving about 7.5mph to keep leaf loss to a minimum.Got down the field once and started to take the corner when this happened.





I ended up ripping 2 remotes off the tractor. Ripped my wiring and of course the tongue. Getting some proper breakaway remotes hooked up and hopefully going to get the tongue welded up tomorrow.

Yep....Thats what can happen when something is used to much when its new.... :wink:

Near Dayton Oh . ? Lanse can fix you up !

A few years back I was baling the orchard above the house. I
heard a thump behind me and then saw the big flywheel go
past me down the hill.
Good thing I had a parts baler. It ain't easy to change that darn
gear box.
Walt

The tongues on a square baler take a beating. Every stoke of the plunger rocks the baler on the tongue. I check mine real carefully every time I bale with it. I have seen too many do what yours did.

Always use break away couplers. It only takes one time to make a real mess if you don't.

I used to use a regular 3/4 pin on my baler but I noticed that any time that it wasn't taking in hay that it was banging the pole back and forth a lot. I switched to a larger pin and it tightened things up a lot so that there is a lot less banging and clanging when not in the windrow.

Not to throw water on your parade, just go the dealer and price a new tongue from CNH. But make sure you sit down before they tell you, because their parts went outta sight since the merger. You should get a good laugh; you can probably get another baler for what they will tell you.

Ya don't think going 7 1/2 mpg across a field had anything to do with the wreck? Maybe you guys have fields that are smoother than mine, but 3-4 mph is more like what I do.

I had that happen with the corn picker 2 years ago. Going up hill no less. When it reached the end of the rope to the quick hitch,the half loaded wagon took off down hill doubling speed about every half second. Quite the train wreck by the time it was all over.

Check the tongue for the wagon too, farmer/friend has a NH 315 and just on the other side of the hedgerow from us, he was at the top of a slope and the rear drawbar/ pipe-tongue snapped off with a full wagon on, nothing turned over, wagon wedged itself in the trees though, never gave much thought to these hitches doing that, but it happens.

Had same thing happen on 315 baler.

I don't really think it had a whole lot to do with it. I can do 30km/h across this field on a short (80") wheelbase tractor. We normally take a bit of extra time when tilling to get the hay fields nice and smooth.

This is a 315 as well.

Never had a NH baler but we had several NH choppers. Broke the hitch off every one. Of course we were usually dragging it through the mud at the time.

I actually had the same thing happen on the rear hitch. Half way down a decent sized hill. I got it stopped with the thrower. Bent it up a bit but I'd rather that than let the wagon roll down the hill because the tongue could catch the ground with some speed and then you have a real mess. Guy had it happen with a gravity box. Tongue went in the ground after the wagon gained some speed. Brand new Horst gear with a tangled front end.

nh has the most brittle casting the cast breaks like glass ,, beats anythin i ever saw ,, and the welds are not much better, but thet do make dependable eqpt

farmer boy,
Your hay field looks much better than many where I live. Must have gotten a lot of rain.

It always seems that things break when you are making hay and trying to beat the rain.

How do you post your pics? When I do it, the pic comes up first then the text. You have text, pic then more text?

Thanks for the pics,
George

Of all the break downs, this kind is just low down below the belt (no pun intended-bale thrower LOL) I am sure with a careful inspection like JD Seller mentioned, this most likely could be prevented. I remember what happened on his as he was baling an order of hay for me in small squares, and at his age, working alone, his wife always checks on him, brings lunch or what have you, still not a good thing, luckily like you said the wagon went in a good direction, and it could have been worse. We have rolling hills and some fields have steep slopes, conditions in which I have baled myself when younger, extra help hanging on one side of a wagon to balance it, best to keep the hay ground on the flat or similar terrain when doing small squares.

When his broke on the back, he had just got this one owner shed kept, pretty nice/clean 315 NH, so he probably never gave it a thought. I've used it, very reliable, considering I grew up on a 532 Ford. I was not however impressed with the hitch on the 315, well should I say material thickness, that rear pipe drawbar on his looked way out of character for the rest of the baler, was rusty, it literally just snapped, you would think any kind of drawbar would warrant a little heavier or thicker wall pipe or similar, maybe you can fabricate a new tongue out of better material, I also agree with using the right size pins, goes for all hitches, gaps around any kind pin creates problems, more so with the momentum of a baler constantly imposing shock loads when the drawbar pin has free play.

Guys, it's called metal fatigue and the main reason I don't like flying. As a farmer, we see way too much of it.

I don't really post that many pictures. It's on eof the few things I use modern view for. That and to edit a post. I first type in what I want to be at the top, add my pictures and then finish my typing. Then I seperate all images and text by a space. I think images end up side by side when they share a line when making a post.



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I hate to say this but I will.You will not have that problem with a 336 Deere baler.The other replies that had done that were all NH balers.A friend of mine lived in PA and NH used his farm as a test farm for new equipment,he said the equipment they used on his farm was very well built but when he went to the dealer a year or so latter they had always cheapened it up,lighter frames,hitches and thinner sheat metal.Look at NH 489-492 haybines almost 90% have had the hitches welded.NH design is great but they are to cheap on the manufacturing.We have some NH equipment here on the farm, so it is just not my Green Blinders replying.