Tractor for daughter- mission abandoned

Mike (WA)

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Daughter and husband bought a little horse farm not far from Seattle- Got a great deal (previous owner owed $445,000, got foreclosed- they bought from the bank for $260,000).

Lots of stuff to mow, blackberries, etc. I had an IH 504 diesel with loader that had been sidelined for several years, due to running a stob through the radiator and bending up a bunch of stuff, and decided I'd get it back up and running, and make her a "permanent loan" of it.

Radiator repair took a year, but came back in good shape. Removed sheetmetal, straightened it. Straightened the support structure that had also been bent. Most of the cage nuts that held it together ended up shearing in the disassembly, so bought a bunch from McMaster Carr, and replaced them. Quite a bit of grinding to make them fit in some of the heavier superstructure.

Front tires were old bald truck tires, both flat- so bought new tri-ribs.

Very difficult to get lower radiator hose back on, due to loader frame in the way. Started putting the sheetmetal back on, of course nothing fit exactly right because of previous crumpling, so lots of massaging. Everything was behind the massive loader frame, so lots of fun getting the bolts in. Bent the grill surround back into shape, hammered out the grill as best I could and re-attached it with baling wire.

Was leaking fluid from rear axle, so jacked it up, took off rear (loaded) tire (that sucker was HEAVY!), replaced the seal. One of the loader hyd. hoses was leaking at the swivel, and the return hose looked really ugly, so got 2 hoses. Replaced the leaking one, but rounded the lands on the other trying to get it off, so just left it. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." It was leaking oil from underneath, figured out it was engine oil coming through a bad rear seal. "Just keep the oil level up, it'll be fine."

The big moment- hit the glow plugs, cranked it over, glow plugs again, crank again, and it started! Old gal ran OK, everything seemed to be alright.

Took it for test run, and worked the loader controls- when I tilted the bucket, another hyd hose blew. Got another one made up, put it on. Hadn't had the radiator cap on during all this, because a tab was bent. Cap looked pretty sad in general, so bought a new one, which didn't fit. So massaged the old one back into shape. Put it on, and after the thing warmed up and pressured up, it was leaking out the bottom hose.

At this point, I took a long hard look at the project. To fix bottom hose, it was a complete tear down. But more to the point, with all the adventures I'd had on this thing, how were daughter and husband going to cope with the continuing problems with a 50 year old tractor? He's fairly handy, but no tractor experience, and no shop.

So ended up taking her our 2005 JD 4010 (18 HP compact utility with loader and bush hog) for a few weeks loan, and the old IH is going the the consignment sale next month.

Its one thing to do the old tractor thing yourself, but quite another to inflict it on those who never asked for the problems it entails.
 
Forgot to mention- brakes were completely useless, too. They have some hills, so that was, as they say, "problematic".
 

I'll give you a "E" for effort, and a A+ for trying to help you're daugher out. but i'm going to dock you several points for abanding the project,
 
You stole my thunder. I got that Super 55 Oliver for the wife for our anniversary. Thought it just needed o-rings on the sleeves,maybe rings and rod bearings. It's got one broken piston,one looks like it sucked a bolt in the intake. Sleeves were pitted,block is pitted. Two peices of sheet metal that are missing aren't being reproduced for the late ones,only the early ones and they're different.
The PTO clutch wouldn't go over center and lock,so I took the cover off the bottom to adjust it and there layed a spring and one of the arms off the pressure plate for the main tractor clutch,so I had to split it. I could turn the steering wheel half way around in either direction before anything moved,figured something just needed to be tightened. Two bearings are bad on the shaft.
I did manage to find a center grille strip for it in Texas for a mere $140.
I'm going to quit taking bolts out of this thing because everything I take apart,I find more BIG problems.
 
Well, you tried. I think you are a wise man for having the foresight to see that this IH needs more love then your daughter and her husband can provide.

Hopefully it winds up with a hard core IH fan who restores it.

Pete
 
I'm like Northvale in my house too. Last Sunday I got to meet the guy who did most of the previous work too.....

He meant well and was pretty proud of what he had done, but I'm here to tell you he sucked it up big time in the bathroom. I'm afraid to open any more walls. I can see where he never pulled the trim off around the windows when sheet rocking over the plaster, he just cut out big notches to go over it. Then there's a gap underneath it because he should've pulled the trim off instead......

Not to mention his love of wall paper over some of the sheet rock without even primer on the rock, just bare sheet rock and plaster. It doesn't come off. AT ALL.... I ended up gutting the rest of the bathroom because of that. Was cheaper than the steamer which wasn't working anyway.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
Mike, Don't take this the wrong way but they are much better off with getting themselves something newer. If they can afford that house then they must have good jobs. It also sounds like he is NOT a tractor nut. So they will be better off doing what they do best and earning the money there to buy a better tractor to use. That will save them the frustration of maintaining a old tractor. Their time is better spend on other things.

Most of us on here love to tinker on the old things but many do not. I also am not going to try and plant/harvest my cash crops with an old worn out tractor. I use better ones for that. Then play with the old worn out ones. LOL
 
I hear ya'.

They were actually a little pressed for $$, what with the house payments- he works for TSA, which is a pretty good job, but she was a "customer service" agent for Alaska Airlines, which was pretty weak, dollar-wise. But she got her teaching certificate last year, so had been searching for teaching jobs- and finally landed one! Teaching Spanish in a pretty high-brow high school, so they should be in pretty good shape now.

She loves the little JD, so I expect they will be looking for their own, soon.
 

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