(800) 853-2651
SHOP NOW

O.T. Getting scared

R

Row Crop

Member
I guess I'm getting scared in my old age. While I was over by my county seat the other day, I picked up a purchase permit for a hand gun. Went to town and bought a Ruger 9mm, and signed up for a concealed carry class. I don't know if I'll ever carry it, but I feel better having it by my bed at night. First time I ever bought a gun I'm not going to hunt with.
How many of you have a CCP?
 
guns? what guns? i have no stinking guns :shock: Tennessee has a "carry permit" does not specify open or concealed carry
 
Lifetime permit, plus 21 years as a police officer. The concealed weapon permit is well worth having. Even if you do not carry for protection, there will never be a question IF you are going to blast targets all day. My recommendation is that you tell the officer its in the car and you have a permit IF you get stopped or are involved in an accident. Do this PRIOR to him finding it!
 
I have a CC permit,but there are so many places
you can't carry,or you get to the front door of a bussiness and find a no guns sign i just leave mine in the truck.
 
I have a CCP rarely carry a gun on my person but often have one in the truck where it can't be seen,with home invasions on the rise everyone needs at least a gun by their bed loaded and ready to go also a small dog in the house to sound the 'alarm' is good.
 
I hear that. There are times I have felt that the "thugs" hanging around do "nothing" might just be armed. They sure do not have a CCP. All I can do is bluff, stick my hand in jacket under left arm pit and act like I just undid the clasp on a shoulder holster. Look them in the eye with that "Do you feel Lucky, Punk?" look and strut on by.

Would like to get some home defense gun but do not feel comfortable with 3 teenage boys in the house. Sometimes they are so dam impulsive and irrational.
Probably will once they are all grown and out of the house. But that will be years!

Pete
 
I have a TN permit. Can't have it at work even in the car.There needs to be some more rules and rule changes.I believe if you have a permit you should be able to carry it anywhere except the ovious places banks,schools,courts etc.I also think every state should be made to reconize any other state issued permit.As far as by the bed Taurus Judge 6 1/2# barrel 5 shot revolver loaded with stagered heavy load #4 and 000 buckshot.I had it on my side once and one of those people that don't like guns asked was that the biggest pistol I could find. I replied no mam It's the littlest shotgun I could find!
 
I have a CCP and also keep my .45 loaded with hollow points by my bed, also have dad's .357 loaded with first round hollow point rest mix of maginum and .38 special by the bed. I carry the .45 concealed on occasion and always have my permit on me. I also like to clean the weapons on my front porch so the passers-by don't get any idea that I am a soft target that can be robbed.

Leonard
 
Been trying to get my wife to go get one. I havent succeeded yet but, she did buy a pistol shes comfortable with and practices with it. I think its a very good idea to at least have the permit, even if you dont carry on your person. You never know when your gonna need it.
 
I went the other way. Decided that the more likely scenario would be that I would wake up with my own gun from the nightstand pointed at my head, so I sold my gun.

Guy at work took the carry class and bought 2 pistols. I asked if he kept them on his nightstand; he said: "No, I keep them in the safety deposit box at the bank where my wife works." Guess he figured a burglar would wait around while he retrieved a gun from the bank.
 
i dont have a permit but i always keep at least one handgun with me, in this state were allowed to carry as long as the gun is in plain sight, or in a vehicle, been stopped a few times, the cop didnt see the gun and i didnt tell him, after letting a pair of cops do a "voluntary" search about 8 years ago, in which the idiots basically destroyed the interior of the truck as well as let their dog, who had 10 lbs of fresh mud on his feet roam thru the inside too, they didnt find anything, i dont let anybody search anything without having a search order, which they wont have as they have no reasonable suspicion or probably cause, in order for a judge to grant them one
 
Living in Vermont, you can't get a ccp, you don't need one to carry either open or concealed.
one of a couple states that does'nt require a ccp.
The law basically says, you can carry as long as you don't intend to shoot someone.
 
Row Crop, (sorry... really long - you may know or will pick up info in class, but may enlighten someone)

My husband and I and are members of the N R A and both have carry/conceal permits. We strongly encourage any qualified and interested persons to take the class (thereby you have a permit to purchase, but still need to apply for permit to carry/conceal in our state) or obtain a permit and purchase a handgun (but then cannot carry/conceal). *Stressing that one should FIRST learn from an experienced person, how to safely handle, load, fire and clean a firearm - and keep it away from children.

I carry very frequently when traveling alone or with my kids. I feel much safer knowing I can protect myself and kids if needed. I also purchased a laser site for my .38 revolver and it is very accurate. I don't expect that I will ever need to use my pistol for personal protection - but will be glad to have it if I ever do need it.

The carry/conceal class is very informative and the range shooting test is fun. My range test ended up being held outdoors when it was -20 degrees. I am just thankful there was no wind... it was REALLY COLD! I used a 9mm Beretta for the range test (no laser on this one) - it was so cold I could barely load the magazine with 5 rounds (it holds 15)...fingers went numb. My instructor (a retired policeman) said to my husband, "Sir, your wife is a very good shot - I would recommend keeping on her good side." We both just laughed with him - he was a great instructor and helped one feel at ease during the range test.

Some important points stressed by my instructor:
1. Purchase the largest caliber pistol that you can comfortably handle (I had thought to buy a .22 semiauto... but he said a magazine full of .22's will not even phase someone who is all hopped up on drugs like Meth.)
2. He also recommended a revolver for less experienced persons instead of a semi-auto because they are much simpler to operate... since semi-auto's can malfunction in a variety of ways.
3. Practice, practice, practice - until you are really comfortable with all aspects of handling the pistol (he said you should be able to load it in your sleep... or at least in the dark).
4. Keep it cleaned and oiled, ALWAYS (a gummed-up gun is no good in a life or death situation).
5. Buy "personal protection" ammunition... is not supposed to be able to travel through walls - so others in your home (or your neighbor's home, if you live in town) will be safer if you do need to use the pistol for protection.
 
I guess I'm glad I don't live somewhere I feel threatened enough to have a gun by my bed, or try to intimidate passersby with it. I got my fill of guns in VIETNAM. I keep a 12 gauge pump in the bedroom closet,and feel that is enough here in rural Iowa.
 
Don't have a CCP but often think about it. My real reason to do it is to have the permit. It seems that once you have a license/permit/etc. for something it is more difficult to have that taken away later.
In other words, my naive thinking leads me to someday down the road where the lawmakers manage to try to get the whole CCP thing revoked, they may just stop giving any further permits but those that have them may be grandfathered. Again, my naive thoughts, based on absolutely nothing other than what I see sometimes in the professional arena with professional licenses (engineers, architects, etc..) and their regulations that keep changing.
 
Flambeauone,

I encourage your wife to get the permit also. My husband attended the class and the range shooting with me - just so I would not feel intimidated. Glad he did, class was really large and was probably 98 percent guys. Now I would feel comfortable attending by myself for permit renewal... but would not have liked it the first time.
 
Danny P.

Agree with you - change is needed. But in my opinion law abiding citizens should be able to carry/conceal anywhere. If this were allowed, perhaps several lives could have been saved in numerous situations that have been on the news... obviously every life could not be saved, but perhaps someone could stop them before the count gets so high.
 
I hate to say it, but I've given in to the government takeover.

Here in massacusetts, you used to get a firearm id card that'll let you buy long guns.

Then you get the handgun permit for handguns - with "target and hunting on it" or "any legal purpose" only if the police chief likes you.

I got those - and they both WERE good for life.

But then state decided there's no money in giving permits that are good for life.

Now mine are invalid. (fortunately I KNOW this - had I carried my handgun unaware, there is a mandatory 1 year prison sentence for carrying unlicensed)

In order to get a new license - which I believe (but not sure) is only good for 5 years - I think the cost is around $200

Sadly - I just have a hard time justifying spending that much money on a license just to have it. I don't NEED it...

So I do what every good citizen should do, I give up.

Even WITH the license - the laws are so vague and open to interpretation that you feel like a criminal every time you leave the house wtih it.

Can I drive with a rifle in the car? does the ammo HAVE to be separated and in the trunk, or is that just a recommendation. If you have a hand gun and are wearing a coat that covers it - how concealed is concealed? I live at the corner of three states - what if I accidentally go on a road that enters one of the other states?

The list of questions just goes on and on. One COULD study the laws and eventually answer them, but believe it or not, these are all questions I've asked police officers at one time or another, and they themselves did not know the answers.

There is so much opportunity to be "in the wrong" that to ME it's just not worth it.

I used to love going out target shooting and shooting clay pigeons with my brothers. But with all of our invalid good-for-life licenses - it's something we just don't do anymore.

We all gave up.

State wins.
 
davediehl,

Thanks for serving in law enforcement, admirable profession! I could not do it - nor would I want that to be my husband's job... too many drug-crazed people in this old world anymore. Seems like a simple traffic stop can easily get an officer dead these days.
 
I agree with you Old. Got my fill of them over there.Don't need to see anymore.Plus I live in a small town where everyone watches out for each other.
 
I have a carry permit here in MN. In MN the carry permit is open or concealed.

Seldom carry but it's nice being able to buy a handgun when I want without any hassle. My home defense is a barky dog and a gun close by even though we almost never have any home invasions here. Most of that is break ins when no one is home.

I never advertise that I have guns but living where I do most folks own em. A few years back the county hired a new dispatcher who was from the Twin Cities. She sent out a domestic disturbance call one night and told the responding officer "use caution there may be a gun present" All the cops were laughing about that......it's Clitheral MN (small town near me...less than 100 people).....there is a gun in every home!

Rick
 
I have not given up for WE THE PEOPLE. So far in Colorado....Yes you can get the permits, but are better off without them. Carry what you want were and how you want and it is legal. I do suggest IF YOU CARRY please know how to use it, and would be able to kill the bad person.
 
Nancy,

I would encourage you to reconsider, since you have mentioned more than once that you do think about getting a CCP. If you wait until find you need it, it will likely be too late. I would rather carry/conceal and never need it versus the other way around. I'm sure James would like to keep his Nancy around for a good long time.

A friend had car trouble a few years ago... a guy who appeared/smelled drunk stopped and was insistent about wanting to "help" her. She only opened her window a tiny, tiny crack and said "No, thank you - I don't need any help.". The guy persisted... so she said she had called her husband and he was on his way and should be arriving at any moment. The guy finally left then. *But her cell phone was actually dead and she had not called her husband... she may have been very fortunate that night. [A tow truck came by a while later and gave her a tow to the nearest town. Then she called her husband. She was pretty shaken up by the event.]
 
Not to call you naive - but sadly, it is naive to think that way.

That is EXACTLY what the state of massacusetts did.

We had good for life permits - and magically over night they were all invalidated.

I was younger at the time and didn't even know it was happening. I'm sure some people put up a stink, but I don't remember hearing of anything.

I just got a letter in the mail (actually to my OLD address - thankfully my parents were still there) telling me that my license was no longer good.

Just like that.

My state loves me and wants to protect me, it's all for the good of the collective. I simplly can't be trusted with firearms, unless I'm willing to pay several hundred dollars for my "right" to bear arms.
 
You need one of these.............
9710.jpg
 
It is people like you that make Massachusetts a laughing stalk. I have had a class A for 20 years and have had no problem buying, carrying or any other issue. The FID for long guns and sprays 'were' free for life, the pistol permits were always 5 years, and yes the fees go up just like all taxes , and petroleum products and summer temperatures. Live with it or check out.
Monday night- like just before 1 AM till well after 2, I was armed and lit -and barely dressed with 2 town officers looking thru the area for a peeping tom? burglar? someone they been wanting to talk to? They asked for my help, they got it, everyone but the suspect was happy.
I told them they can do any shooting, I don't want to be the next George Zimmerman. They laugh and say when assisting officers, they take the heat. Just don't shoot them by accident!
If you live where there are feminazis, either have the town government remove them, enter politics yourself, or you can move. The population of the whole state isn't a whimp. It is not a facist state, and has different rules thought to be within reason for the population density of the areas.
Mass now has less restrictive gun laws than Rhode Island, Conn or New York. The racial make up and population density of northern New England, not their politians explain their lax firearms laws.
You can be intimedated by your neighbors still living in the Kennedy Camelot, nnalert camp followers, or suburban cowards. You can continue to sulk in a corner, but please don't speak for those of us who don't cave in so easily. And don't use 40...actually 20, dollars a year to explain your decissions....
 
My biggest concern is even if I have a concealed carry permit a lot of places are posted that firearms are prohibited. Furthermore most places actually say no firearms on the property and it's apparently debatable as to whether locked in your car which is parked on their property is permitted.
 
Here in Nebraska, you need a permit, renewable every three years, to buy a hand gun. I keep a current purchase permit, but I've never bothered with a concealed carry permit. The laws are so vague, I figure I'll just do what I have to and worry about consequences later.

For openers, Nebraska has an open carry law. Then, too, if half the grip on a handgun is visible it's not considered concealed. But a lot is open to interpretation by a LEO on the scene.

There was a case awhile back in my county where a Sheriff's Deputy made a routine traffic stop on a pickup truck. In the process, the deputy spotted a sheathed hunting knife in the driver's door pocket. So he cited the guy for carrying a concealed weapon and actually jailed him.

I mean, you're talking probably 98% of farm pickups in the county have a hunting knife stashed somewhere. I never heard anymore about it, I suspect a sensible judge threw it out.

Then, too, my hometown erected signs on each entrance to town stating, "Legal Concealed Firearms Prohibited". (They didn't stay up very long, for some reason). I asked the Sheriff, whom I've known for years, if that meant I couldn't even drive through town during the hunting season with an unloaded shotgun in the trunk of my car. He just grinned and said, "Well, there are different ways of enforcing the same law".

Actually, he had a point. Going back to the law I studied in college, the law leans heavily on intent. "What were your intentions in a given situation?"

Having a shotgun in your car or pickup to go duck hunting, and having a shotgun at hand to blow away the mayor are two different ballgames with two different intended outcomes.

The law also considers a "Reasonable Man" factor. What would a sane and reasonable man do in the same situation? The problem is injecting sanity into the firearm issue on the judicial side.

Like someone said, if a Conservative doesn't want a firearm, he doesn't buy one. If a abundant doesn't want a firearm, he wants all firearms banned.
 
In Indiana, there are only 2 places where one can not carry by law. One is a school (obviously) and the second is any location that holds court or trials in which a person can receive a conviction. Everything else is fine by state law. The guy that tells me I can not carry in a store, is the same fella that will get state statutes read to him, though he can ask you to leave, it would be all over in the paper the following day with a letterhead from my desk.
 
As I said - for ME it's not worth it.

First - I HAVE my old pistol permit and it says right on it that it is good for life. So you're wrong about that.

but aside from that -

The fee for an FID card is $100 for 6 years.

The fee for a LTC is also $100 for 6 years.

And I still stand by the statement that it is up to your local police chief to decide if you get the full permit, or the restricted one.

I do however stand corrected on having to have both. I use to have both - but the LTC will also cover rifles and shotguns - so the full total IS $100

I was under the impression you needed both - totalling 200.

But you also have to attend a hunter safety course - not sure what the cost of that is.

I'm not sure how deciding to not carry a gun makes me a wimp...

but whatever.

Even at $100 - that, and the time to re-take a safety course is enough to make it not worth my time. I just can't be bothered.

I never owned guns to defy the state. And I'm just into them enough to start now.

Just not worth it to ME.

In fact, I'm more opposed to PAYING for my constitutional rights. And I won't do it.
 
To quote author L. Neil Smith: one should be able to carry anything; pistol, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, etc., anywhere they please, in any manner he or she chooses - openly or concealed, without any permits or gov't permission. The aforementioned are the only thing(s) acceptable to me.- Charles Hinton - 4 years military, 25 year peace officer (retired), life member JFPO and NRA.
 
Yep.. it is possible. Just in some cases you may stand a better chance of being grandfathered in. In your case... that stinks.
 
Love that last line -

I choose not to bother with the process and all of a sudden I'm getting called a abundant wimp!

That's what's always made me nervous about going in public with a gun - the laws that are "open to interpretation".

It's easy to think "oh they'll see I'm a good guy and cut me some slack".

but - I don't know about the rest of you but I've been pulled over many times in my life where the cop was a complete a-)#($*# and not about to cut slack for anything.

Those are the cops I don't want "interpreting" laws for me when the stakes are jail time for an infraction.

Granted - you'd like to think the courts are there to cut you some slack as well in that situation - but -who even wants to get to that level - paying lawyers.
 
If some one can get in your bed room with out you know'n it sounds to me like you need a bigger and louder dog. :)

Dave
 
I have thought about it alot, I carry one for skunks,bears, wolves etc. Without a permit I have to unload it before driving a vehicle. On my tractor my shotgun in its case fits right in the loader arm, just like a scabbard!
 
Yea, around here there are a lot more that say no guns. All my employers have stated that. If I can't leave it in the car in their parking lot and can't take it in, I basically can't have it while driving. Schools are a very good point too. Nobody takes guns lightly any more. I worry about things like--Your best friend says hey man I've got tied up would you pick my kid up from school. Thinking nothing about it you say sure I'll swing by on my way home. You forget the shotgun in the back seat. I know I wouldn't stop to think about it. When you pull up in front the principle stops by to say hi and sees the gun. Pictures of you in handcuffs are all over the evening news while the reporters talk about the carnage a 12 gauge shotgun can cause and how a 12 gauge was used in in the movie theater shooting. Nobody seems to give a damn that it wasn't loaded, in the back seat and you keep it in there to shoot rattlers when checking your fence lines. The nation is outraged at another gun turning up at a school and want you hung. Even the most sensible people interviewed say it's unfortunate but they have a 0 tolerance for that and the law mandates a harsh punishment. As a child we played at school with pretty realistic cap guns (before the orange thing in the barrel). We were allowed to bring unloaded BB guns one day for a play. In high school it was perfectly fine to have guns in the rack in your pickup truck parked on school grounds. Today a kid takes a water pistol to school and ends up expelled.

Actually around here they have schools so locked down they are actually talking about having people scan their finger prints and be on approved lists to pick up their child. Crazy? Well it seems some parents who don't have custody have taken their kids by showing up at their schools and picking them up. The schools don't know that the parent doesn't have custody. Are the schools worried about the child's welfare? Probably more about their liability.

As for guns again, like the other fellow said I've given up. I don't think they'll be outlawed any time soon but legally you can barely use them any more.
 
So which letter trumps the other? Who was the letter that said your lifetime permit was invalod from? Who issued the lifetime permit?
 
I have a ccp and bought it for the exact reason of what happened in colorado. I can't see just letting the criminals have guns. had my ccp about 18months before that i always had a handgun permit!
 
Okay I'm getting confused here maybe someone can help me out. The US Supreme Court has validated that I- a US Citizen has a right to "keep and bear arms" this right is guaranteed by the constitution. Now here in Wisconsin a judge has placed and injunction upon the requirement to have photo ID to vote because requiring someone to spend $20 to get a state photo ID impairs their constitutional right to vote. Yet you have to get permits and as a poster said pay $200 for a 5 year permit to get a gun, why is this not an infringement on my rights? Next question I would like answered a few years ago when I was working in Florida one of our employees was robbed at gun point and beaten over the head. This happened while he was servicing a public school. How can some one rob a person at gunpoint on school grounds because they aren't allowed to have guns on school property? Why didn't they obey the law and wait and rob him at the KFC he was to service next?

We talk about guns in schools and the number of people killed in schools, yet no one seems to remember or even talk about Bath Michigan were 45 people were killed (May 1927)at school. Is it because Andy Kehoe didn't use any guns or is it because he killed all those people in a tax protest?
 
Had my CCP since Michigan was changed to a "shall issue" state. I carry 99% of the time I am awake. If a business has a "no carry" sign up then I go to a different establishment, as I don't want to dig my pistol out of my pocket.

Do I feel "tougher" or "more manly" because I carry it? Nope.

I carry because it is my right as a citizen. And a right not exercised is a right lost.
 
A reading of this thread reveals one sad, central truth: even though the constitution acknowledges (not gives) our RIGHT to own and carry, "reasonable" limitations continue to be imposed through the years, each successive one opening the way for more, newer "reasonable" limitations that will ultimately erode that original right into meaningless.

Sure, it's "reasonable" to assume the average citizen has no legitimate need to own a full-auto weapon, or a mortar, or a bazooka or a stinger missle. I essentially agree, but it's the ongoing extension of such arguments that gets us to the place where it limits who can carry what, when and where. It also becomes "reasonable" to limit caliber, powder charge, projectile weight and composition, number of chamberable rounds, etc., chipping away until finally, like JRSutton, you get tired of the hassle and give up.

That's not an accidental outcome. That's the plan. I used to be irritated when the NRA so strongly defended what appeared to be "extreme" positions, such as the "cop-killing ammo". Now I know that they were simply acting on the correct belief that to surrender any ground will eventually lead to full defeat. Chip. Chip. Chip.
 
No permit, loaded .357 in the nightstand on my side 9mm on wife's side,loaded shotgun under the bed. I ain't scared just feel more comfortable that way.
Friend of ours lives out in the country hears something in living room in the middle of the night. Gets up, turns on the light finds a Mexican in his house with a machete. The guy heads back towards his children's bedroom he dives over couch and tackles the guy and takes machete from him in time for his wife to come out with shotgun and hold him for 1.5 hrs till police arrive. Didn't even make the news. When seconds count police are only minutes away.
Ron
 
I got a Nebraska concealed carry for only one reason...... For the first time in 40 years I AM LEGAL!!!!!!! I am 56 now, I most always have 1 to 5 in the farm truck at all times!!!!!!!! I dont feel any reason to carry otherwise.
 
Kinda funny but I keep a loaded firearm by my bed not because I'm worried about someone I don't know breaking in.....I keep it there cause I have a nephew who hates me because my parents left me the farm and he wanted it. He isn't too tightly wrapped.

He did 6 months in the state pen for "unusual cruelty to animals" and "making an animal do unusual labor". He also has some anger issues.

Rick
 
It's the states rules - the state wins.

There's no fighting it.

In reality - if by some chance I got arrested carrying a gun while unlicensed - and I used the defense that I thought I WAS licensed because of what this state issued document says -

... ignorance is not innocence - but I like to think a court would let it slide.
 
(quoted from post at 10:38:10 08/02/12) Okay I'm getting confused here maybe someone can help me out. The US Supreme Court has validated that I- a US Citizen has a right to "keep and bear arms" this right is guaranteed by the constitution. Now here in Wisconsin a judge has placed and injunction upon the requirement to have photo ID to vote because requiring someone to spend $20 to get a state photo ID impairs their constitutional right to vote. Yet you have to get permits and as a poster said pay $200 for a 5 year permit to get a gun, why is this not an infringement on my rights? Next question I would like answered a few years ago when I was working in Florida one of our employees was robbed at gun point and beaten over the head. This happened while he was servicing a public school. How can some one rob a person at gunpoint on school grounds because they aren't allowed to have guns on school property? Why didn't they obey the law and wait and rob him at the KFC he was to service next?

We talk about guns in schools and the number of people killed in schools, yet no one seems to remember or even talk about Bath Michigan were 45 people were killed (May 1927)at school. Is it because Andy Kehoe didn't use any guns or is it because he killed all those people in a tax protest?
Click to expand...

Kehoe killed those folks because he didn't want to pay taxes.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

super99
Lost my phone
2
Replies
29
Views
2K
wp6529
W
P
Rifle on a tractor again
2
Replies
20
Views
1K
the tractor vet
T
T
More on New Medicare Card Issuance
Replies
2
Views
503
jimg.allentown
J
MarkB_MI
Is that trailer battery getting charged?
Replies
15
Views
729
MarkB_MI
MarkB_MI
stevieb49829
Defaulting to Classic at sign on
Replies
5
Views
187
cpratt
cpratt
Tractor Parts Tractor Manuals

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today.

Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters
Website Accessibility Policy

Back
Top