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Removing shaft from front axel (questions pics)

SweetFeet

SweetFeet

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Need to remove the shaft from front axel of a Farmall F20 (going to put the axel on our Regular as it has bad threads).

1. Is it a straight key or a halfmoon key that holds the axel straight on the shaft?

2. Husband has tried heating with torch and pressing out with a 20 ton hydrualic jack...not working.

3. Anybody with experience in doing this have a better method? Or does he just need to buy a 30 ton jack to put in his press-frame?

Thanks so much if you can help!
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Be forewarned, they are TIGHT! I tried pressing one out in the past with a 20 ton press and it did not budge! So, yes, you will probably need a bigger press.
 
Nebraska Kirk,

Husband says, (quoting SHREK here) "Well, thanks... THAT explains a lot!" So he's actually been trying to press it in tighter, if anything at all!

He will flip it over and try it the other way! Plus, he said he may still need to buy a 30 ton jack for his press, since his 20 ton is pretty old probably weaker than it used to be.

Will try to remember to post if he ever gets the beast loose or not. Guess worst case scenario is that we will have to take it to a machine shop if he cannot get it.

THANKS MUCH!
 
The Red,

Thanks, will do that too. Just 'cuz more heads are always better than one! Love YT for this very reason.
 
Clean it grease free, Put it over a charcoal grill for an hour. Turn it shaft down in the press, and then chill the shaft while the block is still hot. This shrinks the shaft while the block is expanded. It should come out easily. Rap on the block while using the pressure. I also (as noted below) do not recommend using a bigger jack unless the press frame was designed for it. sometimes they explode before bending. Jim
 
Tried this on a wide front spindle for a 4020, make one from two. No heat but made a 50 ton press come off of the floor and a couple guys fill there pants in the shop. Was successful and is still on the tractor today, 15 years ago and a 148 loader on it. chris
 
Janicholson,

Thanks, will tell him this also!

Press is pretty good sized... homemade and beefy frame.
 
Thanks. Think he is going to give it another try to remove it this afternoon. It is the axel/spindle he is after... the shaft was actually torched off at a junkyard.
 
(quoted from post at 08:10:23 07/08/12) Nebraska Kirk,

Husband says, (quoting SHREK here) "Well, thanks... THAT explains a lot!" So he's actually been trying to press it in tighter, if anything at all!

He will flip it over and try it the other way! Plus, he said he may still need to buy a 30 ton jack for his press, since his 20 ton is pretty old probably weaker than it used to be.

Will try to remember to post if he ever gets the beast loose or not. Guess worst case scenario is that we will have to take it to a machine shop if he cannot get it.

THANKS MUCH!
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When you place your blocks under the axle to support it while pressing out the shaft, be sure you place your supports as close to the shaft as you can, otherwise you will bend the spindles.
 
Kirk,
I think Sweet's husband has it set up correctly.

We're looking at the bottom side of the axle. The chamfered end of the shaft went into the tapered bore of the axle first and has to come out last. The other end of the shaft was torched off and is on the bottom of the axle as shown in the pics.
Pete
 
(quoted from post at 13:54:59 07/08/12) Kirk,
I think Sweet's husband has it set up correctly.

We're looking at the bottom side of the axle. The chamfered end of the shaft went into the tapered bore of the axle first and has to come out last. The other end of the shaft was torched off and is on the bottom of the axle as shown in the pics.
Pete
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AHHH! The light bulb came on! I see what you mean, I was wrong! It is set up correctly, I saw that vertical shaft and assumed it was the shaft that was being pressed out :oops: :oops:

I still say the support blocks need to be closer to the center, preferably just clearing the shaft that is being removed. Set up the way the picture shows and considering how much pressure it will take to remove the piece, you WILL bend the spindles!
 
(quoted from post at 15:00:35 07/08/12)
(quoted from post at 13:54:59 07/08/12) Kirk,
I think Sweet's husband has it set up correctly.

We're looking at the bottom side of the axle. The chamfered end of the shaft went into the tapered bore of the axle first and has to come out last. The other end of the shaft was torched off and is on the bottom of the axle as shown in the pics.
Pete
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AHHH! The light bulb came on! I see what you mean, I was wrong! It is set up correctly, I saw that vertical shaft and assumed it was the shaft that was being pressed out :oops: :oops:

I still say the support blocks need to be closer to the center, preferably just clearing the shaft that is being removed. Set up the way the picture shows and considering how much pressure it will take to remove the piece, you WILL bend the spindles!
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Set it up with the blocks right next to the shaft. Now for the hardened, chromed 13/16 socket. When that hollow socket shatters under 30 tons of pressure I wouldn't want to be there. Calculate the psi on the rim of that socket :shock:
 
36F30,

Socket was removed earlier today, entire unit turned back to original position with blocks better placed... still won't budge. Calling a machine shop tomorrow to see what size press they have.
 
Pete in MD,

Thanks, for mentioning the chamfered end... that is the thing that made him decide he had it positioned correctly the first time. However, it still won't budge. So tomorrow will call a machine shop to see what they have to say and what size press they have. Thanks again!
 
Nebraska Kirk,

Thanks. Pete in MD mentioning chamfered edge helped husband decide that it was positioned correctly initially. And he did raise it close to press/jack... removed the socket and did reposition the blocks so they are under the housing (or whatever it is called)- actually now "just clearing" the shaft to be removed... STILL WILL NOT BUDGE. Calling a machine shop tomorrow to see what size press they have or what else they have to say.
 
DH in Carolina,

Thanks for the idea. But he wants to find a way to remove it... because this axel/spindle and housing is to be used on our Regular. Soooooooo, he's going to have to remove that one too, to install this one on the tractor. Though he does want me to call our local machine shop tomorrow to see what they have to say. So maybe we will end up paying them to do both items.

We just don't like to spend money if we don't have too... and thought someone out in YT might have a method that would work.
 
Heat the whole thing, to 250-300 degrees, then take a beeswax candle, and press into the seam you want to split. Let the wax seep in, and the part cool, then try pressing.
 
Diydave,

Thanks, will tell him this too. Not sure where one can get pure beeswax locally though.
 
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