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Anyone dumped styrofoam peanuts into fuel tanks.?

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Wardner

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What about coffee cups, packing peanuts and moulded electronics packaging, and beadboard insulation added to gas or diesel tanks? The Styrofoam seams to dissolve completely and nearly instantly. Probably not much energy as the foam has little weight or density. But it would be a good way to recycle/use a product that won't biodegrade.
 
having worked in a chemical plant for 40 + yrs. and knowing what styrofoam is made from i think thats a bad idea
 
An interesting concept. I use float trays for tobacco plants (1200per year). What ratio? Will they burn clean? I may try it on my neighbors tractor first.
 
ok heres a official request for 1 forum member to actually do that and report the results, umm no, this old man isnt going to be that guy
 
As fast as a stack of'm will make a brush pile go bye bye just think of how fast that new tractor will run!!!!

:)

Dave
 
As a mechanic by trade I don't think it would be a good idea. While I'm no chemical engineer I do know that when a piece of styrofoam is only partly disolved the remainder always seems a bit sticky. It's those additional chemicals in the mix that create 'the sticky' that I would br worried about, along with any additional debris that might have gotten into the mix as the stuff was being made. Like I said, not a chemical engineer so I don't know and can't speak as to the validity of my thinking in terms beyond what I've stated so far. Regardless of that, I really don't think it's a good idea, if for no other reason than there are guys out there truely qualified to make those types of claims and if it was a viable option I believe, given the current green thinking (not to mention how much the majority of people hate those peanuts and wish there was a good way to get rid of them)someone would have 'patented the idea' and been making money on it somehow.
But that's just me thinking.......
 
(quoted from post at 07:29:22 06/22/12) As a mechanic by trade I don't think it would be a good idea. While I'm no chemical engineer I do know that when a piece of styrofoam is only partly disolved the remainder always seems a bit sticky. It's those additional chemicals in the mix that create 'the sticky' that I would br worried about, along with any additional debris that might have gotten into the mix as the stuff was being made. Like I said, not a chemical engineer so I don't know and can't speak as to the validity of my thinking in terms beyond what I've stated so far. Regardless of that, I really don't think it's a good idea, if for no other reason than there are guys out there truely qualified to make those types of claims and if it was a viable option I believe, given the current green thinking (not to mention how much the majority of people hate those peanuts and wish there was a good way to get rid of them)someone would have 'patented the idea' and been making money on it somehow.


But that's just me thinking.......
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Guys don't be so quick to smash this idea.
Petroleum products;gasoline,fuel,oil,etc are all some variation on the C(Carbon)H(hydrogen) chain. The variable is the molecular weight. Much of what we use comes from petroleum fractions. Styrofoam cups, sugar,medicines,etc are all made from it. That being said they all contain C(Carbon), which is bondable to some degree. Now it becomes a matter of determining how much you can dissolve versus how much your engine will tolerate. I think he has an excellent idea. It would probably qualify for some sort of a Govt. grant to research. Heck it would even qualify under the Green guidelines for a tax credit.

(fuelsandlubestechnologies.org)
 
I do know they are making styro peanuts out of starch or something like it. It is biodegadable in water. Only leaves a starch. Still wouldn't think they would be safe.
 
If anyone decides to do it, just be sure to get and post a cell phone picture of the look on your mechanic's face when you tell him why your injector pump siezed up. . .

"You did WHAT?"
 
(quoted from post at 09:01:31 06/22/12) If anyone decides to do it, just be sure to get and post a cell phone picture of the look on your mechanic's face when you tell him why your injector pump siezed up. . .

"You did WHAT?"
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Heck I will do it! I own a fuel testing lab in Pa. The trouble will be that you guys won't believe me anyway. Curiosity has the best of me now. I guess I will be the one to get all of the Govt grant money, etc. LOL.
 
I'm probably going to get into trouble for this, but maybe not as much as I would if I stuffed some old egg cartons in my gas tanks!
Several things remind me of the way AC built theirs. But they weren't big on three point, being "hooked" on the snap-coupler, and I don't know what other companies had similar ideas.- The sort of triangular, vertical plates on the front- the way the frame is made- the clips under the bolt heads, I believe covering another set of holes for changing cut width, the hollow tube internally threaded, and flattened on one end.
Perhaps it's a composite- home made?
 
I wonder how many folks have a mason jar set'n on a shelf in the garage with bout a cup of gasoline and an inch of sugar at the bottom.
 
Beside the monomers that were cooked to make the solid of styrene (which melts, but stays polymeric), the gasses used to expand the plastic contain chlorene. (both CFC and HFC), when these are burnt it makes Phosgene gas. Heavy nerve gas, Bad, Very Bad. Jim
 
It looks like an AC, possibly a snap coupler plow, adapted to 3 point hitch. I'd guess an 82, cause it has the trips.
 
My questions would be will it burn dirty enough to plug the cats on vehicles with converters, EPA compliant and any other potential damage can it cause??? I think if the idea had any merit one of the petrol chemical companies would have discovered it, patent it, add it at the refinery and advertise their gas as giving a big boost in mileage/HP.

Rick
 
An aside, but I was under the impression that they no longer used cfc's for expanded foam. Thought laws changed or something.
 
(quoted from post at 00:58:31 06/22/12) What about coffee cups, packing peanuts and moulded electronics packaging, and beadboard insulation added to gas or diesel tanks? The Styrofoam seams to dissolve completely and nearly instantly. Probably not much energy as the foam has little weight or density. But it would be a good way t
cycle/use a product that won't biodegrade.
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By chance; do you happen to know my cousin Ole's brother-in-law Ijnvuld?? Ijnvuld was about to tow his tractor to the scrap yard. The fuel tank was rusted out; so it wouldn't hold water, so he stuffed it full of styrofoam popcorn to gain some extra weight.. I bit shady; but it kept him out of other mischief for nine hours..

But, I think Ijnvuld's idea might have your idea beat for now. :lol:
 
As kids we used to "dissolve" polystyrene in gasoline and the result is a sticky goo that most call Napalm..... Wouldn't want that in anything that wasn't intended to be destroyed by fire
 
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