Loader wheel

Dan S (NY)

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I have an old Trojan loader that the tires are about shot which I want to replace. The problem is the rims are the old removable bead type (not sure what they are really called) and I have heard not many places want to work on them, and on one wheel someone welded this ring in place. Is there a common wheel out there that would work as a replacement? They are 13x24 rims with 10 lugs. Center to center across the lugs is 11 1/4 inches and the center hole is 8 1/2 inches. One thought was to cut the centers out and weld them into a modern style blank rim, but I don't have the welding know how or equipment to do this type of job so it would have to be hired out. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Dan
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Any tire shop worth anything will work on those wheels. Those are the same settup as fertilizer floaters and the like run, plus most construction equipment still runs that type.
 
Many places - most places - will no longer work on a rather rare 'spilt rim' setup that screws apart in the center of the rim, like you would take apart an Oreo cookie.

The split rings - there are several designs, including one that has 3 pieces - have the split peice as a ring around the edge of the rm are fine to work on with approved cages and equipment, and any good farm or truck tire shop should be well equiped to work on such a rim as yours appears to be.

(I just went through this as - surprise - my F-600 turned out to have the bad split rims - nicknamed 'widowmakers'.)

The welded on one is going to be a problem of course.

Some manure spreaders might have that sort of size of rim on them? Donno.

--->PAul
 
I could be wrong but I only see two welds at the top. You could take a cut off disc on an angle grinder and very carefully cut the welds and get the ring off. Then take a wire wheel brush and really clean the rust off the ring and wheel. I would rather change a tire on a split rim wheel if I had my druthers.
 
The size of tire is the same as a lot of roadgraders, you might try there. For safety reasons, most shops refuse to work on 3 piece split rims. Also, be advised that heat from grinding may cause a condition known as tire pyrolosis which is a five dollar word for a tire burning on the inside, causing a massive increase in tire pressure, and eventual tire explosion. If the wheel that has the welds on it has a blown out tire, I would not hesitate to grind the welds off. If the tire holds air, grind, and get the tire off asap!
 
Before you start cutting or grinding, remove the valve stem core! Heat will cause the tire to over-pressurize and might explode. I don"t care how little grinding you do.
 
If the ring has been welded throw it away, no one in their right mind would work on this rim. It's ruined beyond repair. Take my word for it you may wind up dead with the ring wrapped around yor neck.
If someone want to work on it be sure to leave the country before he starts. These rings are made from spring steel and the welding has just removed the spring tension in it.
Walt
 
Thanks for all the replys. I have heard of the pyrolysis effect and did not intend to weld or do any other cutting on the rims with the tires installed. The wheel in the picture is the better one, the other has all the ugly welds to hodl the ring on. What I would really like is to find a set of good wheels to replace these with and not mess with them, but I will probobly bring them to a few local ag tire places to see what they say. I'm betting they won't touch the buggerd up welded one.

Thanks again,

Dan
 
removing the valve stem won't prevent pyrolysis, once it starts. Can put out more air/ smoke than the stem is capable of venting. This was in the video I saw on it.
 

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