What would you do?

NCWayne

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Bee thinking about this since this afternoon and I'm just curious as to what you fellows might do in the same situation.

Dad called me this afternoon to tell me that his biological father, my biolgical grandfather had passed away last night. The thing is neither of us has seen the man in about 42 years. Based on what I am told, the last time I was about 2 years old, and it was at a funeral for his mother (Dad's grandma).

Longer story short, he up and left my Grandma when Dad was about 10, and, based on what we heard from the rest of the family, he went on to have numerous girlfriend, and several wives, and at least one or two half brothers for Dad, over the years that we know of. Grandma remarried several years later to the man Dad called Dad, and the man I called my Grandpa, and they stayed together, til death parted them, and both passed away in their late 60's close to 20 years ago. Last we heard 'Bert's' current wife (still current we don't really know) didn't even know this part of the family tree existed, even though Dad was his first born, and a Jr to boot.

So, my question, in my position would you even bother to go to the funeral or even the viewing? We still haven't gotten all of the info as to when everything is but what we have been told puts it at close to a 3 to 4 hour drive just to get to where he was living, and then there is another 3 to 4 hours back. The ride alone makes it questionable for me to even think about, given the current pressing nature of the work I've got going on. Too I'm really not sure what kind of mess might get stirred up if I did go and, being a 'stranger' was asked how I knew him and responded that I was actually his first grand kid....and I'd do my best NOT to finish that sentence with, 'that he disowned like he did his first son'..... Regardless of what was said I dang sure wouldn't lie about my blood relationship to the man, but at the same time don't know how the shock of finding out there was a branch of the family tree out there that none of his current family even knew existed would go over.


With all of that said, I know my presence at the prodeedings will never be missed, and as far as that goes, I really wouldn't have any real regrets if I didn't go either, since I never really knew the man. Still I'd be lying if I didn't admit to at least a little bit of curiousity about the other branches of the family tree..........

So, I really don't know what I'm going to do yet, but I was still curious as to what ya'll might do in the same situation.
 
I'd go. You can't change the past, and it will be interesting to see the other family members.
 
"and, being a 'stranger' was asked how I knew him"
Are you sure you'd be a stranger?
Maybe he had regrets later in life about things he had done when he was younger and talked about them to his "adulthood" family.
Half-blood/whole-blood, still family that you haven't met. Maybe you'd want to, maybe you'd meet them and say it was a waste of time.
Ultimately up to you of course.
I only have one or two things in my life that I regret doing.
I have a laundry list of things I wish I had done.
 
The way it sounds to me you really don't want to go, but the back of your mind tells you it's tradition to respect your elders and go to their funeral. There's two ways to look at it, and you've probably already thought of this.

From the view of an outsider looking in, I'd say stay home. He didn't have any interest in you, that you know of, so why should you have any interest in him. He was a father but he wasn't a dad.

Looking from the humanitarian side, you should go even though you will be a stranger. In the future, at least you can say you were a gentleman and went to grandpa's funeral. Jim
 
At worse you'll travel 8-10 hours and have an awkward few hours at the funeral. At best maybe you'll find they knew a little more about you than you think or might be willing/wanting to know more about you. You might also learn some more about the rascal and maybe get a better understanding to what caused him to do what he did. You could get closure. My dad found out he had an additional cousin while in his late 60's, seems one of his Aunts that "didn't have kids" had three. One of them shows up at a family reunion. It's not that we do much with the new cousin but we know he is there and being acknowledged by his birth mother's family seemed to mean something to him. My maternal grandmother disowned my mom and threw her out of the house day after Christmas 1956 (Grandma didn't care for my dad, mom announced her engagement) would of been thrown out on Christmas but Great grandma was there and wouldn't allow it. Before Grandma died she estranged 2 of her 4 kids and one of those was two states away and didn't have much to do with her. About a month before she died the daughter that she still spoke to sat her down and told her some things about her grand kids and great great grand kids, I think at that time she realized what she missed. Knowing about Grandma's mental illness explains a lot, especially about her youngest daughter, I never knew Grandma but the stories make the nutty Aunt a little more tolerable (apple didn't fall far from the tree). Personally I'd go if nothing else to get information to put on the family tree, the family that knew him might appreciate your presence as part of their grief process, a chance to celebrate his life and share it with you, or you might find out you didn't miss much.
 
Go. You really have nothing to lose but a day's work and a couple of tanks of gas. As the years go by you'll wish more and more that you had filled in some of the blanks in your family history, regardless of any sentiment. My advice to everyone on this board: talk to the old-timers now while you still can. Ask questions. Write stuff down. I blew my chances.
 
Nah, best we know he never even mentioned this part of the family and the part of the family he did associate with (ie-his immediate kin) were told that they were to never tell any of his 'current' family about us. Too he didn't even bother to attend his own sisters funeral when she passed. It was assumed, by the rest of the family that he did associate with, that he didn't attend because he knew Dad was going to be there and he didn't want the cat to get out of the bag.
 
I would do what makes you feel best, you are the one who looks at yourself in the mirror every morning. Good luck with your decision.
 
The way I see it you or your father didn"t make any effort to see him for 42 years while he was living nor did he try to contact you guys.I think that determines that their was no desire or want to communicate so why now when he is dead? It would serve no purpose as you can"t start a relationship now. This is just my 2 cents as I believe when someone is alive that you want to say something to--GO and do it before its too late!
 

I'm going to disagree with several of the other posters and say that I wouldn't bother. It sounds like it will be quite an inconvenience to you with your other obligations, and it may open a can of worms that you don't need to open.
It doesn't seem that you have any real connection to him, other than he was a sperm donor. Tough decision, I am sure.
Best of luck, whatever you decide.

Myron
 
Your right, thinking about it, in one way I really don't want to go because I feel it would be hypocritical to 'pay my respects' to someone I have absolutely no respect for. At the same time there is still the curisioty factor if nothing else. The problem there is that I really don't think I'd feel right going just for that reason either. Especially if it had the potential to cause any further shock, or whatever, to an already grieving family. Basically dang'd if I do, and dang'd if I don't....
 
I agree with the "you may open a can of worms that you don 't want to."

I would not go "He gave nothing and you owe nothing"
 
I would NOT go. I would send a card, and probably a letter explaining your relationship to the man that offered to get in touch with your relatives. As as a blood relative who was not on "speaking terms' with the man it would be awkward and possibly intimidating (or even viewed badly) to the other mourners who DID have a current relationship with him. In other words if you're not mourning yourself, or at least not lending your support for person who is mourning, I wouldn't go to the funeral.
 
I wouldn't go. If there is someone in the family that you have had contact with, send a condolence card.
Funerals are mostly to comfort the grieving survivers, & to share their grief.
My family wasn't real close. The last time I saw 2 of my cousins was in 1942. That's right, 70 years ago. All I remember is that Mom told me I rode the train to Montana with her for their Dad's funeral. Have no idea if they are still alive or not.
Last time I saw some of the cousins on Dad's side was at their parents 50th anniversary, in 1980. 3 of them are now gone too.
In short, if you have a relationship with the survivers, take a day off & go. Otherwise don't go.
Willie
 
After 42 years would you even know him if you met him on the street? Stay home and enjoy the day doing something you want.

Larry
 
I would not go, since you never even knew the man. He was not a grandpa to you in any fashion whatsoever.

I can understand if you are curious, or would like to meet them to get whatever family/medical history that you can - then make arrangements to do so. But I think it would be better to do it in a few weeks when some of their shock has worn off. Could be that his wife and other children are decent people... even if he was not.
 
Funerals are actually for those of us still here, not the ones that have passed.
It is your decison and you are not going to burn in Hell with either decison.
 
Go to a stranger's funeral.
Why?
My wife and I have considered this issue. We go to a funeral if it's someone we respect. And it's just as apt NOT to be a "relative".
 
That story could almost be about me except my grandfather died when I was 8 years old. He lived only about 30 miles from us but I never saw the guy. Looking back we also didn't go to the funeral.
 
I would go.You might just find out that what your grandfather did, was what he thought was the best for everyone involved at the time.There might be some things that you might not be confortable with when you hear them about both sides of the familys but maybe it would help you understand more about why things are the way they are.In my opinion some people have to much pride to make things right or just dont know how to go about it.If you dont take advantage of this opertunity to better understand this sisuation you might just get to the perly gates and think, I wonder if grandpa is up here and if he is will I know him or what will I say to him. To me it would help with my peace of mind.
 
(quoted from post at 05:20:26 05/25/12) You don't owe the Jerk anything for sure,just do whats in your heart to satisfy how you feel,personally I'd spend the day working.

I wouldn't go. If he didn't contact you in 42 years, why would you even bother. He obviously didn't care, so why should you.
 
If you don't go and choose to ignore the whole situation you would be lowering yourself to his level. You wouldn't be posting it here if it didn't bother you. Now's your chance and only chance to satisfy your curiosity and make yourself known. You may have siblings you would be glad to know. They are probably just as curious as you are! You have nothing to loose. A death in the family can seperate or bring a family together for life. I'm sure he's wondered about you for many years but never had the courage to face you or your father! God Bless you!
 
I would certainly go. I'd much rather regret going than to later regret not going. You may actually meet some nice people. As someone down the page said, forgive and forget. Very few of us have led perfect lives. Good luck. TDF
 
Do not go. The ole saying is "time wounds all heals" is true. Separate the two issues. One is the funeral, and there is absolutely no need to go, nor is it wise. You could upset all the man's current loved ones and make the day miserable for all of them. "they" dont deserve that. Second issue is if you want to establish contacts with missing distant relatives. If you want, you can do that later after the funeral memories are dimmed; it up to you. Tom
 
Wayne if it were me I would go. I have a friend that was in the same boat 6 years ago and he didnt know weather to go or not and like you he was curious about him. He went and found out more than he could dream of and left with a better fealing about him and was glad he went. The only thing you know about him is what your family has told you and you have never known his side of things. If you go keep an open mind you could be suprised from what you learn there. Bandit
 
I'd go ahead and go. You might meet a lot of nice, interesting people.

My wife was adopted and her biological family is similarly screwed up. She has six full brothers that she found when she was 42. Their biological mother was more interested in whoring around and making more kids than she was in taking care of the ones she already had.

Besides my wife and her six brothers,(two are now deceased), the biological mother went on to have 7 to 9 more children who would be half brothers and sisters to my wife. No one has ever figured out exactly how many. The biological mother was still living when my wife found the rest of her siblings, but my wife very emphatically did not want to meet her, saying, "She may have given birth to me, but she was not my Mom".

My wife and her brothers and half siblings have a reunion every Labor Day, and at every reunion someone shows up that we've never seen before.

My wife and her brothers joke that they know they all had the same biological mother, but they're not sure they all had the same biological father.

If it were me, I'd go ahead and go, and try to turn it into a positive experience.
 
How in the world did your dad find out about his death?
Must have been someone keeping up with your side of the family more than you knew?
 
I'd not go. Takes more than blood to make someone "family". I'd not hold any grudges or have any bad words to say, but I'd rather spend my time on someone who was real family.
 
(quoted from post at 06:25:53 05/25/12) How in the world did your dad find out about his death?
Must have been someone keeping up with your side of the family more than you knew?

Integrity and Respect? You can't be serious. I doubt anyone there would comprehend the concept.
 
I would be concerned with what your dad wanted - if he would prefer you did or did not attend, I'd place a lot of weight on that.

Otherwise, it is an interesting deal. Want to meet some 1/2 relatives you likely never will have the chance to meet again, or just not be concerned about all that & forget about it. I can see both sides, my kneejerk reaction was going to be skip it not worth going, but as I'm typing I see another side, sometimes the family tree - no matter how twisted - can be interesting and of value. Even if you see 25 jerks on that side of the family tree, you might meet a couple of good ones, and have something of value from it all.

I donno. Whatever you decide, I don't see a real right or wrong of it, however you feel that day? If you think you would regret not going, you don't get a do-over, so go if you have the inclination at all.....

--->Paul
 
Be a gentlement, go to the service, prove to the world,
you are well above, all the past, and begin to start
a new, You will feel real good about yourself. And set a
real example. Best of luck to you.
 
This is a tough decision.

Although I knew my grandfather and he was never mean to me, I came to realize later in my adult life that for some reason, he did not like either myself or my sisters.

When he died, one of my sisters and I made the drive, rented hotel rooms and went to the funeral.

I think we went more for my dad"s sake, even though he was no longer living.

The only benefit I got from going was seeing my cousins. I don"t regret going. I think I would have regretted not going because our cousins were not aware of his dislike for us and would not have understood why we didn"t go.
 
I wouldn't go because on a deal like that after the services, they might pass the hat around and expect you to help pay for the funeral even though he didn't even give you the time of day. mike
 
NCWayne: If the Funeral is in a church, I would tend to go due to the teachings in the Bible. I would avoid personal comments and just let the words from the Pastor/Priest say whats needed..
Our family was not good and thats how I handeled it and I am glad over the years that I just let the church "teachings" handle it.. I felt my job was to show up and be respectful rather then talk much at all about anything bad. ag
 
Its a tough call and so far you have some good advice. For myself I would say if my dad was inclined to go I would make the ride together . Go in pay my respects and say a prayer for him,then back out to the car and on the road. I say this only to avoid the feeling of regret I may or may not have . But I think I would just go. As far as the negative guys ,well they have some good points too. I don't engage in converstaion at these wakes anyway. At a three hour ride and work very busy in this economy a card could be appropriate as well. If you do go take the Tempatations CD so you can listen to "Papa was a rolling stone, The only thing he left was alone" Tough call. If you think you will later regret not going then go.
 
Go!!! I had the same deal for the most part. Saw a few people at the funeral home that I already knew. Turns out we were cousins and never knew it.

If you can afford the day off work go.

Rick
 
Write down the the pros and cons then decide. Don't go with a chip on your shoulder. Go because you want to and then make the best possible day of it. You may meet some very nice relatives and enjoy their presence as much as they will enjoy yours. That is a long trip to make in a day with 8 hours of driving and about 3 for the funeral.
 
My dad was adopted when he was less than 2 years old. He never met his birth parents after the adoption, and both were dead by the time he was 24. His adoptive mom was a real bi.....er, a real piece of work. His adoptive dad left his wife when he was 63 years old to run off with a younger woman [and on some levels, I can't say I blame him]. Four months later, he came back. I don't know that I ever saw my dad cry at his mom's funeral, but I saw him break down when his dad passed away.

If you think your presence will open old wounds, either for your dad or for your grandfather's family, then you probably shouldn't make the trip. BUT if you think you might gain closure on a less-than-pleasant chapter in your [or your dad's] life, then by all means go. If going would be interpreted by anyone as being a spiteful move, then stay home.

Just my point of view, and my take on what I'd do if I was in your shoes.
 
In situations similar to yours, I tend to follow the advice of Samuel Clemens (or was it Mark Twain)in that most of your regrets you feel in your old age will be over those things you didn"t do rather than the things that you did do. Now in my more elderly years, I find those are truly words of wisdom.

I would go, but would not be there in any sense of showing anything other than my own sense of curiousity about that side of my genetic inheritence.
 
he chose to leave and stayed gone for 42 years till he died,

I'd let him stay gone,

that's just me, the older I get the less I tolerate folks that chose to stay away from me, if they want to stay away I let them
 
It does make me curious what his side of the story might be, were he still around to tell it.
Having experience with an ex-wife makes one think about such things.
 
If I was in your shoes- If your Dad wanted to go I would go with him. If your Dad doesnt want to go I would maybe ask him what he thought about you going , If he did'nt care for the idea I would not go. If he had no objections I would probably go to the calling hours .
 
If you go, you go for the living family who had nothing to do with what grandpa did or did not do.
Grandpa is dead, nothing you do or say can hurt him it would only hurt others who had no part in what he did.

You might meet a lot of other caring family who you will enjoy meeting, possibly for the first time.
 
Think I'd go. The old gene-pole is a funny thing. I'd say little and observe a lot. One of his other grand kids may look more like you, or one of your children, than you'd think. Case-in-point: About a year ago these people get in touch, want to meet me, claim to be related. Meet, shake hands, guy said we had the same grandpa! They were doing a family tree, geneology study or whatever. Seems my grandad had lived in a boarding house, working in the mines and got too close to the lady working in the house and supposedly sired a boy. Grandpa might not have ever known about this boy - maybe moved on to another job, another town. I listened, didn't pay much mind. They pull out pics of this guy-suposed to be my mother's half brother. I didn't say much, but the guy looked more like my oldest son than I do. That's like three generations ago and the genes rare their handsome head. Just interesting.
 
I would go, with or without your Dad. Your Dad still remembers him, and his step dad, so he can decide for himself. But you never even knew your own real g'father, being 2 when you saw him last. My Grandfather (Dad's dad) left and my Dad never had a relationship with him. I saw him a few times when I was a teenager, behind my Dad's and G'ma's back. Mom knew about it but it would have made both furiously mad. At the time, I was just curious about him. Now that my Dad, grandpa and ~ma are gone, we (Mom and I)have a closer and closer contact with my step aunt (his stepsister), and all of his side of the family, reunions almost every year, visits, etc. I would not want to miss that for anything in MY LIFE!!
In the end, you can decide for yourself only, not for your Dad. And as it was stated before, all those folks really don't know you, and what I can gather it is not their fault either, but they are still living .... and so are you.
On a very personal note, multiple girlfriends, wives, etc.....: My Grandfather started out as a Roman Catholic Priest....many "transfers", ....then Old Catholic (German splinter off the RCCh), ...protestant minister..... deacon.... layman...you fill in the rest. He still was my grandfather.
Ralph.
 
I would go. I learned a long time ago that funerals are for the survivors, not the decedent. You offer your condolences to the survivors, your sympathy for them. Not having known them before, you offer your condolence for their loss, for one they have known. Even though you didn"t know them before, all of you are part of the decedents "family". You have so much to gain- meeting other family, even if you didn"t know they existed.....they didn"t know you before, either. I never knew my Godmother....she "divorced" herself from the family a few years after I was born, mid 40s. Decades later, my oldest sister "discovered" her in
AZ. My godmother knew about me, where I lived, even after I moved from where I grew up. I checked area papers, to see if she was a subscriber, but apparently she had other contacts, covering several decades. But she died a recluse, and I never met her. But she knew about me, what community activities I was involved in.
 
NEBeef,
"Takes more than blood to make someone family"... and "I'd spend my time with someone who was real family"...

All I can say to that is AMEN!
 
Lots of pros and cons expressed, some good arguments on both sides. If it were me, I wouldn't go simply because I would have no desire to dignify his life after he abandoned his family. But even if you were inclined to go, I think the deal-breaker would be the fact that his present family doesn't even know you and your dad exist. You guys showing up is going to be an unpleasant surprise, given the circumstances. Better just to let sleeping dogs lie.
 
(quoted from post at 20:41:04 05/24/12) I'd go. You can't change the past, and it will be interesting to see the other family members.

Could turn out bein a shock..... pay attention to the thickness of thier foreheads, how many fingers they have, and if thier ears, eyes, and noses seem to match and be aligned halfway decent..... May have ya wishin you'da picked up your wife a few hundred miles away :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7x1ETPkZsk
 

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