Another correction police encounter. ( old issue)

The correction police really makes me madd as HE!! at times. My second wife is from southern Ohio. Her Dad farmed a 50 acre farm and made a living good enough to send four kids to Ohio State to college without any school loans. HE raised 8-10 acres of tobacco and milked 20-25 cows by hand. I met the man several times way back then as his oldest son was in the Army with me. We had some training at Fort Campbell, KY. he took me home with him for a weekend a few times. My future FIL was one heck of a man. HE could put you on your knees with the grip he had. LOL He was a smaller fellow. Only about 5 foot 5 inches tall but he was a heck of a worker. Any way the point of this. He only ever owned one tractor. It was a 1947 JD "B". He traded a team of horses and a thousand dollars for it brand new with the implements he had. He had a plow, a disk, and a cultivator for it. That is all it every was used for. He still planted and mowed hay with horses into the late 1960s. He did not want to wear out his tractor. He passed on in 1980. The farm was rented and the equipment was just parked in the shed. Five years ago my MIL died. The family got together to divide/sell/settle the estate. My wife told them all she wanted was her Dad's tractor and implements. They could split the house and the land she just wanted the equipment. She could have gotten more money from a share of everything but she just wanted the tractor. Plus she stated that she was well provided for and some of her siblings where not as well off. She is the youngest of them. She wanted them to have a little better time of it. So we hauled everything home. It was not in real bad shape as it was not worn clear out but it had been sitting for 25 years.

I restored that tractor over a two year period. I took it back down to the castings. I replaced every single bearing, seal, and gasket on that tractor. It was put back in "new" condition. It was easy since her Dad had never modified anything. He was finical about keeping it all original. She said he always said if it had needed anything different JD would have done it at the factory. LOL. So I know that this tractor is factory original. I even just used JD paint as she did not want it to be better than it was new. We even have the original umbrella. Her Dad bought one frame/mount and two canvas tops. He put one up for when the first went bad. They found it when they cleaned the house out after her Mother died. So this tractor has never changed hands since it was new. It is her most valuable possession. She helped her Dad do the field work and he had her drive the tractor and he worked the horses. HE always took the hardest/dirtiest work for himself.

Two years ago we had a church tractor ride/tractor show as a fund raiser for some one for health cost. She wanted to drive her tractor. So we got it out for her and we all went. My wife has many health issues so it is rare for her to be able to go out and do this type of stuff. So she was really fired up and happy as a lark to be doing this. She says she can feel her Dad's hands holding her on the seat when she is on that tractor.

We had the tractors all lined up just before we where going to start the tractor ride. Some guy wearing a hat and jacket that had the Two Cylinder club all over it stopped and looked at her tractor. He spent ten minutes telling her that this and that was all wrong on the tractor. This and that was not original and such. He even had an issue with the umbrella. Said it was a Poor copy of an original. Darn funny since JD sold it with the tractor in 1947. She was so madd she about was in tears. I totally lost it. I ran over and told the guy to leave the show or I was going to beat him to death. I was not joking about that. The minister came over and heard the ruckus. He told the man to leave the church grounds as he was not welcomed any more. It really kind of ruined a good day. Plus she will not take her tractor to any shows/rides after that. She drives it around here and even works with it but she says it is for her not anyone else. She did plow and disk the sweet corn patch this year with it and the original implements.( they where twice as hard to restore)

So we now have our own rides several times each year. Just the family. With the kids having kids we are getting quite a few just that way. We usually make a big weekend out of it. The last several times I rent a big tent and we all cook out. Many of the Grand kids camp out all weekend next to "their" tractor. It is a blast. I feel sorry for the idiots that just worry about things being "correct".

PS I am getting requests from the Grand Daughters already for some JD equipment they can use with their horses the next get together. LOL. What do you guys think would work??? Remember they have riding horses. I am kind of at a loss as to what would work.

My Farmall Regular clearly has red paint on the gas tank and other spots, but when I get to restoring it will be painted grey. I want a grey regular and that is what it will be even if it is not "correct" for the year.

You are allowing someone else's opinion control your life. Why? Have fun with what you have and don't get torn up over the small stuff. His opinion is worthless if all you want to do is have fun with the tractor.

When our kids were young they had ponies and we used a single row walk behind cultivator for weeding the garden and a walk behind cole planter for planting seeds with them riding the ponies, as they out grow the ponies we found a older team of mules to work the garden. Added team type equipment. Had a great time with them growing up. Now the two adult boys have a international 140 and a cub that they do market gardening. Still enjoy working with them in the field or going to market with them. maybe we raised some kids that will spent some good times with their families?

Do what makes you and the boss happy..... EVERY ONE ELSE CAN GO TO THE DEVIL.....Sounds like good times for the family. God Bless.

What I have learned in life is there are always people that know everything,been everywhere and have all the answers.Plus they love to hear then selves talk.Instead of aruging with them any more I just walk away.That seems to pis them off more than anything.I also notice they do not have any friends.Hope you and your family enjoy the heck out of that John Deere.Sometimes its the memories that mean as much as the tractor.

DO NOT let this mans stupidity spoil your life and that of your wife. You know he is wrong, do your best to put it behind you and enjoy the tractor the best way you can, as a family, as a family heirloom with all its memories.This man is just plain ignorant.

The self proclaimed experts always seem to surface. Do these people realize how old these tractors are and most were not around when these machines were new and all they know is what they read or think they know. I try to avoid them whenever possible.

Years ago (when much younger) I remember getting all bent out of shape based on REACTING or caring about what some jerk did (like your story) until I matured and understood that was giving them a power over me, but once you learn and master that life is sooooooooooooo much easier and more relaxed and less stressful. You can ONLY control what you do NOT OTHERS so screw them, just do whats right for you and God and your family and heck with other jerks lol wooooooooo hoooooooo

A happy, peaceful and contented Ol John T

Don't think a riding horse will pull anything without a lot of training but there are lots of horse games that they could compete in. Your wife sure dounds like a wonderfull person,hope she gets better.

First these are freak'ing tractors, they were made to work, get dirty and undergo some changes or modifications over their working life-WHY? things change, the equipment you run, changes to you operation or even with the purchase of additional equipment the role a specific tractor performs in your operation may change. They were made to work and give you the ability to keep your bills paid and feed your family that in its' self is a lot of their history. Example at the golf course we had two Ford tractors a 231 and a 2110, they were basically the same tractor except for paint scheme and tires, one was set up with two remotes to run a snow plow the other had a bracket bolted on the fender to hold the control for the spray rig. I made another spray rig bracket and drilled a holes in the right fender to mount the bracket, changed the same tractor over to the same tire and rim combination as the new one, the high flotation tires were easier on the turf, call the correct police and have me arrested. Second the two cylinder club is missing an opportunity, many of the car clubs have refined survivor or original divisions. If they researched and implemented these divisions or ratings they might actually help preserve older original tractors so generations to come can see touch and feel what they were like when they came rolled out of Moline (or Hillsdale or West Allis or Racine). I almost think they don't do that because it weakens their ability to be the "Experts" and limits the amount of overpriced "correct" parts and accessories they can SELL you.

Second isn't a little arrogant to walk up to someone who has known the tractor for 20,30 or 60 years and start telling them about it? Also remember on the postwar stuff demand was high, the companies could sell anything they made so maybe "correctness" was compromised when they were built all those tears ago. Also a farmer may of ordered a tractor "non-typical" meaning it isn't "correct" but maybe because the original owner asked for and paid for something different or the dealer did some parts swapping to close a sale on a unit.

we show jd-mm and oliver abd the only correct polixe we meet are jd owners--when you pin them down what they really mean is they got screwed by what they paid on parts and think evryone should be as dumb as they are --always like to point out what they could have got the parts for

I paint with whatever paint I have around, and if that means painting an old tractor pink or purple, so be it. To me, it covers rust, and adds a few more years protection to it. If anyone ever told me that color is wrong, or that shouldn't be like that, guess what? If it works well enough for me, who cares what they think. My tractors were born to work, no look like parade queens.

The ones that blow the loudest don't always know the most. I try to remember that and at least keep quiet part of the time. Mother always said you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. It's just as easy to pick out a few good features about a tractor and comment about those.

Wisdom comes with age. Sometimes age comes alone.

jdseller your fatherinlaw sounded a lot like my grandpa, he worked a few acres veggies and a small dairy herd besides working a fulltime job for the electric co. he only had 1 tractor he got used from a neighbor it was a jd h we still have it in its original form and to my knowledge it's still the way it was from the factory minus a jd paint job we did about 15yrs ago, and i think at some point the flywheel was painted 1/2 green and 1/2 yellow. i'm sure if i brought it to a show or parade the "correct police" would throw a fit. which wouldn't bother me the least bit because my grandpa taught me alot about hardwork and good ethics. we're all at a show or parade for mainly 1 thing and that's the love for tractors and equipment whether they're correct or not isn't why we went to the event.

Tell her to not let it bother her. There are a lot of big mouth idiots out there who think that they know all but, don't have a clue. I am down to one JD because of the same thing that larryh said although those same people love to pick my Hart-Parr, Olivers ect apart. Just ask them where there tractor is. It's probably one someone else did most of the work on and it was professionally painted. Instead of just having a yellow fan like mine, tell them their whole tractor has an incorrect paint job. Not one of them came from the factory with that kind of paint or that shiny. Tell her to take it out and show it off. She has something to be proud of.

Iv'e got my dad's 1959 John Deere 739DES. Any body comments on it, I just tell for $15,000.00 they can buy it and do what they want with it. Usually shuts em up!!

Iv'e got my dad's 1959 John Deere 730DES. Any body comments on it, I just tell em for $15,000.00 they can buy it and do what they want with it. Usually shuts em up!!

Well said.

I've been to shows where the OP starts berating a tractor, and they don't realize who is watching/listening. I've seen several youngsters turned off of the hobby just because some jerk doesn't think somebody's machine isn't "original" enough.
Most of the OP are fooling themselves, anyway - there aren't many "original" tractors out there - somewhere along the line they've been "farmerized" or had something replaced.
It ain't about being "original" it's about building YOUR tractor, and taking it to display, and show off your handywork. Some guy tearing it down just hurts the whole thing.

When you pay for the paint and the tractor, you can tell me what color to use. Dave

Yep ,seen that sort of mentality alot! Why do people seem to get their jollys at downgrading other peoples stuff? I had one guy give me a line about my DC Case at the show one time.I had 2 grade 8 bolts in the drawbar to keep it from swinging.Heard a long speech about how Case never used grade 8 bolts on any tractors.Who Cares???? Get a life people, If you are happy with your tractor like it is,well good for you! Dont let some smart minded person ruin your day!

JDSeller, your situation reminds me of the time that one of the local bass fishing champions was giving my catfishing buddy a hard time about fishing for "trash fish". He asked him if he ever fished for a real fish like large-mouth bass.

My friend replied that he didn't much like bass fishing, but his 12 year-old son was really good at catching little bass, sometimes a couple of dozen at a time out of the small creeks around area.

The Champ just had to ask, "What in the world does he want to catch them for, if they ain't big enough for eating!". "Oh, we don't eat them. He sells 'em to me to use on my trotlines", my friend replied. "Yessir, you take and cut them little bass in a couple of pieces and them ole catfish are as crazy about them as you are!"

It is a true story and well-demonstrates that one man's trash is another man's treasure - and vice-versa!

I was at a show a few years ago with 8 tractors. I was on a JD A with an IH hat. Some guy comes by and says "you have the wrong hat on" and I said to him "no, wrong tractor, right hat. I thought the idiot was going to come and try to pull me off the tractor. I owned the tractor and hat, I don't know what his problem was. I think some people get to nuts about it, i'm in it to have fun and I don't care what tractor you have I worry about mine and mine only.

Gets me when you have a nice painted up tractor and the guys will come up and lean on it or take their hand and rub over the paint like they're trying to rub it off. Bet if you did that on their new pickup they would have a fit.

Tell your wife to drive that tractor with pride. Tell the so called experts to kiss her a$$. Experts don't always know what they are talking about.

There was a guy here in Texas. Took a Studebaker lark and what was left of a Studebaker pickup. Put the two together. Looked like a factory build when he got through. Went to a show with it.Two Studebaker experts told him. that it was the long lost prototype for the Lark pickup

Thanks for the thought. She is a diabetic with all the problems that go with it. She is starting to have heart problems because of her high triglyceride levels. There is only so much that can be done. So we just live the best we can, while we can.

I have the same problem with a 43 jd b been in my family since 45 always told the wheels aren"t correct it"s got 38 inch pressed steel everyone thinks it shoulda had spoked wheels cuz of the war there"s other issues as well but look in the parts book those wheels were an option not to mention my grandfather drove this tractor home when it was bought so he knows what"s been changed on it which was pretty much nothing as they are tighter than bark on a tree tractor got parked in the 70s because the carb needed a float and they had another running tractor so why spend the money pretty obviose them types of people wouldn"t splurge for different rims or anything of the like

I can only echo what others have said. I can imagine what a laugh I would have if someone started telling me what was wrong with my tractor! YOU MEAN MY DECALS ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE!!!?? OH NO!!!!

Those who talk, don't know.
Those who know, don't talk.
In many cases, at least.

I see a lot of called EXPO tractors that aren't close, but if it makes someone happy to say it, then that's good enough. The absolute lasyt thing we want to do is to discourage anyone, especially our younger guys, from preserving the old stuff. Since you know the history of this one I'm sure it is as near original as any 65 year old machine could be. Tell her to run it and enjoy it. I am lucky enough to have two family tractors and I feel Dad's, Grandpa's, & Uncle Tommy's hands on the wheel whenever I run them. They are part of what I am, my history so to speak. The other thought is that if you analyze the improvements in farm machinery over the years you soon realize that farmers are probably the greatest class of inventors in the history of the world. If there was an easier, more efficient, cheaper way to do anything they found it and changed their machinery accordingly. Many of the features on new machines were concieved by farmers, not machine builders. No wonder so many of our older tractors have been altered over the years. Just my thoughts and I'm stickin' to 'em.

Kind of a differen't story but some years ago we went to a benefit pull for a guy who's health problems were partially liked to the fact that he was a drunk but we knew him so we went to help the cause, at the time he had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel but his main concern was to run around the pull and raise heck about the tractors he deemed didn't fit in the classes they were entered in, I haven't had much time for him since

When someone points out a flaw or incorrect part in any of my work, I just tell them, "I know all that's wrong with this thing, you don't have to point it out to me."

I have never shown a tractor and maybe never will. But If I do their will be a sign on it that says. Negative comments $ 10.00 first minuate minimum, $ 5.00 each additional minuate, Pay as you go. compliments are free.

Yeah sure is funny how much some people "know" sometimes, myself included sometimes I guess. I had a guy stop at our local show and look at my demonstrator C. He tried telling me how it wasn't really a demonstrator for whatever reason. I mentioned to him how grandpa had owned it since the early fifties (2nd owner and he knew the first) and how I hadn't done the best job on it and there were places where the grease didn't get cleaned off and it was still white under it. Also how the serial numbers fell well within the accepted range of demonstrators. It got kinda quiet then and shortened the conversation.
Another good example of a know it all was listening to one talk and said he had a chance to buy an 856 but didn't know why anyone would when they could buy the newer model and 806 for less! HUH I didn't even bother to correct him since I didn't want him talking to me any more than I could avoid. I just hope I don't come across that way to people!

Some people feel the rain and other people just get wet. I've had a couple run ins with the cp. There're the ones that just get wet. Go to the shows and drive your tractor and tell the cp to pedel their crap somewhere else. Best of luck to you and yours.

If you feel like showing your tractor come to the American Thresherman Association show in Pinckneyville Il. We want to have 150 JD B tractors. We dont care if they are original or modified, why have a tractor if you can't use it? Show tractors are cool, but working tractors kick their a** every day in my book! They were designrd to WORK! I like original tractors, but nothin beats a tractor that aint afraid to get dirty and pull a load!

do you all know what an expert is? An ex is a unknown, a pert is a drip under pressure. have seen many over the years.

Thats just a real shame. I just hope your wife doesnt feel like all of us deere guys are tractor nazis. Its a shame to have a great tractor like that, that has been in your family that your so proud of and others would love to see and here the story of it ruined by one guy who is probably a self proclaimed expert. If he really knew what he was talkin about then he woulda known the difference in original and not original. I catch grief with my 4020 all the time because I needed the two side shields after I repainted it and i found a used set that someone had put the decals on two low. Guys tell me I should change them there not right and i always tell them that it doesnt hurt how the tractor operates so why spend the time and money. Im glad your wife still gets enjoyment out of something she has every rite to be so proud of. What a great thing it sounds like your family is doing with there own tradition of a tractor ride and gathering. Enjoy it be proud of it and I hope at some point your wife will once again sgare a wonderful piece of her life with the rest of us good tractor lovers.

Maybe 15 years after I moved to this area I was talking to some neighbors, learning about a local big shot. I said I don"t know him, what is he like, look like, etc. Best response I got was........."if you see him in a group of people, he"ll be the one doing the talking".

He has won then, I would have said "P... Off". You get smart ars.. everywhere.
The important thing is, you know the story.

Get the Rhett Butler approach.

Do whatever you like! We are keeping our Regular rusty - just because we love it like that. We added PTO extension and right hand brake and right rear foot-brake. I don't think any of these were factory for a Regular, but we don't care... it is our tractor, and we like it like that.

Your Regular should actually be grey though. We even have an F20 that is grey because it was made in early '36... and apparently they went to red in latter '36. From what I understand, old Regulars were often painted red by folks - just to make them look like the newer F20's.

You CAN point things out, but you don't have to be rude about it.

Conversely, you CAN accept constructive criticism and be gracious about it.

My 43 B has pressed steel wheels on it also. As far as I can tell its all original down to the Generator. I would never run another persons tractor down and cant understand why anyone would. If they ask about something, thats differnt

It is to bad that people cannot keep their thoughts to themselves about tractors being " correct " or not. I know of a young guy that had a nice old, working antique tractor that he used as a second tractor on his farm,at a show when mister Correct walked up and started finding falt with many things on it. I felt real bad for the young farmer , as the tractor had updates on it to make it more usefull on his farm. But , no , the C P kept on bitching about everything . finally he was asked where was his tractor ? He replied , Oh I never show my tractors, to much work ! That was the end of his complaining for that day ! Found out latter that he had a few dozen tractors , but not one was restored , let alone even painted correctly. PEOPLE !!!. clint

There is no way on God's green earth I would ever walk up to someone and do something like that guy did!
I read a quote the other day, and if I remembered where I would give credit where credit was due.
"Those that know the least, know the loudest."
Enjoy the tractor and your family.

To walk up to somebody and criticize a tractor they have on display is like criticizing a man's house or his work. Whatever your opinion is about it, you don't do it. You may not like what they have or what they have done, but it is extremely rude to start ragging on somebody's stuff. Behavior like that is a definite sign of a severe lack of home training. Chances are, if they show their behind about a tractor at a show, they are obnoxious in about any setting they find themselves.