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3000 Ford Diesel and N.H. 276 Square Baler

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Hello all. I am thinking about buying a New Holland 276 square baler and am wondering if my Ford 3000 Diesel will handle it. Just wanted to hear what your experiences are. Thanks.
 
Neighbor runs a 276. He has a 50hp new JD but it doesnt run it that great. We usually run it with my 1655 (70hp) or the Massey 1080 (80hp)

I think it would run it if the hay wasnt real thick and you went nice and slow. BUT, it would probably be easier with a bigger tractor. The baler will be handling the tractor, I kind of like it the other way around.
 
I don't know the size of the 3000 for sure but I ran a 268 NH and later a 336 JD on a MF 65 diesel, about 54 hp handled it fine.
 
here is my rule of thumb, 20hp to run the baler, 20hp to lug the baler and 20hp to lug a wagon behind the baler, which you do not say if you plan to do. All on flat land. Add 20 more hp for any slopes as gravity increases those loads considerably.
 
it seems to me that the questions are:

Flat or hilly ground?

and

dropping bales on the ground or pulling the loaded wagon at the same time?

I pulled a NH69? baler for half a summer without the wagon attached with a Ford 3600 and it was no problem. Attach the wagon and I would have wanted more tractor.
 
I have a 67 baler which probably takes a little less to run, and I run it with a Massey 35 or a Farmall H, pulling a wagon, up and down some hills. It is slow but it works fine.
Zach
 
We ran a 273 for years with a few different 60hp tractors and they handled it fine, never a lack of power, mainly because you can only go about 4mph. Running a 315 now with a thrower, and it will work it hard going 4 mph uphill with 1/2 load or more. It will run it on flat ground at close to 7mph without a problem. If you figure you have the traction, you can always gear down for the hills.
 
Neighbor has one he baled many 1,000's of bales with using a John Deere 60 to pull the baler and an 8x16 wagon behind. No problems at all. I'd think your Ford would be in that same hp range. I wouldn't hesitate to put that combination to work.
 
My Grandpa bought a 276 new, pulled it and a flat rack (up to 120 bales) with a Super H Farmall for years. Not fast, but got the job done. He thought his Ford 7000 would waste fuel doing the same job, being so much bigger. Later on, we used the 7000 to bale. That would work the baler to its limit.
The only issue I see is if you plan on pulling a wagon behind and have significant hills. Then you might be short on weight/traction.
 
I had a JD 14 I think. Put out the regular 65# sq. bale. Just for grins one day I hooked it to my Ford 2000 4 cyl Diesel. Worked just fine except I didn't have an overrun clutch on the PTO shaft so you had to watch where you were going. Normally I pulled it with my '65 3000D with live PTO which did just fine. These tractors are around 30-35 PTO hp.

Mark
 
I baled a lot of hay with a JD 420 tractor (28 HP, IIRC), and a similar size Ford baler. No wagon, flat ground.
 
We"ve run an Oliver 60-t and a NH 268 with a Farmall 200, and a JD B. Both also pulled wagons behind, on some uneven ground. Only a few times did we have trouble with the tractor being pushed around by the baler. Now run with a MF 180, just plays with baler, and a full wagon load. MF is in the 60hp class. Deere and Farmall were far less than that.
 
Should be fine, iv run my JD 346 baler on my ford 1720 , 27hp, compact tractor, with the thrower on the baler off, and it ran it fine. A baler dosent need alot of hp,
 
Yes sir ree....the flywheel does the work. Only purpose of the engine is to spin the flywheel....just like on a Johnny popper.

On my 2000 transmission driven PTO, the flywheel on the baler is what kept the tractor moving. It kept pressure on the tranny gears and you couldn't get it out of gear so that you could stop it. Had to wait for it to wind down first. The baler didn't have an overrun clutch like others I have had so it was "direct drive".

Mark
 
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