My sister in laws well just went dry, in 12 years. she said she never had a problem with it. She ordered water and the guy told het it's because were so dry right now. I don't buy that . My well in 230 deep, and I can't believe were drinking rain water. I always thought it was under ground water springs or lakes ect. Any ideas.
- Thread starter JayinNY
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- Camdenton Missouri
Well water does in fact come from rain which over years filters down into the ground and is filtered by the rock etc. So yep if you have had dry years for the past few years a well can dry up but it can also be because other people may be tapped into the same water table as that well and so many people pump the water out and you end up with a dry well. In my area there is many springs that are called wet springs because they only flow a short time after a rain and then only flow for a couple weeks after the rain.
TomH in PA
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It would be helpful to know what the water level was in her well over the past few years. Could've been dropping for a long time until it finally got below her pump. Without knowing that you can only guess.
Depends on how good a well it was to start with. Water table goes down when things as been dry. Rain is where well water comes from in NY. Just not an immediate effect. I've seen many wells go dry or lose capacity during dry periods.
I also wondering - did her well actually go dry -or is her pump taking water out faster then it's coming in and running it dry. Not the same thing. She might of had a 40 GPM well that is now only 5-10 GPM.
I also wondering - did her well actually go dry -or is her pump taking water out faster then it's coming in and running it dry. Not the same thing. She might of had a 40 GPM well that is now only 5-10 GPM.
My well (about 80 years old Im told) is only 18 feet deep and 6 ft in diameter with hand laid (no mortar) sandstone walls and if you wait 30 to 60 minutes after a big rain and look down inside you see and hear water trickling in.
When all 3 kids were at home and teenagers in August when it got real dry we would run out and the water man came and dumped 2000 gallons in it which got us by as it rained in September. Since the kids have all left we dont run out anymore.
HOWEVER THATS A SHALLOW SURFACE DRAINAGE WELL NOT A 100 TO 200 FEET DRILLED WELL
Is your sisters a shallow surface well or a deep drilled?? If its like mine I tend to believe what she was told but if its a 200 feet drilled well?????????
PS I NEVER had mine tested, feared the county would ban it and put us all in jail, but the old man who lived on the farm before lived a long life and us and our 3 kids are all healthy with no kidney or kidney stone or any health problems..
John T
When all 3 kids were at home and teenagers in August when it got real dry we would run out and the water man came and dumped 2000 gallons in it which got us by as it rained in September. Since the kids have all left we dont run out anymore.
HOWEVER THATS A SHALLOW SURFACE DRAINAGE WELL NOT A 100 TO 200 FEET DRILLED WELL
Is your sisters a shallow surface well or a deep drilled?? If its like mine I tend to believe what she was told but if its a 200 feet drilled well?????????
PS I NEVER had mine tested, feared the county would ban it and put us all in jail, but the old man who lived on the farm before lived a long life and us and our 3 kids are all healthy with no kidney or kidney stone or any health problems..
John T
Bob Bancroft
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- Aurora NY
Shallow or deep well? We haven't had any trouble with any of ours yet, but it is drier for this time of year than I've ever seen it.
Whatever is down there storing water changes every little ways too. No gravel here. I know a fellow up closer to Lake Ontario who has basically his own aquifer.
Whatever is down there storing water changes every little ways too. No gravel here. I know a fellow up closer to Lake Ontario who has basically his own aquifer.
Cliff Nelson
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How far down is the pump compared to well depth. Around here we have a lot of wells 150-200 feet deep where the water is pushed up by artesian pressure to where the pump is only 40 feet deep. If this is the case she may just need more pipe for the pump. The town I live in has 2 fully artesian wells with no pump at all. The excess water runs down the storm sewer continuously.
MarkB_MI
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- Motown USA
All water comes from somewhere. If the water in her well isn't being replenished from rain and snow melt, it is "fossil" water left during the last ice age. She had better hope it ISN'T fossil water, because it ain't coming back if it is.
buickanddeere
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Location? Sounds like a dry area if there is a water man to order water from.
Brian G. NY
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I don't buy that either!
We had very little moisture here in New York this past winter and so far this spring.
However last year was one of the wettest on record and we got one helluva lot of rain last August when there was major flooding throughout the state.
If it is a driven well of any serious depth, it's static water level should not normally be affected a great deal by periods of dry weather.
That's just MHO based on my own experiences with driven wells.
We had very little moisture here in New York this past winter and so far this spring.
However last year was one of the wettest on record and we got one helluva lot of rain last August when there was major flooding throughout the state.
If it is a driven well of any serious depth, it's static water level should not normally be affected a great deal by periods of dry weather.
That's just MHO based on my own experiences with driven wells.
Brian G. NY
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Make that drilled well, not driven well.
oldironman
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I don't think that a well that deep would go dry if it hasn't in the last few years. Two things to check first, 1 check the back of the toilet for a leaking flout valve 2 if that is OK then check and see if the line coming in has a leak. After drilling wells and doing pump work for twenty five years those are the most commen things that can cause a well to go dry.
Tony in Mass.
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How much snow you had this year? How much rain? I know all the know it alls say the water been there since the dinosaurs- so what? gone now right? Go west of the Missouri and people don't depend on a well less than 1000 feet, and even those don't always last at those depths. Wait till they frack for gas, you won't want what you do get out of the ground. What do they say? 43 states in moderate to extreme drought? going to be an interesting summer for all of us.
rd 2N in mo
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FYI
try the USGS web site for water sources for New York.
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/rt
might show you what is happening to the streams and the watertable.
try the USGS web site for water sources for New York.
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/rt
might show you what is happening to the streams and the watertable.
Anonymous-0
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ask around, see if any of her neighbors are haveing well trouble. How much iron is in the water? iron and other deposits well plug off a well and stop water from entering the well.
jay, I can't speak for y'all up there in New York, But here in Texas where I am, at and around my area deep wells run in the 500 to 600 ft deep range. Most any well shallower than that had pump issues or went dry for a while or hasn't come back at all!
Check around with local well and pump companies who drill and service well and see what the average in the area is and if going deeper is a real solution. It may be time to put in a back up rain water collection system, If y'all have a large house or barn/shop 2500+ sq ft will capture about 5000 gallons of water on a 1 in rain. Put in about 40,000 gallons of storage and one can be just about water independent even in a Drought. And we Know What We are Talking About Here in Texas!
I have a Windmill here at the house with a 6000 gal storage tank, I had to buy water for 4 months from just before Christmas to Mid-March. My loads cost $100 for 2000 gal of water. So if I was in a position to have a larger storage built to capture rain water it would only take about $1000 to half fill the structure to get started and get a collection system going.
Anyway, check around, do your homework, follow the best advice for your area! Hope this helps!
Later,
John A.
Check around with local well and pump companies who drill and service well and see what the average in the area is and if going deeper is a real solution. It may be time to put in a back up rain water collection system, If y'all have a large house or barn/shop 2500+ sq ft will capture about 5000 gallons of water on a 1 in rain. Put in about 40,000 gallons of storage and one can be just about water independent even in a Drought. And we Know What We are Talking About Here in Texas!
I have a Windmill here at the house with a 6000 gal storage tank, I had to buy water for 4 months from just before Christmas to Mid-March. My loads cost $100 for 2000 gal of water. So if I was in a position to have a larger storage built to capture rain water it would only take about $1000 to half fill the structure to get started and get a collection system going.
Anyway, check around, do your homework, follow the best advice for your area! Hope this helps!
Later,
John A.
Just about all ground water is from rain, even if you have a stream or pond nearby they got there water from rain. every well, depending on the porosity of the soil or cracks in the bedrock, and the static groundwater level, will produce its own GPM. If any one of these characteristics change the GPM will change.It may go up or down. 15 GPM is considered a good producing well. If the well produces less than that and you are drawing more than it can supply you will run dry. To counteract this low flow a submersible pump can be placed much lower than the static water level in the well and the volume of water above it should be more than the capacity of your tank
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